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Masonic Notes And Queries.

EOSA CETTCIS . The following are the replies of Rosa Crucis to his several correspondents : — MASONS BY EIGHT . I never questioned the right of Jews and

Mahommedans to be Freemason because they are not Christians , but I denied then , and do still , that Jews , Deists , and Mahommedans are Masons by right ; and I challenge Bro . Circle to prove it by the Book of Constitutions . If any such claim did exist it would , however , be that of our Hebrew brethren to whom

we owe the Book of the Divine Law , and those glorious Hebrew poems which Tate and Brady did all they could to spoil ; and it was from a pure virgin of that ancient race that the Saviour of Mankind was born ; and , as to antiquity of descent , our oldest nohility are mere mushrooms when compared with the grand old princes of the House of Judah .

COEINTHIAN OBDEE . If Bro . Pictus will look into Josephus , he will find that Solomon built his house supported by " quadrangular pillars , " but "the roof was according to the Corinthian Order . "

OEEICE OE MASTEE MASON . The name of Master Mason appears frequently in the old rolls ; but it seems to me to mean a contractor rather than what we commonly understand by that appellation .

IMMOBTALITY OE THE SOTO . The Jews were divided upon this subject , but the Sadducees said there was no resurrection , and neither angel or spirit ; but the Pharisees confessed both , and Job says , "And though after my skin worms destroy this body , yet in my flesh shall I see God . "

EOYAL AECH DEGEEE . I have long been of opinion with the Masonic Student that the H . R . A . is only the latter portion of the M . M . Degree , separated by Grand Lodge for the purpose of creating additional Grand Officers , extra fees , and putting money into the pockets of Masonic jewellers .

LAW OE MIEACLES . A miracle "is an effect above human nature , a power performed in attestation of some truth " ( Bentley ) " effected by power more than natural " ( Herbert ) ,- wben our Saviour turned water into wine , teetotalism was not the fashion the ancient Jews

among and when he raised Lazarus and the widow ' s son to life , he performed a miracle . When Bro . Cooper or N . C . F . can do the same , they may be able to lay down the law of Miracles , but not till then . —From a bundle of Masonic Memoranda . —ROSA CRUCIS .

JEWISH CHAEITY , CHRISTIAN CHAEITY , IN EEEEMASONBY . A statement has been forwarded to Chateau . . . . In this statement a comparison is drawn between Jewish charity and Christian charity in Freemasonry which my experience entirely contradicts . In my province of Kent—1853-1860—the charitable

donations of the Jewish brothers were , in proportion to their numbers , fully as large as those of the Christian brothers . —From Bro . PUETON COOPEE ' Masonic Memorandum Book , April , 1867 .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

A HINT -FOR GRAND LODGE . The Bulletin of the Grand Orient of France , in recording the labours of the Council of the Order , or , as we should call it , Board of General Purposes , has a heading which shows that all plans of new lodge buildings are submitted to the Council ancl by them to a Select Committee . Thus we find the report on

the new buildings or rooms for a lodge at Compiogue and one at Carpentras . They are reported as strictly Masonic , and as presenting improvements on the previous accommodation afforded . They are consequently recommended to be authorized . Would it not be a good thing if lans of lodge rooms were

p submitted for approbation in England ? Would it be a good thing if they were submitted to the same authorities as those who in the Grand Lodge buildings have supplied us with rooms that are not Masonic ?—N .

BRO . VIENNET AND THE GRAND ORIENT OE PRANCE . The Bulletin of the Grand' Orient records that the death of M . 111 . Bro . Viennet , M . P . S . G . C . of the Ancient and Accepted Rite , was announced to the Council of the Grand Orient by their President at their sitting . Bro . S . Jean , D . G . M ., presiding , observed : " Brethren—You all know the mournful

, loss which Freemasonry has sustained . The M . III . Bro . Viennet , M . P . S . G . C , of the Supreme Council of France , is just dead , and his funeral takes place tomorrow , Tuesday , at the Church of the Madeleine . I propose that the Council be represented by a deputationand invite all the members who can to be

pre-, sent . We owe this example to our brethren of all rites , we owe this hommage to the qualities and virtues of the deceased . " A deputation was unanimously named and it attended ,- and , as a compliment to the deceased , a distinguished literary man was placed in the deputation . —N .

ORIGIN OE THE MASTEE S DEGEEE . My answer to the inquiry of a correspondent is that amongst my papers is a very recent memorandum to the effect that , according to Bro . Findel , the origin of the Master ' s Degree may have been some years before 1680 . —C . P . COOPEE .

ENGLISH FREEMASONRY AND CHRISTIANITY . Brother * * * , there may be Freemasonry without Christianity . But such Freemasonry would not be English Freemasonry . ... " Christianity is the essence of English Freemasonry . " This line , you say , occurs in my last letter . Now , if you take away the essence of a thing the thing droops anil expires .

. . . . I adhere to the words used in my communication , " Christianity and English Freemasonry , " Freemasons' Magazine , vol . 14 , page 301 . " English Freemasonry , from its nature , cannot exist if separated from Christianity . Divide English Froomasonry and Christiauity , and the former necessarilj and immediately perishes . Its principle of vitality is gone . " * —From . Bro . BURTON COOPEE ' Masonic Letter-Book , June , 1866 .

