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Grand Lodge Of Mark Masters Of England And Wales,

they would not have leisure to listen to the G . M . ' s oratory , but he might inform them that the G . M . had continued to the benefit of the Mark Degree at all times , and hy coming forward that evening and shewing nil the energy he professed , ho had displayed that energy especially . Drunk with cheers . The M . W . G . M . begged to thank the . D . G . M . and the company , and said it was with great pleasure he had presided on that

occasion , the first of its kind that had been held he believed in Masonry . The brethren of the Mark Degree had been accustomed to show people the way in Masonry , and he hoped they had led the way in introducing- ladies to the banquet table . As the G . M . was very dependent on his officers ; he would propose "Thehealth of the D . G . M ., who had done an immense deal for country Masonry as well ns for London . Sir E . Lechmere : As time was very short be would onlsay

y he thanked the company cordially . They had bad many good things put before thcm-ihat ni ght , but he thought the best things had been said by the ladies , and he hoped that on future occasions they might hear their voices in an oratorical as well as a musical sense . Bro . Hearuo proposed "The Grand Officers , " and the toast having been drunk-, Bro . John Udall responded . The W . M . G . M . proposed "The Grand Mark Benevolent

Fund . " The toast was drunk enthusiastically , and Bro . Binckes read a list of subscriptions amounting to about £ 80 . The M . W . G . M . proposed " The Ladies , " and referred to the legend of the lady who had hid herself in an eight-day clock in a Masonic lodge to obtain the secrets . The ladies had nowemerged from the clock and they told us that the dial of time , so far at any rate as regards Mark Masonry , pointed to the hour of

success . That was owing to their kind presence and support . They all knew that when onee a lady took up an object of affection she stuck to it with tbe greatest tenacity , and he hoped that the ladies having taken up the Benevolent Fund would stick to it , and that they would enlist not only ladies but gentlemen too in its favour . He hoped with Bro . Meggy that another time they would sit down more unanimous than they had that evening . Bro . Henly responded .

_ The M . W . G . M . proposed " The Stewards . " He begged particularly to mention the name of Bro . Rosenthal ! , Bro . Sabine , Bro . Meggy , and Bro . Binckes , and would call on the latter to reply . Bro . Binckes : R . AV . G . M ., Ladies and Brethren , —I rise to return thanks on behalf of a very small body of brethren who have greatly contributed to a gigantic failure—of course , sir , you will not take my words literally . Inmjust quoting what was

said would ho the case if a few sanguine Mark Masons banded themselves together for the purpose of inaugurating a festival for their benevolent fund , and the question was asked , bow would it answer ? I , for myself never had any doubt of its success . Friends , so called , chose to question the possibility of that success . Now , in rising to respond on behalf of a failure ( I am speaking now in a Pickwickian sense ) I must say that if ever a success was achieved under a first experimentthat success

, has been achieved by us to-night . I take no credit for myself ; I ask no credit for Bro . Meggy ; I ask no credit for those few brethren who arc-stewards this evening ; but we felt—a very few of us , that in the Mark degree there was an essential vitalitythat if we held ourselves out to inaugurate a festival of this kind we would make that festival a success . Well , sir , success has an abstract notion attached to it , and a relative comparison . If the

we compare number this evening with the numbers received at onr charity festivals and the results achieved there , it will be said by some that this is a failure . The Mark Degree numbers within itself a certain number of sincere , honest , able , earnest Masons , who are imbued I believe most honestly and sincerely with a thorough appreciation of the value of the degree with which they are associated , and who are determined with

honesty and without rivalry of any other degree , to make the merits of the Mark Degree known throughout the world . We have found there is one thing wanting- —we have had no Benevolent Fund . We have applied to our lodges ; we asked our lodges to consent to have their members , I do not like to say "taxed" —but to have their members consent to a small sum per cent , being put aside for the purpose of founding a fund out of which a Mark Mason in distress , his widow , or his children , could be properly relieved . So large a minority objected to that , that Grand Lodge in its discretion ( and I think perhaps wisely taking into consideration the magnitude of that

minority ) did not persist in the rule . We then made an attempt to get assistance ( without intending to make any reference to politics , I may say , ) by trying tbe voluntary system , and Grand Lodge out of its very great kindness voted a sum of £ 50 . That sum of £ 50 was the sole nucleus we had for our fund , and by the demands made upon it by little and little it has heen really exhausted . You remember , sir , occupying the

