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chapel where they can groan to their hearts content at every sentence that p leases them . They will sing their hymns before the bier , for miles and miles , and when the body is consigned to the grave , gallop away by hundreds as if pursued by demons . Is it such men that become Freemasons ? The assertion is so supremely ridiculous as not to require an answer . But

ifc is these people that become Mormons . One more word with Mr . Mainwaring . It is as certain as the sky above ns , that Freemasonry , as a system of brotherhood , is older than Christianity ; but it is equally certain that no brother ever yet wrote , or said , it was superior . Setting aside what are called the Christian degrees of Freemasonry , ifc is essentially Christian in its forms , aphorisms ,

and practice ; and every member of the Anglican Church , if admitted into the Order , would be as able , aye , and as willing , to adore his Saviour , in the great eucharistic sacrifice , as Mr . Townshcnd Mainwaring , and it is hoped wifch more of thafc Christian charity and universal brotherly love . I am , dear sir and brother , yours truly and fraternally , MATTHEW COOKE , K . T . ; S . P . E . > J ( .

[ AVe have also received a letter upon the subject from Bro . G . M . Tweddell , which ifc is unnecessary to print . Our impression of to-day contains a report of the proceedings at tho consecration , extracted from a local paper . Ifc will bo seen thafc the stone was laid by the Hon . Mrs . Eowlcy , tho Prov . G . M . and brethren of North AVales assisting in the ceremony . ]

Bro. Peter, And A Lover Of Regularity.

BRO . PETER , AND A LOVER OF REGULARITY .

TO THE EDITOlt Otf THE EREEAT . ISOXS 3 TAGAZIXE AXD MASONIC iTIRnOE . DEAE SIR AND BEOTHER , —As a faithful conservator of the rites and ceremonies handed down to us by our saint ed predecessors ( if you will allow me ) I must emphatically protest against the language used by Bro . Peter , when he charges his brethren with " playing at being Sir Knts . " From the stylo of his letter I must acquit him of intended

discourtesy , and supjrose he is ignorant only of the claims of tho Templars to honourable distinctions . Perhaps the following , intended to apply to the Order generally , from Mill ' s History of Chivalry , will have more weight with him than anything I can advance : — " The very Ancient Sovereign Order of the Temple is now in full and chivalric existencelike those Orders of Knighthoodwhich

, , were either formed in imitation of it or had their origin in the same noble principles of chivalry . It has mourned as well as flourished , but there is in its nature and constitution a principle of vitality which has carried it through all the storms of fate ; its continuance by representatives as well as hy title is as indisputable a fact as the existence of any other chivalric fraternity . The Templars of these days claim no titular rankyet their station is so far identified

, with that of the other Orders of Knighthood , that they assert equal purity of descent , from the same bright source of chivalry ; nor is it possible to impugn the legitimate claims to honourable estimation which the modern brethren of the Temple derive from the antiquity and pristine lustre of the Order , Avithout at the same time shaking to its centre the AA-hole venerable fabric of knightly honour . "

To this I have only to add that the legitimacy of the present body in England is undoubted , tho Duke of Sussex ( in addition to his election by that body ) having held the office of Grand Prior of the Knights of Malta ( then in England united wifch tho Templars ) from the Emperor of Russia , the Grand Master of that Order , and the office of Grand Prior of the Templars , from Admiral Sir S ydney

Smith , who was at that time Grand Master of the Order of the Temple . Although Bro . Peter and myself must " agree to differ " on the higher degrees , I am at least glad he expresses exactly my own opinion on the Craft degrees , and can only add , to what he states , my regret that the Grand Lodge does not pass a law to render occasional lectures on the avowed

pursuits of Freemasonry compulsory . Freedom of discussion is now the order ofthe day , though apparently to bo denied to " Essayists and Reviewers . " Allow me therefore a word here with " A Lover of Regularity . " I had commenced to congratulate myself that our Grand Conclave ivas showing symptoms of inquiry , which might end in our getting rid " of a quantity of modern innovations . Permit me to call his attention to a list of such

Bro. Peter, And A Lover Of Regularity.

of the ancient Officers of the Temple as I have been able to find arranged , as far as possible , according to rank : — Great or Grand Master . Seneschal ( his representative ) . Marshal ( General of the Order ) . Treasurer and Admiral . Draper .

