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Masonic Notes And Queries.

flical proofs of the existence of God ; The moral law and Preemasonry ; Mysteries of ancient nations ; Mystic Pantheism ; Natural Theology ; The Ritualists ; Positive Religions ; The Positivists ; Prayers in the lodge ; Rationalists ; Soul's immortality , the belief therein ; Theism , Deism , and Freemasonry ; Toleration

in Preemasonry ; The True , the Beautiful , the Good ; Monsieur Vacherot ' s Idealism . Vol . XV .: —Axiom of Freemason ' s Theology ; The Bible in the lodge ; The Buddhists ; Certain Foreign Freemasonry ; The Christian and the Freemasons ; The Chinese ; Christianity and Freemasonry The Christian Missionary

; and the English Freemason ; The Clergy of England ; Cicero's Philosophical Works and Preemasonry ; Creation ; Creed of a candidate for initiation in a Lancashire lodge ; Development of Freemasonry ; English Preemasonry essentially monotheistic ; The English Freemason and the Hindoo Pantheist

; England ' s duty ; Equality , how understood by the English Freemason ; Prance , its philosophical -systems ; Preemasonry without Religion ; The glorious Architect of Heaven and earth ; The God of Freemasonrv and the God of mvstical Pantheism :

The God of Anaxagorus and the God of Preemasonry ; Goethe ' sPantheisni ; The high grades in Preemasonry ; The Hindoo , the Polynesian , and the English Freemason ; Hindoos admitted into English Preemasonry ; Homo sibi Deus ; The intolerance incompatible with true Freemasonry ; Liberty and Freemasonry ; A

Masonic project ; The Metempsychosis ; Mirabeau and Preemasonry ; Monotheism of the English Freemason ; La Morale Independante ; JS ' atural religion ; Of what the true Freemason is the depository ; Pantheism or Monotheism ; The Parsees ; The Chevalier Ramsay and Preemasonry ; The form of English

Preemasonry ; The religion of Socrates and the religion of Preemasonry as a universal institution ; Schleiermacher and Spinoza ; Solidarity ; Something to which Preemasonry without religion may be likened ; The soul ' s pre-existence ; Spinoza and VoltaireSinozismThe struggleTrue

Pree-; p ; ; masonry ; True Freemasonry and pure Christianity ; Union of Preemasonry and Christianity ; ' Usage of a Provincial Grand Lodge to proceed to Church ; The Voltarians ; Voltarianism and Spinozism . ¦¦ — C P . COOPEE .

VISCOUNT HOLMESDALE . In answer to the letter of a AVest Kent brother , I say that the invitation of the Sovereign to banquet , dinner , concert , ball , is by all loyal subjects rightly considered ( ivhat indeed , I believe its purposes to be ) a command , disobedience to which , unless for some

grave and extraordinary cause , would be altogether unpardonable . Had , therefore , Lord Holmesdale on the 12 th June last , instead of going to the Royal State Concert at Buckingham Palace , thought fit , as Provincial Grand Master for Kent , to preside at the annual festival held at Folkestone , it would have heen very unseemly violation of his duty to her Majesty . —C . P . COOPEE .

It is now one hundred and fiftv years since the Orrand Lodge of England was established upon its present modem basis , the four old lodges having held their celebrated meeting at the Appletree Tavern in 1717 . Surely some little commemmoration might take place amongst English lodges when the keenest

interest is felt in the event amongst our German and other Continental brethren ? Moreover but few of us can hope to be alive when the two hundredth anniversary rolls round . —MAGUS . THE EOSICEUCIAK" SOCIETY . In answer to certain enquiries it may be well to

state that the English branch of the Rosicrucians is now in full vigour , and every information can be obtained by Master Masons applying to Bro . II . G . Buss , the Treas . Gen ., or Bro . \ V . Turner , the Sec . Gen ., George Hotel , Aldermanbury , at which house the section " Kabbalisticus auditus " will be elucidated

early in October . VISITING LODGES . Your late correspondent , anent Lodge Charity , No . 270 , may gather the information he requires from the following fact : •—The Secretary of a lodge in one

