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of even the third degree . " Now the opinion of the brother who writes this is worthy of the highest consideration , yet I cannot exactly admit what he says , for Eule xih . of " General Regulations" proceeds -. — "Apprentices must be admitted If asters and Pell ow Craft only here , * unless by a dispensation . " This I

have considered refers to the degrees of Master and FelloAV Craft ; and it appears to me there is a very careful and studied reticence as to this matter throughout the whole work , the above quotation being almost an accident . However , as by Eule iii . we perceive that lodges then had " by-laws , " aud " all their

transactions that are proper to be written , " perhaps something might be got from them if any of that age in or about London are still . extant . As to the proceedings of the lodge , we are told they " will be best understood by attending it . " Altogether I think that our three degrees had , in 1723 , been already invented and

worked ; only the policy pursued by Desaguliers , Anderson , and Co ., caused them to throw an air of mystery and concealment over the whole'matter , the better to serve their purpose , their published " Constitutions , " which now to read appear a curious sort of hotch-potchserving partly to wrap up and contain

, their newly-manufactured three degrees , or , as they call it , that " Centre of Union" which has been and may yet be " the means of conciliating true friendship among persons that must have remained at a perpetual distance" —alias our Speculative Freemasonry . —W P . BUCHAN .

CONSTANTINIAN ORDER ( p . 189 ) . The remark of " Ehodocanakis" that " a bastard " could not " be a Freemason" is simply a mistake . — ~ W . P . BUCHAN . GUILD OE MASONS AT EAVERSHAII ABBEY ( p . 185 ) . The remarks of " George Bedo" and "A . H . " are

both useful and interesting ; the thing is to follow up all these statements to a truthful and legitimate conclusion , putting fact and fact together , so as to get a a satisfactory whole . — "W . P . B .

THE lEGEND OP THE CRAET ( p . 186 ) . To say that " the legend of the ( operative ) Craft necessarily forms part of the history of our Freemasonry" is equivalent to saying that our Freemasonry ( which is not two centuries old ) requires its Koran ' as its Book of Mormon . —OBSERVER .

WITHOUT AND WITHIN ( p . 185 ) . Masonry suffers leys by the scurrilousness of those without than by the ill-judged want of honesty of those Avithin . —OBSERVER . WOODEN CHURCHES IN THE TWE 1 ETH CENTURY

- ( p . 187 ) . Forluna fanet fortibus—so says the old saying ; and at all events I seem to have been so fortunate as to checkmate "A Masonic Student" again ; for while he cannot find any wooden churches in the llth century that were anywhere begun and constructed , I gave him an example even in the 14 th ; aud as to the llth ,

Masonic Notes And Queries.

here is a quotation I have : — " King Canute ' s charter to Glastonbury Abbey in 1032 is dated from the wooden cliureli there , yet Glastonbury was one of the most Avealthy abbeys , even at that time . The walls were covered inside with plates of gold and silver , and outside with leadbut the material of construction

, was wood . I beg to be excused from going into this more deeply at present , on account of my business engagements . HISTOET or EEEEHASONRT . flow comes it that a good history of our Order

cannot be got up in London , the seat , seemingly , of its origin ? Perhaps the " Metropolitan Brother" of p ., 186 , will kindly supply this defect?—PICTUS . POST-CONQUEST BUIIDINGS ( p . 187 ) . " A Masonic Student" says " Post-Conquest buildings were all of stone . " I cannot admit that . —W . P . B .

THE JEWS ( pp . 141 and 1 S 7 ) . I beg to thank Bro . Charles Purton Cooper for his remarks at p . 167 . It was what I had hoped had been done , and I am all the more glad , therefore , that it has been done . —PICTUS . THE ORDER OE THE TEMPLE .

Among other reforms which I should like to see carried ont under the new regime , which we trust is about to be inaugurated , is the abolition of a practice which , if permitted to continue , may seriously affect the well-being of the Order . I allude to the custom so very prevalentespecially in large towns , of a

, Knight being a subscribing member of several encampments at one and the same time . This should not , by any means , be permitted , as we must acknowledge the practice to be contrary to common sense , and iu direct violation of all precedent , both ancient

and modern . The Cosmopolitan Order of the Temple represents an army—the army of Christ . In this sense the various Langues may be looked upon as Brigades or Divisious , and each subordinate encampment as a Company of a Begiment , which last will find its anti-type in the Provincial Grand Conclave . Nowmay I ask any of my readers what would be the

, result in the British , or any other , army were an officer to be placed in command of two or three companies at the same time ? I fear there would he weeping and wailing at the Horse Guards , and a total destruction of all discipline throughout the entire service . And yetwhen we look at the records of the Order of

, the Temple in the present day , we can find some , aye , many cases equally ridiculous as my supposition . I myself knew one brother Knight who was actually E . C . of two encampments at the same time , and a subscribing member of a third . This would not be

permitted in any priory working under the jurisdiction of the Chapter General of Scotland , which has ahvays preserved , in as much as possible , the ancient usages and customs of the Order . The same law is now in force in America , both as regards the Temple and the Craft , as our brethren across the Atlantic think , very justly , that no one can do his duty to two lodges or encampments at once . "We are told by the hig hest possible authority , " No man can serve two masters , - " and any Knight or Brother who Avishes

