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"My Stars And Garters."

meets with the brother , he will show it him , as he intend : ; to use aud wear it with the levels so annoying to " N . W . " Having replied thus far to " N . W . " , a few words of explanation are due to yon , Sir . Who our brother is I will communicate in a jjrivate note , as he does not care to have his name before the world as one of a lodge

where such as "N . W . " are allowed to mingle . For " N . W . ' s" happiness and comfort of mind , I will add my name and address in full ; it will save him much time and , perhaps , myself some annoyance from inquiries . I am , dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , WILLIAM T . JONES ,

Rose Croix , Royal Arch , and Mark Master . Montague-place , N . W ., October 6 , 1862 . _ P . S —Perhaps "N . W . " will kindly send the brother his measurement of "like , " as he never met with the quantity quoted by "N . W . " much ; the idea is somewhat fishy .

[ As Bro . Jones has signed his name to the above , we have inserted it , only leaving out the initials of a brother whom he supposes to have written the letter complained of , he being altogether in error as to the writer—the initials being nothing like those he gives . We were not

aware of the Lodge to which allusion was made , but if the Master and members , including Bro . Jones , choose to allow a brother to be present , wearing levels , when they know he cannot be a legally-installed Master ( without he has been so appointed by the M . W . G . M . in a new warrant ) , they must not be surprised if they find themselves cited before the Board of General Purposes , their warrant suspended , aud themselves deprived of their

Masonic privileges , until the opinion of Grand Lodge be taken on the matter . As regards the coupling the brother ' s name with that of the Grand Officers , and his replying thereto , it is a pure matter of taste , with which we have little to do , it only being an exemplification of the old . fable , " how we apples swim . " It is no sign of

tho true gentleman , of which so much is stated , to ape that , he is not legally entitled to by the laws regulating the society to which he belongs ; and as to the threat of pulling noses , we would remind Bro . Jones that two can play at the same game , to say nothing of the legality and its consequences to the one who commits the first

assault . As respects the number of members of the Royal Order of Scotland , resident in London , Bro . Jones is decidedly wrong , we having the honor of the acquaintance of more than he states , whose names and addresses we can at any time favour him with—three of them being members of the same Lodge in Glasgow to which the Editor of this MAGAZINE has boon affiliated . —Ed . F . M . and M . M . l

TO TJ ! F . EDITOK OE THE EUEE 1 TASONS 1 TAGAZINE AND T . IASOJriC 1 TIEEOS . DEAN . SIR AXD BROTHER . —A correspondent of yours who heads his letter with "My Stars and Garters , " aud who has not the manliness to put his name to a statement of an untruth , questions the right of a brother I know personally , and for whom I have a high respect . I can answer for his having a perfect right to wear the jewels of the various Orders of which your correspondent " has never heard , " and several others he does not wear .

"My Stars And Garters."

Touching the "jumping up , " to return thanks , our brother ' s name was coupled by the Master with the toast , and therefore he was obliged to "jump up , " doubtless to your correspondent ' s envy . Now I ask you , who is your correspondent , " Who is he ? " that writes this ungentlemanly and unmasonic letter , and is ashamed ( and very properltoo ) to sihis name .

y gn Let him do so iu the next number , and I have no doubt that I can furnish him with all the information ho requires . Fraternally yours , JOHN MOTT THEARLE , P . M . 82 , P . G . D . Herts , 18 ' . G . B . B . Grand Conclave .

[ Bro . John Mott Thearle , as an English Mason and a Past Master , must know that no brother has a right to wear the jewels of the high degrees whether taken iu England or Scotland , in a Craft Lodge . If the Master of tho lodge had done his duty , he would have refused to allow the brother to enter the lodge until he had divested himself of all but the proper clothing of a Craft Mason .

