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Correspondence.

¦ characterizes the ecclesiastical buildings of the same ¦ era , during the twelfth and following centuries . "We find notice of a society of this kind having for its chief object the restoration of the Cathedral of Glasgow , after it bad been burnt clown in the reign of "William the Lion . It was instituted * by Bishop

Jocelin about the year 1190 , and had a special charter of protection from King William the Lion . " So that is a nut for all the upholders of the Mother Kilwinning ' s pretensions to crack . To say that one of the greatest authorities of the day should have ¦ utterl y overlooked the traditions of the Mother

Kilwinning , ancl mentioned the charter from King "William to the Lodge of St . John is something wonderful . Xet it is truly a sign of the times . But to pass from that I would respectfully ask Bro . Lyon to mention in his next communication to tbe MAGAZINE if any or what portions of the Abbey of Kilwinning which is considered to have been founded about 1140 are still in existence ?

If it would not be asking too much I would ask E . X . if he can tell me who was thef predecessor of the Gilchrist Comite de Menteth who signed a charter ¦ in the 11 th year of Malcolm 4 th r ^ ign to Scone ? also who and what Masters Andrew and Arthur were , who signed the Great Kelso Charter , and their

position at Malcolm 4 th Court ? Answers to the ahove will exceedingly oblige , and are fraternally asked . Xours fraternally , W . P . BUCIIAN [ Though we have every desire to give the subject of the Priority of the Lodge of Glasgow Sfc . John , 3 full ventilation in

No . , our pages , and we have willingly accorded a liberal—perhaps too liberalamount of space to the discussions thereanent , we must really beg that our esteemed correspondents on this head will endeavour to be as terse as possible , and also close the correspondenee on both sides at an early date . —En . F . M . ~ \

H.R .H. Prince Skanderbeg.

H . R . H . PRINCE SKANDERBEG .

TO THE EDITOR OF Till ! FUEEMASOIfS' HAGAZINE AND 3 IASOMTC MIEROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Nothing is further from my intention than to reflect on the eminent firm , consisting of zealous Masons , who addressed you last week ; but when a firm , however eminent , offers itself especially to the Masonic world under the patronage

of H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg , it is not unnatural it should be asked who Prince Skanderbeg is , and where he is now to be found . This is none the less desirable in consequence of their letter , in which it is stated that the firm " have the distinguished honour of holding the appointment of medallists to H . R . H .

Prince Skanderbeg . " The members of that firm have no reason to complain as Masons of the course I have taken , and the more especially as I have stated to them a very good Masonic reason for wishing to know about H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg , and that is , a brother wants to see him . I did not resort to a private application to them , nor do I intend to do so now , as the brother in

H.R .H. Prince Skanderbeg.

question has for years vainly sought the habitat of H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg . There can be no difficulty in stating who Prince Skanderbeg is , and where he lives . A personage so distinguished should have au address . The last I heard of Prince Skanderbeg was in the Paris papers ;

and what I read there makes me the more desirous to know why the firm in question should be medallists to H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg . Until better informed , I must persist in believing that , there is no one entitled to call himself H . E . H . Prince Skanberbeg , any more than to call himself his Majesty King

Skanderbeg , and to give away decorations , titles , and colonelcies . There was once an Iskander Bey , an historical personage , and there are respectable persons who claim alliance with his family ; but what has this to do wifch H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg , under whose

patronage that well-known firm of Masonic jewellers has placed itself ? Now thafc the matter has become more public than I meant , there will not be the least harm in the Masonic public knowing from them who and what H . E-. H . Prince Skanderbeg is , and where he is to be found . Xours fraternally , A * MASON .

What Is Freemasonry.

WHAT IS FREEMASONRY .

10 THE EDITOR OF THE " FREEMASONS * 3 IAGAZIXE AND MASONIC AriRISOH . Dear Sir and Brother , — " A Lover of the Craft wishes to know whafc is " fche tendency of some " ( late ?) " correspondence , " and seems to have no wish to penetrate the Masonic past , content with the teachings of t . he Order . I am afraid that , however benefitting the teachings may heit is of some small

, importance to know a little of their origin , for we are told that the Spirit of Darkness can put in an appearance as an Angel of Light . The brother ' s faith in the Order deserves the greatest credit , however . " 87-83 " wants to know the drift of Bro . Hughan's and my own attacks upon the claims put forth by the

upper degrees for very venerable antiquity . I presume Bro . Hcighau is of a like opinion with myself . If we give facts , " 87-83 " must provide the brains to understand these facts and to follow out our reasonings . He will then know the good to he derived from our attacks .

Bro . H . B . White gravely enunciates the startling doctrine that Freemasonry is Christianity . Will Bro . White point out a single degree recognised by the Grand Lodges of England and Scotland that has anything to do with Christianity ? I trust I am a Christian , but if Freemasonry is Christianity , I can

no longer expect to meet brethren who are Unitarians , Musselmen , Hindoos , Jews , Chinese , < fcc , in a lodge , a circumstance at variance with what I have been taught . I ask , " What is Freemasonry ? " Xours fraternally , ANTHONY ONEAI . HAYE .

Priority Of The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

PRIORITY OF THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AXD MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —The manly letter of Bro . Buehan in your Magazine , page 171 , does him great

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SCOTCH MASONIC LECTURES. Article 1
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 2
CHAPTER VI. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
MASONIC EXCHANGE. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 5
H.R .H. PRINCE SKANDERBEG. Article 7
WHAT IS FREEMASONRY. Article 7
PRIORITY OF THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST. JOHN. Article 7
SOUTH HACKNEY DISTRICT. Article 8
MASONIC MEMS. Article 9
GRAND LODGE. Article 9
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
SCOTLAND. Article 14
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 15
MARK MASONEY. Article 16
RED CROSS KNIGHTS OF CONSTANTINE. Article 16
Obituary. Article 17
REVIEWS. Article 19
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING MARCH 21ST, 1868. Article 20
HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE AND BRO. S. MAY. Article 20
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Correspondence.

