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to refreshment ) , pile drivers in this district were seated during the operation , which was performed in course of refreshment , but only when the toast drank to was one meriting more than ordinary honour . There was no joining of hands ; each brother piled for himself , the hands and feet moving up and down in unison with the time given bthe Masterwhose

y , caprice also regulated the duration of the ceremony . The importers of the custom alluded to designated themselves "high" Masons , and in reply to queries as to what connection it bore to FreemasonTy , said it referred to the driving of piles necessary in the formation of the viaduct connecting the Temple with

Mount Zion . The existence of such a bridge is , if we remember rightly , noticed by Josephus ; but supposing it to be the case that in order to the completion of the fabric in question piles had to be driven in the valley ( Tyropceon ) spanned by the bridge , where , in the history , traditions , or symbolism of

Freemasonry , do we find " driving piles " associated with its rites ? Echo answers "Where ? " As to " shocks , " these , in former times in the west of Scotland , were practised by brethren who found amusement in the shocking treatment to which candidates were subjected at initiation , and are , we presume ,

referred to in old diplomas as among the " wonderful ! tryalls" which all had to sustain ere the topmost round in the mystic ladder was reached . The shock experienced by the candidate on entrance was mild compared with that received by the F . C . in the tragic encounter which preceded his raising . —D . MURRAY LYON .

THE POSITIYISTS . A correspondent makes two inquiries : the first relates to an alleged improvement ( of late ) in the philosophy of the Positivists . The next relates to their present notions of the Deity . Passages from Professor Paul Janets' little hook , " La Crise Philohi

sopque , " published last year furnish apt answers to these inquiries . First inquiry : — "II est juste de reconnaitre que la Philosophie Positive s ' est beaueoup amelioree dans ces derniers temps . " Next inquiry , " Tantot les Positivistes se contentent de dire que J'homme ne peut rien savoir des causes premieres et

des causes finales ; tantot ils nient toute cause premiere ( en dehors du monde ) et toute cause finale . Tantot il semble que , pour eux , Dieu soit un ineonnu , qui echappe a toute definition et a , toute determination scientifique ( ce qui n ' en exclut pas la possibilite ) ; tantot ils declarent expressement ' il n'a

qu y rien en dehors de la Nature et de ses lois . " My correspondent may consult my communication , " Positivism and Freemasonry , " FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE , Vol . XII ., page 57 . —CHARLES PURTON COOPER .

WHAT DOES IT MEAN ? The following extraordinary letter appeared in the Scottish Freemasons' Magazine for this month . —J . KINGSTON . Hohart Town , Tasmania , 23 rd March , I 860 .

'Sir , —For some time past my friends have endeavoured to draw the attention of the Grand Lodge of Scotland to certain Masonic discoveries made by me during the last thirty-five years ; but their letters , as well as my own , have met with silence , no notice whatever having been taken of the communications .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

From the tenour of the Avritings in your magazine , it is evident the Order generally is desirous of information . It is an admitted fact , that the Masonic mysteries are lost , and that it would be beneficial to the Order could the brethren re-discover them . I am in possession of them , but it is supposed , because I am in the AntipodesI cannot by means know

, any anything respecting the great northern lights of Masonry . Persons in England not connected with the Order , having heard of my Masonic discoveries , have sent for me desiring my attendance in London . I have consented to visit them conditionally , that all my

expenses are paid , and that before divulging the Masonic mysteries to the public , I am to offer them to one of the grand [ lodges in Great Britain , and should the brethren refuse them , then it will have to be decided in what manner they are to be dealt with . _ The knowledge was not communicated to me Masonically ,

and therefore I am not bound by any obligation , and can reveal the secrets if I think proper . As a Mason , however , I am induced to oiler the knowledge to the Order , and if the mysteries are preserved among intellectual brethren , then will Masonry be regenerated to [ its former standing , causing its leaders to be ' the

chiefs of enlightened men , ' and rulers of the world . I have just addressed a letter on the subject to the Grand Secretary of Scotland . I shall probably arrive in England a month or so after this reaches you , and will write to you ; in the meantime , make what use you think proper of this letter . Your humble servant , HENRY MELVILLE .

FINDEL S HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY . Is this work considered reliable by the Craft ? I have observed a great many errors in it . In this month ' s number of the Scottish Freemasons' Magazine we read as follows : — " The same work ( ' Findel's History ' ) informs us that in 1 S 61 they ( the Freemasons

of Scotland ) even so far lowered themselves as to introduce the Adoptive Masonry , invented by Bro . Eobt . Morris , in Louisville , and were not ashamed to intrude an exclusive degree for women , the ' Eastern Star . '" Can any of our readers inform us where this degree is wrought ?" J . KINGSTON .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

TheJZditor is not responsible for the opinions expressed hy Correspondents . IS ME . CHARLES DICKENS A MASON ?

10 THE EDITOIt OB THE TREEMASOXS' MAGAZIXE AITD HASOUIC MIHROE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —A correspondent inquires in your last impression but one if Mr . Charles Dickens is a member of our ancient Fraternity . Not to my knowledge , but his brother the late Alfred Lamert Dickens was initiated in the Universal Lodge , 181 then 212 in April 1865 and continued a

mem-, , , ber thereof until his decease , which occurred during the time he accepted the position of "W \ M . of that lodge . Two of his children have been placed in the Eoyal Freemasons' School for Female Children . Yours faithfully and fraternally , COENEB STONE .

