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The "Grand Lodge Of Quebec."

Allusion is made to the eleven remaining " regular Lodges" in the Province of Quebec belonging to the registry of Canada , and refers to " the many leading members known to be in each of them , " who favour the schism , but no mention is made of the number of brethren or

members of the Lodges , which the Grand Lodge of Quebec claims as her own , who have refused to join the schismatics , in every case , wo are informed , of sufficient number to continue the work of the Lodges , which they have done and will

continue to do . We are not informed whether the seceding members of these Lodges have taken possession of furniture and jewels , but as they are working their Lodges under the new jurisdiction , we may presume they have done so . This is an act clearly illegal , as it is provided by the constitution that while seven members

remain the Lodge cannot be broken up . The majority of the members , therefore , have no legal power to take the Lodge over to the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of Quebec ; all they can do is to resign their membership , and rejoin what must

prove to be an irregular Lodge . This irregularity is admitted by the fact of the eleven remaining Lodges on the Registry of tbe Grand Lodge of Canada being alluded to as " regular Lodges . " It is impossible that there can be two regular

Masonic jurisdictions in one territory , and if the schismatics admit the remaining eleven Lodges , who continue their allegiance to the Grand Lodge of Canada , to be regular , they thereby unequivocally declare themselves irregular .

The Grand Master says : — It is almost incredible that the D . D . G . M ' s . of the districts of Montreal and Bedford , should have to report

that dispensations or warrants have been granted by the G . L . of 0 . ' to open one now lodge in each of their districts . ' It should bave been well known to the humblest brother , official , or unofficial , having the least possible knowledge of the constitutions , and laws of the fraternity , that from and after the formation of this Grand Lodge ,

no lodge opened in the province of Quebec , by any other than this Grand Body could be considered a ' regularly formed' Lodge of Freemasons , unless constituted or made ' regular' by the Grand Lodge of Quebec . No question of recognition , or non-recognition , nor any other such like consideration , could in any -way affect or change the

de facto existence of this Grand Body ns the only rightful Grand Lodge in and for the Province of Quebec , from and after the 20 th of October , 1869 , and from which alone dispensations , or warrants for new lodges could ' regularly' be obtained . And as to the few ' duplicated lodges , it surely cannot be otherwise than that all

misunderstandings will be speedily removed , and harmony , con cord , and fraternal unity again prevail . " The sooner harmony , concord , and fraternal unity again prevail the better , but we fear that the Quebec secessionists are going the wrong way to

secure it . Their statements are contradictory and completely untenable . Almost in the same breath they admit the regularity of the remaining lodges ; on the other hand they deny the right of the Grand Lodge of Canada to grant warrants for

new lodges . Surely if the Grand Master can hold sway over these lodges and continue the appointment of Grand Masters to the respective districts , there cannot be the slightest doubt that he has a legal right to grant dispensations for new lodges .

The Grand Master states that the lodges on the register of the Grand Lodge of Quebec have not " retaliated " by refusing visitations to brethren in good standing in regular lodges . How condescending ! " Nor , as might

readily be done , has this Grand Lodge retaliated by granting dispensations to form lodges in the sister Province of Ontario ? " Truly magnanimous ! We in England will next have to congratulate ourselves that there is no likelihood of a disturbance

of our harmony , from the fear of the " Grand Lodge of Quebec" granting warrants for lodges in England ! But while so nobly disdaining to encroach on a portion of the territory , the new Grand

Lodge , like another Alexander , is already seeking fields for new conquests . It has already got an eye upon the " goodly province of Manitoba , " the " recently acquired territory of Hudson ' s Bay , " and the Colonies of Newfoundland , Prince Edward

Island , British Columbia , and " other Colonies , so soon as they may be admitted as provinces in this Dominion . " The Grand Master intimates that should petitions be made for new lodges in any of these territories , he should have no hesitation in granting them . This hardly comes under the

term " unbiassed by the improper solicitation of friends "; and the rule that governs the introduction of candidates into private lodges , should be strictly observed in the higher ranks of the Craft . It savours too much of the touting system , and derogates greatly from the high tone which we look for in a Grand Master .

SIGNET . —A . sign , token , or seal . Formerly rulers had seals or signets with which they invested their ministers , as signs that tbey acted by royal authority . The signet of King Solomon , or rather of Hiram , known among Masons , is said to have been a token of friendship which tho King of Tyro sent to the Hebrew monarch .