—Ed . F . M . ] TO THE EDITOE OE THE EREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC ItlREOR . SIR AND BROTHER , —Who is the author of the absurd letter with the above absurd title ? Who is he ? Is he ashamed to sign his own name , or does he expect any gentlemau to answer an anonymous communication ? I

happen to know the brother to whom he alludes , and that he his entitled to all the degrees of which the writer appears to be so jealous , and I am quite convinced that it is beneath his notice to recognise an anonymous correspondent . I am , Sir , faithfully and fraternally yours , R . BRUCE WALKER , K . T . 18 ° . 10 , Melbourne Grove , West Brompton .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE EHEEMASON 8 HAGAZISE AND MASONIC MIEKOE . DEAR SIR ASD BROTHER , —The young affluent should be advised , iu the most fraternal manner , to wear in English lodges only such decorations as belong to English Craft Masonry . "N . W . " may rest perfectly assured that the unwarrantable assumption of Grand Lodge official rank in our

young brother is solely from inexperience ; a phrenologist would , it is predicted , find a large bump towards the upper part of our juvenile ' s head in the rear thereof . Depend upon it , frequent visiting will reduce a great deal of the vanity that appears to predominate . Not being an installed Master of a Craft Lodge , he has no riht to wear the levels on his apron ; nor should he

g consider himself either a Grand Officer or even a Provincial Grand Officer out of the Province in which he has been appointed—for he takes with him no rank , although he be permitted to wear the clothing . —( Art . 2 —p . 50 , Book of Constitutions ) . Yours fraternally . October 5 , 1862 . E . E . X .

Who Have The Right Of Ballot?

WHO HAVE THE RIGHT OF BALLOT ?

TO THE EDITOE OE THE EEEEIIASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MtllEOK . SIB , BROTHER . —A question has arisen whether three members can hold a lodge aud ballot for the admission of candidates for initiation or joining . I have always held five to be' essential , the brief law of our lectures being " Three rule a lodge , five hold a lodge , seven make a perfect lod . " The Book of Constitutions does not

dege clare any law on the point . Has any decision been given by the Board of General Purposes on this important point ? Because if three are sufficient , why not two or even one ?—J . H . [ We hold a ballot by less than a perfect lodge to be illegal . —ED . ]

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THE TEACHINGS OF MASONRY. Article 1
MONUMENT TO AN OCTOGENERIAN BROTHER. Article 3
GOTHIC STREET ARCHITECTURE. Article 4
THE FATE OF THE EXHIBITION BUILDING. Article 5
THE ALPS IN THE GLACIAL ERA. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
EXTRACTS FROM THE MINUTE BOOKS OF THE ST. PAUL'S LODGE. BIRMINGHAM. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
"MY STARS AND GARTERS." Article 13
WHO HAVE THE RIGHT OF BALLOT? Article 14
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 15
PROVINCIAL . Article 15
LANCASHIRE (WEST). Article 16
SCOTLAND. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
Poetry. Article 17
LOW TWELVE. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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"My Stars And Garters."

meets with the brother , he will show it him , as he intend : ; to use aud wear it with the levels so annoying to " N . W . " Having replied thus far to " N . W . " , a few words of explanation are due to yon , Sir . Who our brother is I will communicate in a jjrivate note , as he does not care to have his name before the world as one of a lodge

where such as "N . W . " are allowed to mingle . For " N . W . ' s" happiness and comfort of mind , I will add my name and address in full ; it will save him much time and , perhaps , myself some annoyance from inquiries . I am , dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , WILLIAM T . JONES ,

Rose Croix , Royal Arch , and Mark Master . Montague-place , N . W ., October 6 , 1862 . _ P . S —Perhaps "N . W . " will kindly send the brother his measurement of "like , " as he never met with the quantity quoted by "N . W . " much ; the idea is somewhat fishy .

[ As Bro . Jones has signed his name to the above , we have inserted it , only leaving out the initials of a brother whom he supposes to have written the letter complained of , he being altogether in error as to the writer—the initials being nothing like those he gives . We were not

aware of the Lodge to which allusion was made , but if the Master and members , including Bro . Jones , choose to allow a brother to be present , wearing levels , when they know he cannot be a legally-installed Master ( without he has been so appointed by the M . W . G . M . in a new warrant ) , they must not be surprised if they find themselves cited before the Board of General Purposes , their warrant suspended , aud themselves deprived of their