distinguished position you do , the observation I made in Grand Lodge at our last meeting . Those observations were not without their effect . This festival has been the first organised to see what the voluntary principle would do . And now , sir , I dare say , many may ask why could not £ 80 have been added to the fund of Grand Lodge of Mark Masons of England for the purpose of relieving our brethren in distress without assembling at a festival like this ? And this recalls to my mind

connected as I am with many of our great charities , an observation made by the late Duke of Newcastle , when I had an interview with him about taking the chair at one of them , — " How is it , Bro . Binckes , that these large amounts of assistance—more especially connected with Masonry—cannot be obtained unless a certain number of brethren with a certain number of ladies are brought together to consume a large amount of bad wine aud eat very had dinners ? " "Well" I said'Tour Graceit is

, , , this , I suppose ; the genius Anglicanus—if I may use the termruns in the direction of festivity . " Now , I am satisfied of this , that we hardly made an attempt to organize this fund by a specird appeal to our lodges , that having been refused ; we have succeeded when we have fallen back on the voluntary principle and endeavoured to enlist private contributions . We then found , to our great delight—and , when I say " our , " I mean , ladies and gentlemen , to include the gentleman who occupies the

distinguished position of our Worshipful Grand Master , and who has made this first attempt to assist our benevolent fund—that we having como here to-night , some 53 of both sexes—to my intense delight aud my intense satisfaction , and , I am sure , with the delight and satisfaction of my Brothers Meggy , Udall , and Rosenthal , who have also aided us—that we have , by au expenditure of 50 guineas , added £ 80 to our Benevolent Fund . Has our evening been expended in vain ? ( No , no . ) We have done this . We have brought together a large number of distinguished

Masons , with those of the softer sex attached to them by the nearest and dearest associations ; we have proved , I think , to the outer world that we can enjoy ourselves in a legitimate manner , as none but Masons probably can do ; and we have banded ourselves together for a holy object . Charity is that holy bond that has brought us together this evening . Have we failed iu our scheme ? ( No . ) Now , M . W . G . M ., I appeal to you if this was not made an experimental meetingthis was to

; be tbe test as to tbe sincerity of Mark Masons— -whether we could support a festival of this kind and make it a successful festival . NQW , sir , on behalf of the Board of Stewards—and this is why I hope you will not fancy my observations not altogether inappropriate—I would say , in the first place , you have met in a room not altogether appropriate or fit for so large a company ; in the secondIdo not believe that our brethren of tbe

, Board of Grand Stewards ever thought we should have numbered 40 , aud if we did , we thought we should liE _ ve achieved a success . The question was whether we should meet 45 . We have met to-night 53 . Had we known it , we would have provided for the large number elsewhere . We had not faith enough — even Bro . Meggy himself—in the Mark Masons and their ladies to assist in increasing their charity funds ; but I believe

most sincerely this—we ought to take a hint from it ; it if : a lesson we shall profit by ; and , distinctly understand this , that if we had known the numbers had been going to be so large we should not have met at the Mitre Hotel to-night . We shall never meet again here , for the simple reason that the host has not the accommodation we shall require . I see now that this is established as an annual success . I say this first meeting is a

great success . I appeal to you whether you have not enjoyed yourselves . We have combined the pleasures ofthe table with the society of the ladies , and wo think ire may naturally congratulate ourselves , as , in addition to enjoying ourselves , we have been adding a larger amount of money to our fund than we can possibly spend in the next 12 months ; and then I look forward to the time with leasurewhen we shall meet in

p , largely increased numbers , and this will always be a red-letter day in Mark Masonry . But , ou behalf of the Grand Stewards , let me ask your kind indulgence and consideration for any- ' shortcomings you may have noticed . We thought that 40 would have been collected here . Nearly 60 have sat down at this table ,