Guardian of fche portable Chapel of War . Visitors . Turcopilai- ( Commander of the light horse , or serving brethren ) . Sub-Marshal | appointed by the Marshal , and generally Standard Bearer J conferred on serving brethren . Farrier ( and also Armourer ) . Cook , Smiths , and Bakers , " ) , ,, Preceptors of the MaresCows & cj sorvm =

brethl'en-, ,, II . Great Prior ( who had similar officers , and under these ) . Priors or Bailiffs ( provincial district inspectors ) . House Preceptors ( corresponding to E . C ) . I do nofc agree with the appointments named by "A Lover of Regularity , " because I think the name D . G . M . shonld have been changed to Seneschal ( though there can be little

objection to a Deputy G . M . being appointed as well ) , and those of the Captains to Marshal and Admiral , or Marshal and Sub-Marshal . If ifc is absolutely necessary , however , to make as many offices as possible , there are still several inferior ones , above given , to be disposed of . With respect to precedent , I should consider it the duty of the Heralds to attend to arms and precedents , and .

brethren of sufficient research should be appointed to fill those offices creditably to themselves and the Order . Ifc would be an important movement if we could get other Templar governments to appoint representatives with us , to adopt , as far as possible , a uniform list of officers , mode of government , code of laws , & c , but scarcely expect any one taking thafc interest in the Order .

With , many apologies for so far trespassing upon your valuable space , which I trust you will overlook , I remain , Dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , June 8 fch , 1861 . P . M ., P . Z ., & c .

Knights Templar.

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR .

TO THE EDITOE OP THE EKEEAIASOItS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIKEOE . DEAE SIE ANB BEOTHEE , —In reply to Sir Knt . Matthew Cooke , I beg to say that the last document quoted by him is a former " Summons of the Chapter of Observance , " now called Encampment of Observance , of which I have several blank forms of consecutive dates ; the circulars for the June meetings are worded somewhat different , the R . > £ * .

being held at that meeting , and to which the Sir Knts . were especially summoned by the distinctive mark being placed in the corner copies of which I also have . In some late numbers of tho MAGAZINE ifc was asked whether H . E . H . tho late Duke of Sussex was a Knfc . Templar . I therefore send you notice of a meeting of the Chapter of Observancehold on February 19 th 1821 at Freemasons '

, , , Hall , which I think may prove interesting : — "The chapter was consecrated in due form . Present : —Sir Knts . James Henry Deacon , E . C . ; John Hamsbottom , M . P ., 1 st . Capt . ; Major M . J . Syinons , 2 nd Capt . ; Capt . James Deans , Treas . ; Joseph Conder , llegr . ; Major George . S . W . Ogg , 1 st Standard-bearer ; George . Wane , 2 nd Standard-bearer ; Kev . AVilliam Fallofield , Prelate ; Hon . AVilliam Twistleton 1 st Sword-bearerCharles

, ; Simpson , 1 st Herald ; John AVaterhouse , 2 nd Herald ; W . J . De Buck , M . C . ; Dr . A . B . Granville , Hospitaller ; J . C . Burckhardt , P . E . C . and G . S . P . O . ; J . J . Moore , P . E . C .,- Sir Frederick Fowke , Bart . ; Rev . J . II . Skrine , P . P . '; Simon M . Gillivray , J . S . Hutchinson , James Hutchinson , Henry Heath , Harry Cooke , M . M . Zachary , J . A . Frampton . Alsitors : —The Itight . Hon . Lord Montforfc , John Bott , William Shadbolt , William Linby , AV . H . White . "

I now extract from tho minutes : — "Comp . Ilichard Percival , jun ., having been balloted for and unanimously approved at the meeting of the chapter , in January last , was introduced by tho proper officer , and the ceremony of installation ivas proceeding , AA-hcn the chapter was informed that His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex , Most Eminent Grand Commander of the Order ( ivho had previously signified his intention

of being present ) ivas arrived . H . R . H . ivas immediately attended by Sir Knts . the Right Hon . Lord Montfort , Major General Ogg , J . J . Moore , P . E . C , and J . C . Burckhardt , P . E . C , and entered the chapter , preceded by Sir Knts . J . W . De Buck as M . C . ; J . J . Moore ,