Masonic privileges , until the opinion of Grand Lodge be taken on the matter . As regards the coupling the brother ' s name with that of the Grand Officers , and his replying thereto , it is a pure matter of taste , with which we have little to do , it only being an exemplification of the old . fable , " how we apples swim . " It is no sign of

tho true gentleman , of which so much is stated , to ape that , he is not legally entitled to by the laws regulating the society to which he belongs ; and as to the threat of pulling noses , we would remind Bro . Jones that two can play at the same game , to say nothing of the legality and its consequences to the one who commits the first

assault . As respects the number of members of the Royal Order of Scotland , resident in London , Bro . Jones is decidedly wrong , we having the honor of the acquaintance of more than he states , whose names and addresses we can at any time favour him with—three of them being members of the same Lodge in Glasgow to which the Editor of this MAGAZINE has boon affiliated . —Ed . F . M . and M . M . l

TO TJ ! F . EDITOK OE THE EUEE 1 TASONS 1 TAGAZINE AND T . IASOJriC 1 TIEEOS . DEAN . SIR AXD BROTHER . —A correspondent of yours who heads his letter with "My Stars and Garters , " aud who has not the manliness to put his name to a statement of an untruth , questions the right of a brother I know personally , and for whom I have a high respect . I can answer for his having a perfect right to wear the jewels of the various Orders of which your correspondent " has never heard , " and several others he does not wear .

"My Stars And Garters."

Touching the "jumping up , " to return thanks , our brother ' s name was coupled by the Master with the toast , and therefore he was obliged to "jump up , " doubtless to your correspondent ' s envy . Now I ask you , who is your correspondent , " Who is he ? " that writes this ungentlemanly and unmasonic letter , and is ashamed ( and very properltoo ) to sihis name .

y gn Let him do so iu the next number , and I have no doubt that I can furnish him with all the information ho requires . Fraternally yours , JOHN MOTT THEARLE , P . M . 82 , P . G . D . Herts , 18 ' . G . B . B . Grand Conclave .

[ Bro . John Mott Thearle , as an English Mason and a Past Master , must know that no brother has a right to wear the jewels of the high degrees whether taken iu England or Scotland , in a Craft Lodge . If the Master of tho lodge had done his duty , he would have refused to allow the brother to enter the lodge until he had divested himself of all but the proper clothing of a Craft Mason .

—Ed . F . M . ] TO THE EDITOE OE THE EREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC ItlREOR . SIR AND BROTHER , —Who is the author of the absurd letter with the above absurd title ? Who is he ? Is he ashamed to sign his own name , or does he expect any gentlemau to answer an anonymous communication ? I

happen to know the brother to whom he alludes , and that he his entitled to all the degrees of which the writer appears to be so jealous , and I am quite convinced that it is beneath his notice to recognise an anonymous correspondent . I am , Sir , faithfully and fraternally yours , R . BRUCE WALKER , K . T . 18 ° . 10 , Melbourne Grove , West Brompton .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE EHEEMASON 8 HAGAZISE AND MASONIC MIEKOE . DEAR SIR ASD BROTHER , —The young affluent should be advised , iu the most fraternal manner , to wear in English lodges only such decorations as belong to English Craft Masonry . "N . W . " may rest perfectly assured that the unwarrantable assumption of Grand Lodge official rank in our

young brother is solely from inexperience ; a phrenologist would , it is predicted , find a large bump towards the upper part of our juvenile ' s head in the rear thereof . Depend upon it , frequent visiting will reduce a great deal of the vanity that appears to predominate . Not being an installed Master of a Craft Lodge , he has no riht to wear the levels on his apron ; nor should he

g consider himself either a Grand Officer or even a Provincial Grand Officer out of the Province in which he has been appointed—for he takes with him no rank , although he be permitted to wear the clothing . —( Art . 2 —p . 50 , Book of Constitutions ) . Yours fraternally . October 5 , 1862 . E . E . X .

Who Have The Right Of Ballot?

WHO HAVE THE RIGHT OF BALLOT ?

TO THE EDITOE OE THE EEEEIIASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MtllEOK . SIB , BROTHER . —A question has arisen whether three members can hold a lodge aud ballot for the admission of candidates for initiation or joining . I have always held five to be' essential , the brief law of our lectures being " Three rule a lodge , five hold a lodge , seven make a perfect lod . " The Book of Constitutions does not

dege clare any law on the point . Has any decision been given by the Board of General Purposes on this important point ? Because if three are sufficient , why not two or even one ?—J . H . [ We hold a ballot by less than a perfect lodge to be illegal . —ED . ]

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