¦ characterizes the ecclesiastical buildings of the same ¦ era , during the twelfth and following centuries . "We find notice of a society of this kind having for its chief object the restoration of the Cathedral of Glasgow , after it bad been burnt clown in the reign of "William the Lion . It was instituted * by Bishop

Jocelin about the year 1190 , and had a special charter of protection from King William the Lion . " So that is a nut for all the upholders of the Mother Kilwinning ' s pretensions to crack . To say that one of the greatest authorities of the day should have ¦ utterl y overlooked the traditions of the Mother

Kilwinning , ancl mentioned the charter from King "William to the Lodge of St . John is something wonderful . Xet it is truly a sign of the times . But to pass from that I would respectfully ask Bro . Lyon to mention in his next communication to tbe MAGAZINE if any or what portions of the Abbey of Kilwinning which is considered to have been founded about 1140 are still in existence ?

If it would not be asking too much I would ask E . X . if he can tell me who was thef predecessor of the Gilchrist Comite de Menteth who signed a charter ¦ in the 11 th year of Malcolm 4 th r ^ ign to Scone ? also who and what Masters Andrew and Arthur were , who signed the Great Kelso Charter , and their

position at Malcolm 4 th Court ? Answers to the ahove will exceedingly oblige , and are fraternally asked . Xours fraternally , W . P . BUCIIAN [ Though we have every desire to give the subject of the Priority of the Lodge of Glasgow Sfc . John , 3 full ventilation in

No . , our pages , and we have willingly accorded a liberal—perhaps too liberalamount of space to the discussions thereanent , we must really beg that our esteemed correspondents on this head will endeavour to be as terse as possible , and also close the correspondenee on both sides at an early date . —En . F . M . ~ \

H.R .H. Prince Skanderbeg.

H . R . H . PRINCE SKANDERBEG .

TO THE EDITOR OF Till ! FUEEMASOIfS' HAGAZINE AND 3 IASOMTC MIEROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Nothing is further from my intention than to reflect on the eminent firm , consisting of zealous Masons , who addressed you last week ; but when a firm , however eminent , offers itself especially to the Masonic world under the patronage

of H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg , it is not unnatural it should be asked who Prince Skanderbeg is , and where he is now to be found . This is none the less desirable in consequence of their letter , in which it is stated that the firm " have the distinguished honour of holding the appointment of medallists to H . R . H .

Prince Skanderbeg . " The members of that firm have no reason to complain as Masons of the course I have taken , and the more especially as I have stated to them a very good Masonic reason for wishing to know about H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg , and that is , a brother wants to see him . I did not resort to a private application to them , nor do I intend to do so now , as the brother in

H.R .H. Prince Skanderbeg.

question has for years vainly sought the habitat of H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg . There can be no difficulty in stating who Prince Skanderbeg is , and where he lives . A personage so distinguished should have au address . The last I heard of Prince Skanderbeg was in the Paris papers ;

and what I read there makes me the more desirous to know why the firm in question should be medallists to H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg . Until better informed , I must persist in believing that , there is no one entitled to call himself H . E . H . Prince Skanberbeg , any more than to call himself his Majesty King

Skanderbeg , and to give away decorations , titles , and colonelcies . There was once an Iskander Bey , an historical personage , and there are respectable persons who claim alliance with his family ; but what has this to do wifch H . E . H . Prince Skanderbeg , under whose

patronage that well-known firm of Masonic jewellers has placed itself ? Now thafc the matter has become more public than I meant , there will not be the least harm in the Masonic public knowing from them who and what H . E-. H . Prince Skanderbeg is , and where he is to be found . Xours fraternally , A * MASON .

What Is Freemasonry.

WHAT IS FREEMASONRY .

10 THE EDITOR OF THE " FREEMASONS * 3 IAGAZIXE AND MASONIC AriRISOH . Dear Sir and Brother , — " A Lover of the Craft wishes to know whafc is " fche tendency of some " ( late ?) " correspondence , " and seems to have no wish to penetrate the Masonic past , content with the teachings of t . he Order . I am afraid that , however benefitting the teachings may heit is of some small

, importance to know a little of their origin , for we are told that the Spirit of Darkness can put in an appearance as an Angel of Light . The brother ' s faith in the Order deserves the greatest credit , however . " 87-83 " wants to know the drift of Bro . Hughan's and my own attacks upon the claims put forth by the

upper degrees for very venerable antiquity . I presume Bro . Hcighau is of a like opinion with myself . If we give facts , " 87-83 " must provide the brains to understand these facts and to follow out our reasonings . He will then know the good to he derived from our attacks .

Bro . H . B . White gravely enunciates the startling doctrine that Freemasonry is Christianity . Will Bro . White point out a single degree recognised by the Grand Lodges of England and Scotland that has anything to do with Christianity ? I trust I am a Christian , but if Freemasonry is Christianity , I can

no longer expect to meet brethren who are Unitarians , Musselmen , Hindoos , Jews , Chinese , < fcc , in a lodge , a circumstance at variance with what I have been taught . I ask , " What is Freemasonry ? " Xours fraternally , ANTHONY ONEAI . HAYE .

Priority Of The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

PRIORITY OF THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AXD MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —The manly letter of Bro . Buehan in your Magazine , page 171 , does him great

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