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FREEMASONRY IN THE UNITED STATES. Article 1
ON SYMBOLS AS APPLIED TO MASONIC INSTRUCTION.* Article 2
MEMOIRS OF THE FREEMASONS OF NAPLES. Article 4
STRAY THOUGHTS ABOUT BOOKS. Article 5
ARCHITECTURE AND ARCHÆOLOGY. Article 6
GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL INTELLIGENCE. Article 9
INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION OF 1862. Article 9
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 10
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 11
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
BRO. PETER, AND A LOVER OF REGULARITY. Article 13
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 13
ROYAL BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION FOR AGED MASONS AND THEIR WIDOWS. Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
NETHERLANDS. Article 18
Fine Arts. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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chapel where they can groan to their hearts content at every sentence that p leases them . They will sing their hymns before the bier , for miles and miles , and when the body is consigned to the grave , gallop away by hundreds as if pursued by demons . Is it such men that become Freemasons ? The assertion is so supremely ridiculous as not to require an answer . But

ifc is these people that become Mormons . One more word with Mr . Mainwaring . It is as certain as the sky above ns , that Freemasonry , as a system of brotherhood , is older than Christianity ; but it is equally certain that no brother ever yet wrote , or said , it was superior . Setting aside what are called the Christian degrees of Freemasonry , ifc is essentially Christian in its forms , aphorisms ,

and practice ; and every member of the Anglican Church , if admitted into the Order , would be as able , aye , and as willing , to adore his Saviour , in the great eucharistic sacrifice , as Mr . Townshcnd Mainwaring , and it is hoped wifch more of thafc Christian charity and universal brotherly love . I am , dear sir and brother , yours truly and fraternally , MATTHEW COOKE , K . T . ; S . P . E . > J ( .

[ AVe have also received a letter upon the subject from Bro . G . M . Tweddell , which ifc is unnecessary to print . Our impression of to-day contains a report of the proceedings at tho consecration , extracted from a local paper . Ifc will bo seen thafc the stone was laid by the Hon . Mrs . Eowlcy , tho Prov . G . M . and brethren of North AVales assisting in the ceremony . ]

Bro. Peter, And A Lover Of Regularity.

BRO . PETER , AND A LOVER OF REGULARITY .

TO THE EDITOlt Otf THE EREEAT . ISOXS 3 TAGAZIXE AXD MASONIC iTIRnOE . DEAE SIR AND BEOTHER , —As a faithful conservator of the rites and ceremonies handed down to us by our saint ed predecessors ( if you will allow me ) I must emphatically protest against the language used by Bro . Peter , when he charges his brethren with " playing at being Sir Knts . " From the stylo of his letter I must acquit him of intended

discourtesy , and supjrose he is ignorant only of the claims of tho Templars to honourable distinctions . Perhaps the following , intended to apply to the Order generally , from Mill ' s History of Chivalry , will have more weight with him than anything I can advance : — " The very Ancient Sovereign Order of the Temple is now in full and chivalric existencelike those Orders of Knighthoodwhich

, , were either formed in imitation of it or had their origin in the same noble principles of chivalry . It has mourned as well as flourished , but there is in its nature and constitution a principle of vitality which has carried it through all the storms of fate ; its continuance by representatives as well as hy title is as indisputable a fact as the existence of any other chivalric fraternity . The Templars of these days claim no titular rankyet their station is so far identified

, with that of the other Orders of Knighthood , that they assert equal purity of descent , from the same bright source of chivalry ; nor is it possible to impugn the legitimate claims to honourable estimation which the modern brethren of the Temple derive from the antiquity and pristine lustre of the Order , Avithout at the same time shaking to its centre the AA-hole venerable fabric of knightly honour . "

To this I have only to add that the legitimacy of the present body in England is undoubted , tho Duke of Sussex ( in addition to his election by that body ) having held the office of Grand Prior of the Knights of Malta ( then in England united wifch tho Templars ) from the Emperor of Russia , the Grand Master of that Order , and the office of Grand Prior of the Templars , from Admiral Sir S ydney

Smith , who was at that time Grand Master of the Order of the Temple . Although Bro . Peter and myself must " agree to differ " on the higher degrees , I am at least glad he expresses exactly my own opinion on the Craft degrees , and can only add , to what he states , my regret that the Grand Lodge does not pass a law to render occasional lectures on the avowed

pursuits of Freemasonry compulsory . Freedom of discussion is now the order ofthe day , though apparently to bo denied to " Essayists and Reviewers . " Allow me therefore a word here with " A Lover of Regularity . " I had commenced to congratulate myself that our Grand Conclave ivas showing symptoms of inquiry , which might end in our getting rid " of a quantity of modern innovations . Permit me to call his attention to a list of such

Bro. Peter, And A Lover Of Regularity.

of the ancient Officers of the Temple as I have been able to find arranged , as far as possible , according to rank : — Great or Grand Master . Seneschal ( his representative ) . Marshal ( General of the Order ) . Treasurer and Admiral . Draper .

