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Mother Kilwinning.

tives , yet a Master and other Officers should always be chosen , turn about , out of the Operatives with the other Members ; and these two Several Resolutions were regularly Entered in the Books as a Standing Law in all time coming . " This method was practised for some years with universal approbationtill of late a very turbulent

, and unruly Brother was elected Master of this Lodge , iu which Capacity his conduct has been a down right prostitution of Masonry , for , instead of supporting that friendship and harmony so peculiar to free Masons , he on the contrary has made it his study to foment strife and contention among tis . In the first

place , in conjunction with the possie of his own Creatures , they have taken it upon them to burn and destroy sundry of our B y Laws , particularly the one giving us the privilege of having one of the Operatives chosen a Master with the other Members , turn about : Andin the Second lacebecause we would

, p , not sign certain new Rules and Regulations , the said Master and his followers violently and forcibly carried off our Charter Chest from the Lodge , with all the Cash aud other appurtenants therein , and where they have Secreted them is more than we can find out .

" That these new Laws and Rules they were endeavouring to impose upon us are so repugnant to the principle of Masons , that we can never bring our selves to sign them , seeing they have such a direct tendency to overturn all the Laws made in favours of Operatives , and which we apprehend no Master will be allowed to do without the Concurrence of your

Worships , from whom we derived our privileges . Erom the above State of our Case , it ' s believed you'll think we hare been highly Injured , and that the Conduct of the other party lias been very Criminal , and justly merits your Severest Censure . " May it therefore please your Worships to take

our Case into your Serious Consideration , and to grant us such Redress in the premises as you shall judge proper , " And your Petitioners shall ever pray , & c , & c , " ALE . x _ . __ . nER MAI _ _ , Dept . Mr . "DATED AULDJunior Warden

, " Joirx NILSOS , Stewart ( and six others . )" How or in what manner the Mother Lodge interposed their authority to restore tranquillity among the brethren of the younger of their Port-Glasgow daughters , there is nothing in these records to shew .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

JtR . SEW AUD AXD FEEEMASO-STvY . When the debates and discussions of the United States Anti-Masonic Convention were held at Philadelphia , in September , 1830 , the present American minister , Mr . Seward , took an active part in them , and William H . Seward ' s name occurs amongst a list of the New York delegates .

A few extracts of his remarks may , at this juncture , prove acceptable to Masons : — " Mr . Seward , of New York , said that the abduction and murder of Morgan were not the acts of a few misguided men . It had been participated in , or approved by , at least one hundred Masons . Morgan had fallen a martyr to the liberty of the press . In relation to the obligation of Masonry , he said that one question was ,

whether one hundred , thousand citizens of the United States had taken an oath which would prevent them being impartial jurors . When was there such a question to call forth the energies of a free press ? Where was there an editor who would dare to tell this truth ? Be it true or false , it ought to be made known . " . . . " Mr . Seward , of New York , said he was one of those

who would be pleased to have anti-Masonic candidates for the presidency . Ho should also be pleased to have such candidates succeed , but ho likewise thought that prudence was necessary . He believed that it was nob expedient now to make the nomination . " . . . On the motion of Mr . Seward , of New York , it was resolved , that a committee of one from each state and

territory here represented be appointed to make a concise report on the progress of anti-Masonry throughout the United States . " ... " Mr . Seward moved to amend the report by striking out the words ' Satan ' s synagogue , ' used in application to the Masonic Institution , and by inserting , in lieu thereofthe words ' unhallowed temple . ' " ...

, "Mr . Seward—Mr . President , as the convention seems not disposed , at this moment , to proceed to the question upon the address , I have thought it might not waste time unnecessarily in making a few observations . " I was one of those who , in the convention of the State of New York , had the honour to join in recommending to the le of the United Slates to meet at

peop this place , and upon this occasion , for tho redress of what you and I thought to bo a matter of common interest and concern to the people of these United States . By a large , respectable , and intelligent portion of our fellowcitizens that recommendation has been heard , and this convention shows that it has been answered .