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Untitled Article 1
THE "GRAND LODGE OF QUEBEC." Article 1
NOTES ON AMERICAN FREEMASONRY. Article 3
ANCIENT OPERATIVE FREEMASONRY, OR TRAVELLING FREEMASONRY. Article 6
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 44. Article 7
FREEMASONRY IN JAPAN. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
THE ALHAMBRA PALACE. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
MARK MASONRY IN DURHAM. Article 9
FREEMASONRY AT THE CAPE OF GOOD HOPE. Article 10
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 10
Untitled Article 11
MASONIC MEMS. Article 11
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
SCOTLAND. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 16
KNIGHTS OF MALTA. Article 16
REVIEWS. Article 16
ADDRESS. Article 17
A NOBLE BROTHERHOOD. Article 18
HOW OUGHT MASONS TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES OUTSIDE OF THE LODGE? Article 18
Poetry. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 19TH NOVEMBER , 1870. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGES AND CHAPTERS OF INSTRUCTION. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The "Grand Lodge Of Quebec."

Allusion is made to the eleven remaining " regular Lodges" in the Province of Quebec belonging to the registry of Canada , and refers to " the many leading members known to be in each of them , " who favour the schism , but no mention is made of the number of brethren or

members of the Lodges , which the Grand Lodge of Quebec claims as her own , who have refused to join the schismatics , in every case , wo are informed , of sufficient number to continue the work of the Lodges , which they have done and will

continue to do . We are not informed whether the seceding members of these Lodges have taken possession of furniture and jewels , but as they are working their Lodges under the new jurisdiction , we may presume they have done so . This is an act clearly illegal , as it is provided by the constitution that while seven members

remain the Lodge cannot be broken up . The majority of the members , therefore , have no legal power to take the Lodge over to the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of Quebec ; all they can do is to resign their membership , and rejoin what must

prove to be an irregular Lodge . This irregularity is admitted by the fact of the eleven remaining Lodges on the Registry of tbe Grand Lodge of Canada being alluded to as " regular Lodges . " It is impossible that there can be two regular

Masonic jurisdictions in one territory , and if the schismatics admit the remaining eleven Lodges , who continue their allegiance to the Grand Lodge of Canada , to be regular , they thereby unequivocally declare themselves irregular .

The Grand Master says : — It is almost incredible that the D . D . G . M ' s . of the districts of Montreal and Bedford , should have to report

that dispensations or warrants have been granted by the G . L . of 0 . ' to open one now lodge in each of their districts . ' It should bave been well known to the humblest brother , official , or unofficial , having the least possible knowledge of the constitutions , and laws of the fraternity , that from and after the formation of this Grand Lodge ,

no lodge opened in the province of Quebec , by any other than this Grand Body could be considered a ' regularly formed' Lodge of Freemasons , unless constituted or made ' regular' by the Grand Lodge of Quebec . No question of recognition , or non-recognition , nor any other such like consideration , could in any -way affect or change the

de facto existence of this Grand Body ns the only rightful Grand Lodge in and for the Province of Quebec , from and after the 20 th of October , 1869 , and from which alone dispensations , or warrants for new lodges could ' regularly' be obtained . And as to the few ' duplicated lodges , it surely cannot be otherwise than that all

misunderstandings will be speedily removed , and harmony , con cord , and fraternal unity again prevail . " The sooner harmony , concord , and fraternal unity again prevail the better , but we fear that the Quebec secessionists are going the wrong way to

secure it . Their statements are contradictory and completely untenable . Almost in the same breath they admit the regularity of the remaining lodges ; on the other hand they deny the right of the Grand Lodge of Canada to grant warrants for

new lodges . Surely if the Grand Master can hold sway over these lodges and continue the appointment of Grand Masters to the respective districts , there cannot be the slightest doubt that he has a legal right to grant dispensations for new lodges .

The Grand Master states that the lodges on the register of the Grand Lodge of Quebec have not " retaliated " by refusing visitations to brethren in good standing in regular lodges . How condescending ! " Nor , as might

readily be done , has this Grand Lodge retaliated by granting dispensations to form lodges in the sister Province of Ontario ? " Truly magnanimous ! We in England will next have to congratulate ourselves that there is no likelihood of a disturbance

of our harmony , from the fear of the " Grand Lodge of Quebec" granting warrants for lodges in England ! But while so nobly disdaining to encroach on a portion of the territory , the new Grand

Lodge , like another Alexander , is already seeking fields for new conquests . It has already got an eye upon the " goodly province of Manitoba , " the " recently acquired territory of Hudson ' s Bay , " and the Colonies of Newfoundland , Prince Edward

Island , British Columbia , and " other Colonies , so soon as they may be admitted as provinces in this Dominion . " The Grand Master intimates that should petitions be made for new lodges in any of these territories , he should have no hesitation in granting them . This hardly comes under the

term " unbiassed by the improper solicitation of friends "; and the rule that governs the introduction of candidates into private lodges , should be strictly observed in the higher ranks of the Craft . It savours too much of the touting system , and derogates greatly from the high tone which we look for in a Grand Master .

SIGNET . —A . sign , token , or seal . Formerly rulers had seals or signets with which they invested their ministers , as signs that tbey acted by royal authority . The signet of King Solomon , or rather of Hiram , known among Masons , is said to have been a token of friendship which tho King of Tyro sent to the Hebrew monarch .

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