Guardian of fche portable Chapel of War . Visitors . Turcopilai- ( Commander of the light horse , or serving brethren ) . Sub-Marshal | appointed by the Marshal , and generally Standard Bearer J conferred on serving brethren . Farrier ( and also Armourer ) . Cook , Smiths , and Bakers , " ) , ,, Preceptors of the MaresCows & cj sorvm =

brethl'en-, ,, II . Great Prior ( who had similar officers , and under these ) . Priors or Bailiffs ( provincial district inspectors ) . House Preceptors ( corresponding to E . C ) . I do nofc agree with the appointments named by "A Lover of Regularity , " because I think the name D . G . M . shonld have been changed to Seneschal ( though there can be little

objection to a Deputy G . M . being appointed as well ) , and those of the Captains to Marshal and Admiral , or Marshal and Sub-Marshal . If ifc is absolutely necessary , however , to make as many offices as possible , there are still several inferior ones , above given , to be disposed of . With respect to precedent , I should consider it the duty of the Heralds to attend to arms and precedents , and .

brethren of sufficient research should be appointed to fill those offices creditably to themselves and the Order . Ifc would be an important movement if we could get other Templar governments to appoint representatives with us , to adopt , as far as possible , a uniform list of officers , mode of government , code of laws , & c , but scarcely expect any one taking thafc interest in the Order .

With , many apologies for so far trespassing upon your valuable space , which I trust you will overlook , I remain , Dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , June 8 fch , 1861 . P . M ., P . Z ., & c .

Knights Templar.

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR .

TO THE EDITOE OP THE EKEEAIASOItS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIKEOE . DEAE SIE ANB BEOTHEE , —In reply to Sir Knt . Matthew Cooke , I beg to say that the last document quoted by him is a former " Summons of the Chapter of Observance , " now called Encampment of Observance , of which I have several blank forms of consecutive dates ; the circulars for the June meetings are worded somewhat different , the R . > £ * .

being held at that meeting , and to which the Sir Knts . were especially summoned by the distinctive mark being placed in the corner copies of which I also have . In some late numbers of tho MAGAZINE ifc was asked whether H . E . H . tho late Duke of Sussex was a Knfc . Templar . I therefore send you notice of a meeting of the Chapter of Observancehold on February 19 th 1821 at Freemasons '

, , , Hall , which I think may prove interesting : — "The chapter was consecrated in due form . Present : —Sir Knts . James Henry Deacon , E . C . ; John Hamsbottom , M . P ., 1 st . Capt . ; Major M . J . Syinons , 2 nd Capt . ; Capt . James Deans , Treas . ; Joseph Conder , llegr . ; Major George . S . W . Ogg , 1 st Standard-bearer ; George . Wane , 2 nd Standard-bearer ; Kev . AVilliam Fallofield , Prelate ; Hon . AVilliam Twistleton 1 st Sword-bearerCharles

, ; Simpson , 1 st Herald ; John AVaterhouse , 2 nd Herald ; W . J . De Buck , M . C . ; Dr . A . B . Granville , Hospitaller ; J . C . Burckhardt , P . E . C . and G . S . P . O . ; J . J . Moore , P . E . C .,- Sir Frederick Fowke , Bart . ; Rev . J . II . Skrine , P . P . '; Simon M . Gillivray , J . S . Hutchinson , James Hutchinson , Henry Heath , Harry Cooke , M . M . Zachary , J . A . Frampton . Alsitors : —The Itight . Hon . Lord Montforfc , John Bott , William Shadbolt , William Linby , AV . H . White . "

I now extract from tho minutes : — "Comp . Ilichard Percival , jun ., having been balloted for and unanimously approved at the meeting of the chapter , in January last , was introduced by tho proper officer , and the ceremony of installation ivas proceeding , AA-hcn the chapter was informed that His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex , Most Eminent Grand Commander of the Order ( ivho had previously signified his intention

of being present ) ivas arrived . H . R . H . ivas immediately attended by Sir Knts . the Right Hon . Lord Montfort , Major General Ogg , J . J . Moore , P . E . C , and J . C . Burckhardt , P . E . C , and entered the chapter , preceded by Sir Knts . J . W . De Buck as M . C . ; J . J . Moore ,

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