" Now , Sir , the address which has been reported by this Committee , is tho means of extending the principles that sent us hither into those parts of our common country which have not yet been agitated by them . This address is the measure whicli is to excite public attention and to direct public inquiry . " The question is whether this address shall be adopted ? Is there a man in my hearing who does not feel that it is

one of tho most important questions which could occupy the attention of this body ? Who that is familar with the rise and progress of Secret Societies in the States of New York , Pennsylvania , Vermont , and all the other sections in which the question has been agitated , who does not know that it is , wherever agitated , a question of perilous moment—a question either fraught with evilor

, productive of the most efficient good ? It becomes us to deliberate upon the question whether we will extend these principles further . "The question whether Secret Societies shall longer exist in this country under our free institutions is indeed a new question , and for that reason it encounters opposition . "

In this strain Mr . Seward , the champion of liberty of the press at that date—what he is now Heaven only knows—continued to harangue the meeting against the Masonic Institution , and whilst the anti-Masonic agitation lasted was one of its most uncompromising advocates . No wonder then that , as no spark of generous sympathy inculcated bthe teachings of the Craft ever

y entered his bosom ; he can recklessly aid the President of the dis-United States in deluging the country with bloodshed , and all the attendant evils of a fratricidal civil war . Such conduct is no more than could be expected from an anti-Masonic delegate . —Ex . Ex .

AXCIEXT MASOXIC PKOCESSIOX . In the FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE of Sept . 19 , 1863 , under the head of " Notes and Queries , " an account is given of a Masonic procession ( Sept . 13 , 1736 ) from the " Earl of Loudon ' s house to Fishmongers' Hall . Through the kindness of the clerk to tho company , W . B . Towse , Esq ., I have had the books searched , and for the iufor-

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CORRESPONDENCE. Article 4
EXCLUSION OF VISITORS AT MASONIC TRIALS. Article 5
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THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 7
PROVINCIAL. Article 9
MARK MASONRY. Article 12
IRELAND. Article 12
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
INDIA. Article 14
Poetry. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Mother Kilwinning.

tives , yet a Master and other Officers should always be chosen , turn about , out of the Operatives with the other Members ; and these two Several Resolutions were regularly Entered in the Books as a Standing Law in all time coming . " This method was practised for some years with universal approbationtill of late a very turbulent

, and unruly Brother was elected Master of this Lodge , iu which Capacity his conduct has been a down right prostitution of Masonry , for , instead of supporting that friendship and harmony so peculiar to free Masons , he on the contrary has made it his study to foment strife and contention among tis . In the first

place , in conjunction with the possie of his own Creatures , they have taken it upon them to burn and destroy sundry of our B y Laws , particularly the one giving us the privilege of having one of the Operatives chosen a Master with the other Members , turn about : Andin the Second lacebecause we would

, p , not sign certain new Rules and Regulations , the said Master and his followers violently and forcibly carried off our Charter Chest from the Lodge , with all the Cash aud other appurtenants therein , and where they have Secreted them is more than we can find out .

" That these new Laws and Rules they were endeavouring to impose upon us are so repugnant to the principle of Masons , that we can never bring our selves to sign them , seeing they have such a direct tendency to overturn all the Laws made in favours of Operatives , and which we apprehend no Master will be allowed to do without the Concurrence of your

Worships , from whom we derived our privileges . Erom the above State of our Case , it ' s believed you'll think we hare been highly Injured , and that the Conduct of the other party lias been very Criminal , and justly merits your Severest Censure . " May it therefore please your Worships to take

our Case into your Serious Consideration , and to grant us such Redress in the premises as you shall judge proper , " And your Petitioners shall ever pray , & c , & c , " ALE . x _ . __ . nER MAI _ _ , Dept . Mr . "DATED AULDJunior Warden

, " Joirx NILSOS , Stewart ( and six others . )" How or in what manner the Mother Lodge interposed their authority to restore tranquillity among the brethren of the younger of their Port-Glasgow daughters , there is nothing in these records to shew .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

JtR . SEW AUD AXD FEEEMASO-STvY . When the debates and discussions of the United States Anti-Masonic Convention were held at Philadelphia , in September , 1830 , the present American minister , Mr . Seward , took an active part in them , and William H . Seward ' s name occurs amongst a list of the New York delegates .