province crosses a broad river and enters another province , he demands admission into a lodge , the officers of which well know that he was a Mason , but nevertheless refused him admission . Query . If the brother was morally unfit to visit a lodge , is he a fit person to be a Secretary ; and , if not , should he be permitted to remain in the Order . —P . M .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . TO THE EDITOR OF THE ' FREEMASOXS' MAGAZIXE ___{_} 3 TASOXIC iTIREOE . DEAE SIE AND BEOTHEE . —In your number of July Gth , your correspondent , W . S . L ., put forth several queries , ansAvered by you at some length , with the exception of the lastwhich was originally put

, on page 407 , May 25 th . The omission is probably OAving to the direct reference to myself and Bro . Hughan on the point . I did not reply in the first instance , though I remember noticing it at the time , because I was unwilling to intrude on your space unnecessariland I felt that some one else would be

y , sure to offer an answer ; moreover , the " Book of Constitutions " is explicit on the point . I hold that the only " proper voucher" that can be given is a Grand Lodge certificate , though under some peculiar circumstances one from a private lodge may temporarilv serve the nurnose , but it is often not asked for

from a visitor , as has been the case with me twice during the past week . Aware of the frequent omission , probably OAving to an inexcusable want of familiarity with the Constitutions among the majority of our members when I dreiv up the by-laws for Kb . 958 , 1 inserted an especial one to the effect that no

brother who was not personally vouched for should be admitted without shoAving his certificate , which was confirmed hy the lodge and sanctioned by the Prov . G . M ., thus making it the uniform custom to require a perusal of the certificate of every visitor before proceeding to examine him . This document

by itself does not afford sufficient proof , for I have understood that it is a practice among professional beggars to obtain certificates of deceased Masons , take out the signatures by a chemical process and substitute another , so that there may be no difficulty in case the applicant be required to write his name , with a view to identify the handivriting .

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CORRESPONDENCE. Article 7
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MASONIC MEMS. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
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SCOTLAND. Article 12
AMERICA. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 15
MARK MASONRY. Article 16
KNIGHTS OF THE RED CROSS OF CONSTANTINE. Article 16
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 16
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE BINE ARTS. Article 16
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TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

flical proofs of the existence of God ; The moral law and Preemasonry ; Mysteries of ancient nations ; Mystic Pantheism ; Natural Theology ; The Ritualists ; Positive Religions ; The Positivists ; Prayers in the lodge ; Rationalists ; Soul's immortality , the belief therein ; Theism , Deism , and Freemasonry ; Toleration

in Preemasonry ; The True , the Beautiful , the Good ; Monsieur Vacherot ' s Idealism . Vol . XV .: —Axiom of Freemason ' s Theology ; The Bible in the lodge ; The Buddhists ; Certain Foreign Freemasonry ; The Christian and the Freemasons ; The Chinese ; Christianity and Freemasonry The Christian Missionary

; and the English Freemason ; The Clergy of England ; Cicero's Philosophical Works and Preemasonry ; Creation ; Creed of a candidate for initiation in a Lancashire lodge ; Development of Freemasonry ; English Preemasonry essentially monotheistic ; The English Freemason and the Hindoo Pantheist

; England ' s duty ; Equality , how understood by the English Freemason ; Prance , its philosophical -systems ; Preemasonry without Religion ; The glorious Architect of Heaven and earth ; The God of Freemasonrv and the God of mvstical Pantheism :

The God of Anaxagorus and the God of Preemasonry ; Goethe ' sPantheisni ; The high grades in Preemasonry ; The Hindoo , the Polynesian , and the English Freemason ; Hindoos admitted into English Preemasonry ; Homo sibi Deus ; The intolerance incompatible with true Freemasonry ; Liberty and Freemasonry ; A

Masonic project ; The Metempsychosis ; Mirabeau and Preemasonry ; Monotheism of the English Freemason ; La Morale Independante ; JS ' atural religion ; Of what the true Freemason is the depository ; Pantheism or Monotheism ; The Parsees ; The Chevalier Ramsay and Preemasonry ; The form of English

Preemasonry ; The religion of Socrates and the religion of Preemasonry as a universal institution ; Schleiermacher and Spinoza ; Solidarity ; Something to which Preemasonry without religion may be likened ; The soul ' s pre-existence ; Spinoza and VoltaireSinozismThe struggleTrue

Pree-; p ; ; masonry ; True Freemasonry and pure Christianity ; Union of Preemasonry and Christianity ; ' Usage of a Provincial Grand Lodge to proceed to Church ; The Voltarians ; Voltarianism and Spinozism . ¦¦ — C P . COOPEE .