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THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 8
METROPOLITAN. Article 8
PROVINCIAL. Article 8
ROYAL ARCH. Article 11
MARK MASONRY. Article 11
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
INDIA. Article 15
MASONIC STATISTICS. Article 17
REVIEWS. Article 17
Poetry. Article 18
MEETINGS OF THE SCIENTIFIC AND LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING JUNE 22ND, 1866. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

to refreshment ) , pile drivers in this district were seated during the operation , which was performed in course of refreshment , but only when the toast drank to was one meriting more than ordinary honour . There was no joining of hands ; each brother piled for himself , the hands and feet moving up and down in unison with the time given bthe Masterwhose

y , caprice also regulated the duration of the ceremony . The importers of the custom alluded to designated themselves "high" Masons , and in reply to queries as to what connection it bore to FreemasonTy , said it referred to the driving of piles necessary in the formation of the viaduct connecting the Temple with

Mount Zion . The existence of such a bridge is , if we remember rightly , noticed by Josephus ; but supposing it to be the case that in order to the completion of the fabric in question piles had to be driven in the valley ( Tyropceon ) spanned by the bridge , where , in the history , traditions , or symbolism of

Freemasonry , do we find " driving piles " associated with its rites ? Echo answers "Where ? " As to " shocks , " these , in former times in the west of Scotland , were practised by brethren who found amusement in the shocking treatment to which candidates were subjected at initiation , and are , we presume ,

referred to in old diplomas as among the " wonderful ! tryalls" which all had to sustain ere the topmost round in the mystic ladder was reached . The shock experienced by the candidate on entrance was mild compared with that received by the F . C . in the tragic encounter which preceded his raising . —D . MURRAY LYON .

THE POSITIYISTS . A correspondent makes two inquiries : the first relates to an alleged improvement ( of late ) in the philosophy of the Positivists . The next relates to their present notions of the Deity . Passages from Professor Paul Janets' little hook , " La Crise Philohi

sopque , " published last year furnish apt answers to these inquiries . First inquiry : — "II est juste de reconnaitre que la Philosophie Positive s ' est beaueoup amelioree dans ces derniers temps . " Next inquiry , " Tantot les Positivistes se contentent de dire que J'homme ne peut rien savoir des causes premieres et

des causes finales ; tantot ils nient toute cause premiere ( en dehors du monde ) et toute cause finale . Tantot il semble que , pour eux , Dieu soit un ineonnu , qui echappe a toute definition et a , toute determination scientifique ( ce qui n ' en exclut pas la possibilite ) ; tantot ils declarent expressement ' il n'a

qu y rien en dehors de la Nature et de ses lois . " My correspondent may consult my communication , " Positivism and Freemasonry , " FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE , Vol . XII ., page 57 . —CHARLES PURTON COOPER .

WHAT DOES IT MEAN ? The following extraordinary letter appeared in the Scottish Freemasons' Magazine for this month . —J . KINGSTON . Hohart Town , Tasmania , 23 rd March , I 860 .

'Sir , —For some time past my friends have endeavoured to draw the attention of the Grand Lodge of Scotland to certain Masonic discoveries made by me during the last thirty-five years ; but their letters , as well as my own , have met with silence , no notice whatever having been taken of the communications .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

From the tenour of the Avritings in your magazine , it is evident the Order generally is desirous of information . It is an admitted fact , that the Masonic mysteries are lost , and that it would be beneficial to the Order could the brethren re-discover them . I am in possession of them , but it is supposed , because I am in the AntipodesI cannot by means know

, any anything respecting the great northern lights of Masonry . Persons in England not connected with the Order , having heard of my Masonic discoveries , have sent for me desiring my attendance in London . I have consented to visit them conditionally , that all my

expenses are paid , and that before divulging the Masonic mysteries to the public , I am to offer them to one of the grand [ lodges in Great Britain , and should the brethren refuse them , then it will have to be decided in what manner they are to be dealt with . _ The knowledge was not communicated to me Masonically ,

and therefore I am not bound by any obligation , and can reveal the secrets if I think proper . As a Mason , however , I am induced to oiler the knowledge to the Order , and if the mysteries are preserved among intellectual brethren , then will Masonry be regenerated to [ its former standing , causing its leaders to be ' the

chiefs of enlightened men , ' and rulers of the world . I have just addressed a letter on the subject to the Grand Secretary of Scotland . I shall probably arrive in England a month or so after this reaches you , and will write to you ; in the meantime , make what use you think proper of this letter . Your humble servant , HENRY MELVILLE .

FINDEL S HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY . Is this work considered reliable by the Craft ? I have observed a great many errors in it . In this month ' s number of the Scottish Freemasons' Magazine we read as follows : — " The same work ( ' Findel's History ' ) informs us that in 1 S 61 they ( the Freemasons

of Scotland ) even so far lowered themselves as to introduce the Adoptive Masonry , invented by Bro . Eobt . Morris , in Louisville , and were not ashamed to intrude an exclusive degree for women , the ' Eastern Star . '" Can any of our readers inform us where this degree is wrought ?" J . KINGSTON .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

TheJZditor is not responsible for the opinions expressed hy Correspondents . IS ME . CHARLES DICKENS A MASON ?

10 THE EDITOIt OB THE TREEMASOXS' MAGAZIXE AITD HASOUIC MIHROE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —A correspondent inquires in your last impression but one if Mr . Charles Dickens is a member of our ancient Fraternity . Not to my knowledge , but his brother the late Alfred Lamert Dickens was initiated in the Universal Lodge , 181 then 212 in April 1865 and continued a

mem-, , , ber thereof until his decease , which occurred during the time he accepted the position of "W \ M . of that lodge . Two of his children have been placed in the Eoyal Freemasons' School for Female Children . Yours faithfully and fraternally , COENEB STONE .

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