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vorcing science and religion , and wished to establish in this country a morality without religion , he ( the lecturer ) begged to assure him that it had heen done already elsewhere . In China there was a national morality apart from religion . The trial there had not been very successful , and he hoped that John Bull ,

living in this green island of the western sea amid providential provisions and sanctities , would not think of making the experiment . "

MASONIC SNUFF-BOX . TO JHB BDITOB OS IKE EREEHASOXs' MAGAZIKE ASD UASOiTtC StlEEOK . Dear Sir and Brother , —I perceive no one is likely to champion the venerable snuff-box depicted at page 310 . Probably the Masonic virtue , " caution" is

beginning to be more appreciated , or the hump of discrimination is beginning to be more active ; however , as I gave the one side of the box before , I now proceed to give the other side also ; so that when understood , the figures ' 16-69 " are quite right , and speak truly enough to those who understand them . It is an inscription that is engraved on the bottom of the box , and it is as follows : —

Respect me for what I have been , the time was , when'I was a young and hopeful plant of nature ; in the course of years I became tall , and the Birds of the air were happy under my

shadow , and returned their sweetest notes for my protection . By the Hand of man I Was cut down , and stripped of Nature ' s robes , and afterwards became a pillar in the Cathedral of Glasgow , and for upwards of six hundred years H-

ave assisted in supporting it as a refuge to saint and sinner , from the s - tormy troubles of life . But now I am an outcast from the house of God ,

and have become a gazing stock in the Hand of man A - nd part of my remains MADE THIS SNUFF BOX . GLASGOW , JUNE , i 8 G 9 . So we see the date is " June 1869 . "

Turnhow-, , ever , to page 310 , and put a " comma" ( , ) between the 1 and the 6 , aud it will then read the 1 st day of the 6 th month of the year 69 . That agrees , of course , with "June , 1869 . " I know a case of an old Craft box ( Tailor ' s ) which had two dates on it , viz ., on the front " 1658 " and in the interior " 1762 " Nowif

. , either was the date of the box , it could not be both . The solution given , however , was that the old date was that of the institution of the society , and the latter the age of the box . Tours fraternally , F . Q , M .

CARDINAL CULLEN AND FREEMASONS .

10 THE EDITOIt OB THE EIlEESTASOIfS' MAGAZINE AlfD JTASOIflO MIBEOIi . Dear Sir , —The following letter was addressed to the Gloucester Chronicle , and appeared in that journal .

You may deem it advisable to find a space for it in your columns . Tours , & c , | HENET JEITS . "The correspondent of the Timesdating from

, Dublin on the 3 rd of May , says : — 'Cardinal Cullen is as emphatic as ever in his condemnation of secret societies . He puts the Freemasons in tho front rank of these , and strongly censures institutions in which he says that they will obey leaders whom they do not knowand who be very

dan-, may gerous men and command wicked things . . . . He reminds the clergy that the greatest infidel of the last century , Voltaire , was a Freemason , as also were Murat , Danton , Robespierre , and other monsters of iniquity who took part in the French Revolution , and Mazzini and Garibaldi in our own time . ' The

Masonic body can do nothing contrary to the ' Constitutions of the Ancient Fraternity of Free and Accepted Masons , ' which I would recommend for perusal to the Catholic Church . It is not a sealed book . Masters of lodges can do nothing contrary to by-laws framed for their government , and which must

be in accordance with the Book of Constitutions . Provincial Grand Masters are amenable to Grand Lodge . Further , 'if the Grand Master should abuse his power and render himself unworthy of the ohedieuca of the lodges , he shall be subjected to some new regulation to be dictated by the occasion . ' if the Freemasons may be said to have leaders , their infallibility

is not recognised , nor can they ' command wicked things . ' Nor can a Freemason be an infidel ; for , as concerning God and religion , he 'is obliged by his tenure to obey the moral law , and if lie rightly understand the art , he will never be a stupid atheist , or an irreligious libertine . He , of all men , should best

understand that God seeth not as man seeth ; for man looketh at the outward appearance , hut God looketh to the heart .. A Mason is , therefore , particularly bound never to act against the dictates of his conscience . Let a man ' s religion or mode of worship bo what it he is not excluded from tho Order , provided he

may , believe in the glorious Architect of heaven and earth , and practise the sacred duties of morality . ' Quoting again— ' A Mason is a peaceable subject to the civil powers , wherever he resides or works , and is never to be concerned in plots and conspiracies against the peace an 1 welfare of the nation . He is cheerfully to

conform to every lawful authority ; to uphold on every occasion the interest of the community , and zealously promote the prosperity of his own country . Masonry lias ever flourished in times of peace , and been always injured by war , bloodshed , and confuuiou ; so that kings and princes in every age have boon much

disposed to encourage craftsmen on account of their peaceableness and loyalty , ' Lastly , the Catholics have no greater friends than Freemasons , because , whoever may wish to frame laws to put them down , craftsmen teach and practise toleration , being bound by peculiar ties to promote peace and to cultivate

harmony . " I am , Sir , yours obediently , " HE 2 U ! . \ - JlOTS , " Gloucester , May 5 , 1 S 70 . "