A few extracts of his remarks may , at this juncture , prove acceptable to Masons : — " Mr . Seward , of New York , said that the abduction and murder of Morgan were not the acts of a few misguided men . It had been participated in , or approved by , at least one hundred Masons . Morgan had fallen a martyr to the liberty of the press . In relation to the obligation of Masonry , he said that one question was ,

whether one hundred , thousand citizens of the United States had taken an oath which would prevent them being impartial jurors . When was there such a question to call forth the energies of a free press ? Where was there an editor who would dare to tell this truth ? Be it true or false , it ought to be made known . " . . . " Mr . Seward , of New York , said he was one of those

who would be pleased to have anti-Masonic candidates for the presidency . Ho should also be pleased to have such candidates succeed , but ho likewise thought that prudence was necessary . He believed that it was nob expedient now to make the nomination . " . . . On the motion of Mr . Seward , of New York , it was resolved , that a committee of one from each state and

territory here represented be appointed to make a concise report on the progress of anti-Masonry throughout the United States . " ... " Mr . Seward moved to amend the report by striking out the words ' Satan ' s synagogue , ' used in application to the Masonic Institution , and by inserting , in lieu thereofthe words ' unhallowed temple . ' " ...

, "Mr . Seward—Mr . President , as the convention seems not disposed , at this moment , to proceed to the question upon the address , I have thought it might not waste time unnecessarily in making a few observations . " I was one of those who , in the convention of the State of New York , had the honour to join in recommending to the le of the United Slates to meet at

peop this place , and upon this occasion , for tho redress of what you and I thought to bo a matter of common interest and concern to the people of these United States . By a large , respectable , and intelligent portion of our fellowcitizens that recommendation has been heard , and this convention shows that it has been answered .

" Now , Sir , the address which has been reported by this Committee , is tho means of extending the principles that sent us hither into those parts of our common country which have not yet been agitated by them . This address is the measure whicli is to excite public attention and to direct public inquiry . " The question is whether this address shall be adopted ? Is there a man in my hearing who does not feel that it is

one of tho most important questions which could occupy the attention of this body ? Who that is familar with the rise and progress of Secret Societies in the States of New York , Pennsylvania , Vermont , and all the other sections in which the question has been agitated , who does not know that it is , wherever agitated , a question of perilous moment—a question either fraught with evilor

, productive of the most efficient good ? It becomes us to deliberate upon the question whether we will extend these principles further . "The question whether Secret Societies shall longer exist in this country under our free institutions is indeed a new question , and for that reason it encounters opposition . "

In this strain Mr . Seward , the champion of liberty of the press at that date—what he is now Heaven only knows—continued to harangue the meeting against the Masonic Institution , and whilst the anti-Masonic agitation lasted was one of its most uncompromising advocates . No wonder then that , as no spark of generous sympathy inculcated bthe teachings of the Craft ever

y entered his bosom ; he can recklessly aid the President of the dis-United States in deluging the country with bloodshed , and all the attendant evils of a fratricidal civil war . Such conduct is no more than could be expected from an anti-Masonic delegate . —Ex . Ex .

AXCIEXT MASOXIC PKOCESSIOX . In the FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE of Sept . 19 , 1863 , under the head of " Notes and Queries , " an account is given of a Masonic procession ( Sept . 13 , 1736 ) from the " Earl of Loudon ' s house to Fishmongers' Hall . Through the kindness of the clerk to tho company , W . B . Towse , Esq ., I have had the books searched , and for the iufor-

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