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FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE. Article 1
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
HIGH DEGREES AND SHAM DEGREES. Article 11
GRAND LODGE LIBRARY. Article 11
MASONIC APPEAL. Article 11
THE STATE OF MASONRY IN THE PROVINCES. Article 12
MASONIC RELIEF IN THE PROVINCES. Article 12
A LEESON TESTIMONIAL. Article 13
GIVE HONOUR TO WHOM HONOUR IS DUE. Article 13
ROYAL ALBERT ASYLUM LANCASTER. Article 14
MASONIC MEMS. Article 15
METROPOLITAN. Article 15
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
INDIA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
RED CROSS KNIGHTS OF CONSTANTINE. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
DEATH OF MADAME VICTOR HUGO. Article 20
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING SEPTEMBER 19th, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

EOSA CETTCIS . The following are the replies of Rosa Crucis to his several correspondents : — MASONS BY EIGHT . I never questioned the right of Jews and

Mahommedans to be Freemason because they are not Christians , but I denied then , and do still , that Jews , Deists , and Mahommedans are Masons by right ; and I challenge Bro . Circle to prove it by the Book of Constitutions . If any such claim did exist it would , however , be that of our Hebrew brethren to whom

we owe the Book of the Divine Law , and those glorious Hebrew poems which Tate and Brady did all they could to spoil ; and it was from a pure virgin of that ancient race that the Saviour of Mankind was born ; and , as to antiquity of descent , our oldest nohility are mere mushrooms when compared with the grand old princes of the House of Judah .

COEINTHIAN OBDEE . If Bro . Pictus will look into Josephus , he will find that Solomon built his house supported by " quadrangular pillars , " but "the roof was according to the Corinthian Order . "

OEEICE OE MASTEE MASON . The name of Master Mason appears frequently in the old rolls ; but it seems to me to mean a contractor rather than what we commonly understand by that appellation .

IMMOBTALITY OE THE SOTO . The Jews were divided upon this subject , but the Sadducees said there was no resurrection , and neither angel or spirit ; but the Pharisees confessed both , and Job says , "And though after my skin worms destroy this body , yet in my flesh shall I see God . "

EOYAL AECH DEGEEE . I have long been of opinion with the Masonic Student that the H . R . A . is only the latter portion of the M . M . Degree , separated by Grand Lodge for the purpose of creating additional Grand Officers , extra fees , and putting money into the pockets of Masonic jewellers .

LAW OE MIEACLES . A miracle "is an effect above human nature , a power performed in attestation of some truth " ( Bentley ) " effected by power more than natural " ( Herbert ) ,- wben our Saviour turned water into wine , teetotalism was not the fashion the ancient Jews

among and when he raised Lazarus and the widow ' s son to life , he performed a miracle . When Bro . Cooper or N . C . F . can do the same , they may be able to lay down the law of Miracles , but not till then . —From a bundle of Masonic Memoranda . —ROSA CRUCIS .

JEWISH CHAEITY , CHRISTIAN CHAEITY , IN EEEEMASONBY . A statement has been forwarded to Chateau . . . . In this statement a comparison is drawn between Jewish charity and Christian charity in Freemasonry which my experience entirely contradicts . In my province of Kent—1853-1860—the charitable

donations of the Jewish brothers were , in proportion to their numbers , fully as large as those of the Christian brothers . —From Bro . PUETON COOPEE ' Masonic Memorandum Book , April , 1867 .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

A HINT -FOR GRAND LODGE . The Bulletin of the Grand Orient of France , in recording the labours of the Council of the Order , or , as we should call it , Board of General Purposes , has a heading which shows that all plans of new lodge buildings are submitted to the Council ancl by them to a Select Committee . Thus we find the report on

the new buildings or rooms for a lodge at Compiogue and one at Carpentras . They are reported as strictly Masonic , and as presenting improvements on the previous accommodation afforded . They are consequently recommended to be authorized . Would it not be a good thing if lans of lodge rooms were

p submitted for approbation in England ? Would it be a good thing if they were submitted to the same authorities as those who in the Grand Lodge buildings have supplied us with rooms that are not Masonic ?—N .

BRO . VIENNET AND THE GRAND ORIENT OE PRANCE . The Bulletin of the Grand' Orient records that the death of M . 111 . Bro . Viennet , M . P . S . G . C . of the Ancient and Accepted Rite , was announced to the Council of the Grand Orient by their President at their sitting . Bro . S . Jean , D . G . M ., presiding , observed : " Brethren—You all know the mournful

, loss which Freemasonry has sustained . The M . III . Bro . Viennet , M . P . S . G . C , of the Supreme Council of France , is just dead , and his funeral takes place tomorrow , Tuesday , at the Church of the Madeleine . I propose that the Council be represented by a deputationand invite all the members who can to be

pre-, sent . We owe this example to our brethren of all rites , we owe this hommage to the qualities and virtues of the deceased . " A deputation was unanimously named and it attended ,- and , as a compliment to the deceased , a distinguished literary man was placed in the deputation . —N .

ORIGIN OE THE MASTEE S DEGEEE . My answer to the inquiry of a correspondent is that amongst my papers is a very recent memorandum to the effect that , according to Bro . Findel , the origin of the Master ' s Degree may have been some years before 1680 . —C . P . COOPEE .

ENGLISH FREEMASONRY AND CHRISTIANITY . Brother * * * , there may be Freemasonry without Christianity . But such Freemasonry would not be English Freemasonry . ... " Christianity is the essence of English Freemasonry . " This line , you say , occurs in my last letter . Now , if you take away the essence of a thing the thing droops anil expires .

. . . . I adhere to the words used in my communication , " Christianity and English Freemasonry , " Freemasons' Magazine , vol . 14 , page 301 . " English Freemasonry , from its nature , cannot exist if separated from Christianity . Divide English Froomasonry and Christiauity , and the former necessarilj and immediately perishes . Its principle of vitality is gone . " * —From . Bro . BURTON COOPEE ' Masonic Letter-Book , June , 1866 .

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