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MASONIC DISCIPLINE.—XVIII. Article 1
BIBLES, &c . Article 3
LODGE MINUTES, ETC.—No. 6. Article 4
FREEMASONRY IN SWEDEN. Article 5
THE EARL OF DALHOUSIE AND THE GRAND MASTERSHIP OF SCOTLAND. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
DECAPITATION OF BRO. MELVILLE. Article 9
MASONIC MEMS Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
SCOTLAND. Article 14
IRELAND. Article 14
CEYLON. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 17
SOUTHERN STAR LODGE (No. 1158). Article 17
GRAND LODGE OF MARK MASTERS OF ENGLAND AND WALES, Article 17
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 19
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 21ST AUGUST, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Grand Lodge Of Mark Masters Of England And Wales,

they would not have leisure to listen to the G . M . ' s oratory , but he might inform them that the G . M . had continued to the benefit of the Mark Degree at all times , and hy coming forward that evening and shewing nil the energy he professed , ho had displayed that energy especially . Drunk with cheers . The M . W . G . M . begged to thank the . D . G . M . and the company , and said it was with great pleasure he had presided on that

occasion , the first of its kind that had been held he believed in Masonry . The brethren of the Mark Degree had been accustomed to show people the way in Masonry , and he hoped they had led the way in introducing- ladies to the banquet table . As the G . M . was very dependent on his officers ; he would propose "Thehealth of the D . G . M ., who had done an immense deal for country Masonry as well ns for London . Sir E . Lechmere : As time was very short be would onlsay

y he thanked the company cordially . They had bad many good things put before thcm-ihat ni ght , but he thought the best things had been said by the ladies , and he hoped that on future occasions they might hear their voices in an oratorical as well as a musical sense . Bro . Hearuo proposed "The Grand Officers , " and the toast having been drunk-, Bro . John Udall responded . The W . M . G . M . proposed "The Grand Mark Benevolent

Fund . " The toast was drunk enthusiastically , and Bro . Binckes read a list of subscriptions amounting to about £ 80 . The M . W . G . M . proposed " The Ladies , " and referred to the legend of the lady who had hid herself in an eight-day clock in a Masonic lodge to obtain the secrets . The ladies had nowemerged from the clock and they told us that the dial of time , so far at any rate as regards Mark Masonry , pointed to the hour of

success . That was owing to their kind presence and support . They all knew that when onee a lady took up an object of affection she stuck to it with tbe greatest tenacity , and he hoped that the ladies having taken up the Benevolent Fund would stick to it , and that they would enlist not only ladies but gentlemen too in its favour . He hoped with Bro . Meggy that another time they would sit down more unanimous than they had that evening . Bro . Henly responded .

_ The M . W . G . M . proposed " The Stewards . " He begged particularly to mention the name of Bro . Rosenthal ! , Bro . Sabine , Bro . Meggy , and Bro . Binckes , and would call on the latter to reply . Bro . Binckes : R . AV . G . M ., Ladies and Brethren , —I rise to return thanks on behalf of a very small body of brethren who have greatly contributed to a gigantic failure—of course , sir , you will not take my words literally . Inmjust quoting what was

said would ho the case if a few sanguine Mark Masons banded themselves together for the purpose of inaugurating a festival for their benevolent fund , and the question was asked , bow would it answer ? I , for myself never had any doubt of its success . Friends , so called , chose to question the possibility of that success . Now , in rising to respond on behalf of a failure ( I am speaking now in a Pickwickian sense ) I must say that if ever a success was achieved under a first experimentthat success

, has been achieved by us to-night . I take no credit for myself ; I ask no credit for Bro . Meggy ; I ask no credit for those few brethren who arc-stewards this evening ; but we felt—a very few of us , that in the Mark degree there was an essential vitalitythat if we held ourselves out to inaugurate a festival of this kind we would make that festival a success . Well , sir , success has an abstract notion attached to it , and a relative comparison . If the

we compare number this evening with the numbers received at onr charity festivals and the results achieved there , it will be said by some that this is a failure . The Mark Degree numbers within itself a certain number of sincere , honest , able , earnest Masons , who are imbued I believe most honestly and sincerely with a thorough appreciation of the value of the degree with which they are associated , and who are determined with

honesty and without rivalry of any other degree , to make the merits of the Mark Degree known throughout the world . We have found there is one thing wanting- —we have had no Benevolent Fund . We have applied to our lodges ; we asked our lodges to consent to have their members , I do not like to say "taxed" —but to have their members consent to a small sum per cent , being put aside for the purpose of founding a fund out of which a Mark Mason in distress , his widow , or his children , could be properly relieved . So large a minority objected to that , that Grand Lodge in its discretion ( and I think perhaps wisely taking into consideration the magnitude of that