VISCOUNT HOLMESDALE . In answer to the letter of a AVest Kent brother , I say that the invitation of the Sovereign to banquet , dinner , concert , ball , is by all loyal subjects rightly considered ( ivhat indeed , I believe its purposes to be ) a command , disobedience to which , unless for some

grave and extraordinary cause , would be altogether unpardonable . Had , therefore , Lord Holmesdale on the 12 th June last , instead of going to the Royal State Concert at Buckingham Palace , thought fit , as Provincial Grand Master for Kent , to preside at the annual festival held at Folkestone , it would have heen very unseemly violation of his duty to her Majesty . —C . P . COOPEE .

It is now one hundred and fiftv years since the Orrand Lodge of England was established upon its present modem basis , the four old lodges having held their celebrated meeting at the Appletree Tavern in 1717 . Surely some little commemmoration might take place amongst English lodges when the keenest

interest is felt in the event amongst our German and other Continental brethren ? Moreover but few of us can hope to be alive when the two hundredth anniversary rolls round . —MAGUS . THE EOSICEUCIAK" SOCIETY . In answer to certain enquiries it may be well to

state that the English branch of the Rosicrucians is now in full vigour , and every information can be obtained by Master Masons applying to Bro . II . G . Buss , the Treas . Gen ., or Bro . \ V . Turner , the Sec . Gen ., George Hotel , Aldermanbury , at which house the section " Kabbalisticus auditus " will be elucidated

early in October . VISITING LODGES . Your late correspondent , anent Lodge Charity , No . 270 , may gather the information he requires from the following fact : •—The Secretary of a lodge in one

province crosses a broad river and enters another province , he demands admission into a lodge , the officers of which well know that he was a Mason , but nevertheless refused him admission . Query . If the brother was morally unfit to visit a lodge , is he a fit person to be a Secretary ; and , if not , should he be permitted to remain in the Order . —P . M .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . TO THE EDITOR OF THE ' FREEMASOXS' MAGAZIXE ___{_} 3 TASOXIC iTIREOE . DEAE SIE AND BEOTHEE . —In your number of July Gth , your correspondent , W . S . L ., put forth several queries , ansAvered by you at some length , with the exception of the lastwhich was originally put

, on page 407 , May 25 th . The omission is probably OAving to the direct reference to myself and Bro . Hughan on the point . I did not reply in the first instance , though I remember noticing it at the time , because I was unwilling to intrude on your space unnecessariland I felt that some one else would be

y , sure to offer an answer ; moreover , the " Book of Constitutions " is explicit on the point . I hold that the only " proper voucher" that can be given is a Grand Lodge certificate , though under some peculiar circumstances one from a private lodge may temporarilv serve the nurnose , but it is often not asked for

from a visitor , as has been the case with me twice during the past week . Aware of the frequent omission , probably OAving to an inexcusable want of familiarity with the Constitutions among the majority of our members when I dreiv up the by-laws for Kb . 958 , 1 inserted an especial one to the effect that no

brother who was not personally vouched for should be admitted without shoAving his certificate , which was confirmed hy the lodge and sanctioned by the Prov . G . M ., thus making it the uniform custom to require a perusal of the certificate of every visitor before proceeding to examine him . This document

by itself does not afford sufficient proof , for I have understood that it is a practice among professional beggars to obtain certificates of deceased Masons , take out the signatures by a chemical process and substitute another , so that there may be no difficulty in case the applicant be required to write his name , with a view to identify the handivriting .

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