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MASONIC PROCESSIONS. Article 4
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 19 Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 10
MASONIC MEMS. Article 11
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR GIRLS. Article 11
Craft Masonry. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 19
ROYAL ARCH. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 21ST MAY, 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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vorcing science and religion , and wished to establish in this country a morality without religion , he ( the lecturer ) begged to assure him that it had heen done already elsewhere . In China there was a national morality apart from religion . The trial there had not been very successful , and he hoped that John Bull ,

living in this green island of the western sea amid providential provisions and sanctities , would not think of making the experiment . "

MASONIC SNUFF-BOX . TO JHB BDITOB OS IKE EREEHASOXs' MAGAZIKE ASD UASOiTtC StlEEOK . Dear Sir and Brother , —I perceive no one is likely to champion the venerable snuff-box depicted at page 310 . Probably the Masonic virtue , " caution" is

beginning to be more appreciated , or the hump of discrimination is beginning to be more active ; however , as I gave the one side of the box before , I now proceed to give the other side also ; so that when understood , the figures ' 16-69 " are quite right , and speak truly enough to those who understand them . It is an inscription that is engraved on the bottom of the box , and it is as follows : —

Respect me for what I have been , the time was , when'I was a young and hopeful plant of nature ; in the course of years I became tall , and the Birds of the air were happy under my

shadow , and returned their sweetest notes for my protection . By the Hand of man I Was cut down , and stripped of Nature ' s robes , and afterwards became a pillar in the Cathedral of Glasgow , and for upwards of six hundred years H-

ave assisted in supporting it as a refuge to saint and sinner , from the s - tormy troubles of life . But now I am an outcast from the house of God ,

and have become a gazing stock in the Hand of man A - nd part of my remains MADE THIS SNUFF BOX . GLASGOW , JUNE , i 8 G 9 . So we see the date is " June 1869 . "

Turnhow-, , ever , to page 310 , and put a " comma" ( , ) between the 1 and the 6 , aud it will then read the 1 st day of the 6 th month of the year 69 . That agrees , of course , with "June , 1869 . " I know a case of an old Craft box ( Tailor ' s ) which had two dates on it , viz ., on the front " 1658 " and in the interior " 1762 " Nowif

. , either was the date of the box , it could not be both . The solution given , however , was that the old date was that of the institution of the society , and the latter the age of the box . Tours fraternally , F . Q , M .

CARDINAL CULLEN AND FREEMASONS .

10 THE EDITOIt OB THE EIlEESTASOIfS' MAGAZINE AlfD JTASOIflO MIBEOIi . Dear Sir , —The following letter was addressed to the Gloucester Chronicle , and appeared in that journal .

You may deem it advisable to find a space for it in your columns . Tours , & c , | HENET JEITS . "The correspondent of the Timesdating from

, Dublin on the 3 rd of May , says : — 'Cardinal Cullen is as emphatic as ever in his condemnation of secret societies . He puts the Freemasons in tho front rank of these , and strongly censures institutions in which he says that they will obey leaders whom they do not knowand who be very

dan-, may gerous men and command wicked things . . . . He reminds the clergy that the greatest infidel of the last century , Voltaire , was a Freemason , as also were Murat , Danton , Robespierre , and other monsters of iniquity who took part in the French Revolution , and Mazzini and Garibaldi in our own time . ' The

Masonic body can do nothing contrary to the ' Constitutions of the Ancient Fraternity of Free and Accepted Masons , ' which I would recommend for perusal to the Catholic Church . It is not a sealed book . Masters of lodges can do nothing contrary to by-laws framed for their government , and which must

be in accordance with the Book of Constitutions . Provincial Grand Masters are amenable to Grand Lodge . Further , 'if the Grand Master should abuse his power and render himself unworthy of the ohedieuca of the lodges , he shall be subjected to some new regulation to be dictated by the occasion . ' if the Freemasons may be said to have leaders , their infallibility

is not recognised , nor can they ' command wicked things . ' Nor can a Freemason be an infidel ; for , as concerning God and religion , he 'is obliged by his tenure to obey the moral law , and if lie rightly understand the art , he will never be a stupid atheist , or an irreligious libertine . He , of all men , should best

understand that God seeth not as man seeth ; for man looketh at the outward appearance , hut God looketh to the heart .. A Mason is , therefore , particularly bound never to act against the dictates of his conscience . Let a man ' s religion or mode of worship bo what it he is not excluded from tho Order , provided he

may , believe in the glorious Architect of heaven and earth , and practise the sacred duties of morality . ' Quoting again— ' A Mason is a peaceable subject to the civil powers , wherever he resides or works , and is never to be concerned in plots and conspiracies against the peace an 1 welfare of the nation . He is cheerfully to

conform to every lawful authority ; to uphold on every occasion the interest of the community , and zealously promote the prosperity of his own country . Masonry lias ever flourished in times of peace , and been always injured by war , bloodshed , and confuuiou ; so that kings and princes in every age have boon much

disposed to encourage craftsmen on account of their peaceableness and loyalty , ' Lastly , the Catholics have no greater friends than Freemasons , because , whoever may wish to frame laws to put them down , craftsmen teach and practise toleration , being bound by peculiar ties to promote peace and to cultivate

harmony . " I am , Sir , yours obediently , " HE 2 U ! . \ - JlOTS , " Gloucester , May 5 , 1 S 70 . "

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