minority ) did not persist in the rule . We then made an attempt to get assistance ( without intending to make any reference to politics , I may say , ) by trying tbe voluntary system , and Grand Lodge out of its very great kindness voted a sum of £ 50 . That sum of £ 50 was the sole nucleus we had for our fund , and by the demands made upon it by little and little it has heen really exhausted . You remember , sir , occupying the

distinguished position you do , the observation I made in Grand Lodge at our last meeting . Those observations were not without their effect . This festival has been the first organised to see what the voluntary principle would do . And now , sir , I dare say , many may ask why could not £ 80 have been added to the fund of Grand Lodge of Mark Masons of England for the purpose of relieving our brethren in distress without assembling at a festival like this ? And this recalls to my mind

connected as I am with many of our great charities , an observation made by the late Duke of Newcastle , when I had an interview with him about taking the chair at one of them , — " How is it , Bro . Binckes , that these large amounts of assistance—more especially connected with Masonry—cannot be obtained unless a certain number of brethren with a certain number of ladies are brought together to consume a large amount of bad wine aud eat very had dinners ? " "Well" I said'Tour Graceit is

, , , this , I suppose ; the genius Anglicanus—if I may use the termruns in the direction of festivity . " Now , I am satisfied of this , that we hardly made an attempt to organize this fund by a specird appeal to our lodges , that having been refused ; we have succeeded when we have fallen back on the voluntary principle and endeavoured to enlist private contributions . We then found , to our great delight—and , when I say " our , " I mean , ladies and gentlemen , to include the gentleman who occupies the

distinguished position of our Worshipful Grand Master , and who has made this first attempt to assist our benevolent fund—that we having como here to-night , some 53 of both sexes—to my intense delight aud my intense satisfaction , and , I am sure , with the delight and satisfaction of my Brothers Meggy , Udall , and Rosenthal , who have also aided us—that we have , by au expenditure of 50 guineas , added £ 80 to our Benevolent Fund . Has our evening been expended in vain ? ( No , no . ) We have done this . We have brought together a large number of distinguished

Masons , with those of the softer sex attached to them by the nearest and dearest associations ; we have proved , I think , to the outer world that we can enjoy ourselves in a legitimate manner , as none but Masons probably can do ; and we have banded ourselves together for a holy object . Charity is that holy bond that has brought us together this evening . Have we failed iu our scheme ? ( No . ) Now , M . W . G . M ., I appeal to you if this was not made an experimental meetingthis was to

; be tbe test as to tbe sincerity of Mark Masons— -whether we could support a festival of this kind and make it a successful festival . NQW , sir , on behalf of the Board of Stewards—and this is why I hope you will not fancy my observations not altogether inappropriate—I would say , in the first place , you have met in a room not altogether appropriate or fit for so large a company ; in the secondIdo not believe that our brethren of tbe

, Board of Grand Stewards ever thought we should have numbered 40 , aud if we did , we thought we should liE _ ve achieved a success . The question was whether we should meet 45 . We have met to-night 53 . Had we known it , we would have provided for the large number elsewhere . We had not faith enough — even Bro . Meggy himself—in the Mark Masons and their ladies to assist in increasing their charity funds ; but I believe

most sincerely this—we ought to take a hint from it ; it if : a lesson we shall profit by ; and , distinctly understand this , that if we had known the numbers had been going to be so large we should not have met at the Mitre Hotel to-night . We shall never meet again here , for the simple reason that the host has not the accommodation we shall require . I see now that this is established as an annual success . I say this first meeting is a

great success . I appeal to you whether you have not enjoyed yourselves . We have combined the pleasures ofthe table with the society of the ladies , and wo think ire may naturally congratulate ourselves , as , in addition to enjoying ourselves , we have been adding a larger amount of money to our fund than we can possibly spend in the next 12 months ; and then I look forward to the time with leasurewhen we shall meet in

p , largely increased numbers , and this will always be a red-letter day in Mark Masonry . But , ou behalf of the Grand Stewards , let me ask your kind indulgence and consideration for any- ' shortcomings you may have noticed . We thought that 40 would have been collected here . Nearly 60 have sat down at this table ,

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