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DECORATION OF HONOUR: GORMOGONS: FREEMASONS. Article 3
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A COUNCIL OF RITES. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
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UNITED GRAND LODGE. Article 12
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PROVINCIAL. Article 16
INDIA. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 18
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. SCOTLAND. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 19TH MARCH, 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

of even the third degree . " Now the opinion of the brother who writes this is worthy of the highest consideration , yet I cannot exactly admit what he says , for Eule xih . of " General Regulations" proceeds -. — "Apprentices must be admitted If asters and Pell ow Craft only here , * unless by a dispensation . " This I

have considered refers to the degrees of Master and FelloAV Craft ; and it appears to me there is a very careful and studied reticence as to this matter throughout the whole work , the above quotation being almost an accident . However , as by Eule iii . we perceive that lodges then had " by-laws , " aud " all their

transactions that are proper to be written , " perhaps something might be got from them if any of that age in or about London are still . extant . As to the proceedings of the lodge , we are told they " will be best understood by attending it . " Altogether I think that our three degrees had , in 1723 , been already invented and

worked ; only the policy pursued by Desaguliers , Anderson , and Co ., caused them to throw an air of mystery and concealment over the whole'matter , the better to serve their purpose , their published " Constitutions , " which now to read appear a curious sort of hotch-potchserving partly to wrap up and contain

, their newly-manufactured three degrees , or , as they call it , that " Centre of Union" which has been and may yet be " the means of conciliating true friendship among persons that must have remained at a perpetual distance" —alias our Speculative Freemasonry . —W P . BUCHAN .

CONSTANTINIAN ORDER ( p . 189 ) . The remark of " Ehodocanakis" that " a bastard " could not " be a Freemason" is simply a mistake . — ~ W . P . BUCHAN . GUILD OE MASONS AT EAVERSHAII ABBEY ( p . 185 ) . The remarks of " George Bedo" and "A . H . " are

both useful and interesting ; the thing is to follow up all these statements to a truthful and legitimate conclusion , putting fact and fact together , so as to get a a satisfactory whole . — "W . P . B .

THE lEGEND OP THE CRAET ( p . 186 ) . To say that " the legend of the ( operative ) Craft necessarily forms part of the history of our Freemasonry" is equivalent to saying that our Freemasonry ( which is not two centuries old ) requires its Koran ' as its Book of Mormon . —OBSERVER .

WITHOUT AND WITHIN ( p . 185 ) . Masonry suffers leys by the scurrilousness of those without than by the ill-judged want of honesty of those Avithin . —OBSERVER . WOODEN CHURCHES IN THE TWE 1 ETH CENTURY

- ( p . 187 ) . Forluna fanet fortibus—so says the old saying ; and at all events I seem to have been so fortunate as to checkmate "A Masonic Student" again ; for while he cannot find any wooden churches in the llth century that were anywhere begun and constructed , I gave him an example even in the 14 th ; aud as to the llth ,

Masonic Notes And Queries.

here is a quotation I have : — " King Canute ' s charter to Glastonbury Abbey in 1032 is dated from the wooden cliureli there , yet Glastonbury was one of the most Avealthy abbeys , even at that time . The walls were covered inside with plates of gold and silver , and outside with leadbut the material of construction

, was wood . I beg to be excused from going into this more deeply at present , on account of my business engagements . HISTOET or EEEEHASONRT . flow comes it that a good history of our Order

cannot be got up in London , the seat , seemingly , of its origin ? Perhaps the " Metropolitan Brother" of p ., 186 , will kindly supply this defect?—PICTUS . POST-CONQUEST BUIIDINGS ( p . 187 ) . " A Masonic Student" says " Post-Conquest buildings were all of stone . " I cannot admit that . —W . P . B .

THE JEWS ( pp . 141 and 1 S 7 ) . I beg to thank Bro . Charles Purton Cooper for his remarks at p . 167 . It was what I had hoped had been done , and I am all the more glad , therefore , that it has been done . —PICTUS . THE ORDER OE THE TEMPLE .

Among other reforms which I should like to see carried ont under the new regime , which we trust is about to be inaugurated , is the abolition of a practice which , if permitted to continue , may seriously affect the well-being of the Order . I allude to the custom so very prevalentespecially in large towns , of a

, Knight being a subscribing member of several encampments at one and the same time . This should not , by any means , be permitted , as we must acknowledge the practice to be contrary to common sense , and iu direct violation of all precedent , both ancient

and modern . The Cosmopolitan Order of the Temple represents an army—the army of Christ . In this sense the various Langues may be looked upon as Brigades or Divisious , and each subordinate encampment as a Company of a Begiment , which last will find its anti-type in the Provincial Grand Conclave . Nowmay I ask any of my readers what would be the

, result in the British , or any other , army were an officer to be placed in command of two or three companies at the same time ? I fear there would he weeping and wailing at the Horse Guards , and a total destruction of all discipline throughout the entire service . And yetwhen we look at the records of the Order of

, the Temple in the present day , we can find some , aye , many cases equally ridiculous as my supposition . I myself knew one brother Knight who was actually E . C . of two encampments at the same time , and a subscribing member of a third . This would not be

permitted in any priory working under the jurisdiction of the Chapter General of Scotland , which has ahvays preserved , in as much as possible , the ancient usages and customs of the Order . The same law is now in force in America , both as regards the Temple and the Craft , as our brethren across the Atlantic think , very justly , that no one can do his duty to two lodges or encampments at once . "We are told by the hig hest possible authority , " No man can serve two masters , - " and any Knight or Brother who Avishes

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