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Freemasonry In Denmark.

of a visitor whom they were , ancl he believed they always would , be pleased to see amongst them one whom they must acknowledge as representing the Grand Loclge of England , viz ., Bro . John Denton , of Leeds . He then called upon the brethren to assist him in giving Bro . D . the usual Masonic hearty

welcome . Bro . D ., in responding on behalf of the Grand Lodge of England and himself , stated it was highly gratifying to him to be present on such an unusual occasion . Probably no brother now here would be able to assist at another such festival . For the euloium paid to the Grand Lodge of England , Bro . D .

g thanked the W . M . and the brethren for the high comp liment to it ; and as British institutions were the pioneers of great and good works , so he trusted would all those be good and wise who trod in their steps . As time was fast advancing , and the banqueting hall was awaiting their presence to partake of the good

things provided for them , he would not detain them by any lengthy remarks , but there was one circumstance which had come to his knowledge that evening , and which he considered it his bounden duty to bring before their notice—a circumstance which appeared to him so vital to the whole Masonic body that he

could not refrain from dwelling upon the subject , and without further preface . Some three or four years ago an initiation took place in this loclge . The brother received a certificate , travelled to America , was never able to obtain admission into a lodge , although

armed with a proper certificate . Ancl why was he not able to get admission into a loclge ? Because , according to this system , the initiate receives the word in the 2 nd . According to the practice in England , America , India , China , Japan , Australia , the Cape , and and some parts of Europe , & c , and the initiate ' s certificate shows him to be only an initiate , although by

his actions it would appear that he was already advanced to the 2 nd , apparently demonstrating him to be an impostor . We as Masons state that Freemasonry is universal ; if so , then the S ' s , T ' s , and W ' s should be one and the same throughout the habitable globe . Bro . D . then entreated their Grand Lodge

and those working under this constitution to commence in good earnest to adopt the English system of S ' s , T ' s , and W ' s . As they all would acknowledge , Freemasonry was transplanted from England to the Continent during the last century—to some kingdoms earlier than others . He would ask how it was that

this dissimilarity arose ? Why it arose partly in this manne . Just one person , then another , introduced a system of working according to his fancy . Adherents were , hence the different systems arose . He would state in Hamburg alone there were tliree different systems worked ; and in conclusion thanked them for

their kind indulgence in paying such marked attention to his remarks . The lodge was then closed by uniting in one unbroken chain .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

Notes and Queries of Inst week contains several items relating to Masonry and kindred subjects , which we reproduce .- — MASCOTS' 3 IAEKS . At the last meeting of the Suisse Romande Historic

Society , held at Lausanne on the Oth . Tune , an interesting paper was read on this subject . A number of sketches were produced , taken from old houses at Geneva and in Savoy , & c . Some of the cuttings were in the shape of armorial bearings , the shields being generally divided in four parts . But the majority of the marks were only lines resembling the signs made by the sails of the old telegraphs . —Jons' IIENBT DIXON , in Notes and Queries .

laa & nTnooD . Has it ever been suggested to carry out the publication periodically , in one of the principal European capitals , of an official international record of all recognised orders of knighthood , the reliability of which should be be guaranteed by the various governments ,

ancl in which dormant and extinct orders should , as such , also be included , so that others beyond this record should be clearly defined and separated by the fact of their not being named ? At present there is much confusion of ideas on the subject , and very frequently we see an inferior but critical mind reject

that which the superior in all moral respects accepts , with an ingenuous faith that confaats strangely with the business habits aud usual shrewdness of the decorated . Most works on this subject are singularly inaccurate , and in one ( Clark ' s ) , at least , even " The Round Table" is seriously given as an " ancient

order , " along with a list of knig hts who never existed but in the romances of chivalry . Just as though , in a "History of Naval Commanders , " or ¦ " Celebrated Voyagers , '' we should find , beside Columbus , Fasco

de Gama , & c , Sindbad the sailor , —SP „ in Holes a , id Queries . S'l . AIEAS : AST ) FEESITASOXEY . Can any of your Masonic readers tell me where I can find any information confirmatory of the supposed connection between St . Ai'oau , the proto-martyr

of England , and the Freemasons' ? In the Book of Constitutions , compiled by order of the Grand Lodge in 1784 , it is mentioned that St . Alban aided Curausius in building Verulam , and that he obtained from the king a charter for the Freemasons to hold a general council , and was thereat himself as G . Ar-i .-j ' -er , and helped to "' make Masons , and gave them good charges and regulations . "—E . A . IT . L . in Lolas a-ia Queries .

BAItOS nor-tPESCii . The Baron was the last Grand Master of tho Order of St . John of Jerusalem , and the Maltese Gross oi tho 00 th Rifles displays the knightly badge of ksftrsl colonel . In the chivalrous spirit of feudal times thi : i corps would possibly have been preferred as the

legitimate representative of the Order—considering tL-o genuine nature of its encampment and military services—to any of those recent lanr / ues that nave r-ssumed the representation . —S . in Notes and- Qv .-rries .

irABTINISli j * . I am not sure of the date of the work of Javier de Maistre ; but if it appeared during the reigu of Louis XYIIL , the term Martiniame was prob & biy used to designate the revelations and prophecies of the peasant Martin , which he detailed iu his interview with the king in the year 1 S 16 . The reader is referred

to two works , very curious and interesting on the subject : — "Relation des c ' venements qui sent arrive it Thomas Martin , laboreur a Gallardon , en Beauce ,

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EARS OF WHEAT FROM A CORNUCOPIA. Article 6
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 28. Article 8
FREEMASONRY IN DENMARK. Article 8
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SOME THINGS WHICH INCONSISTENT WITH THE FREEMASONRY WHICH IS UNIVERSAL, ABSOLUTELY. Article 10
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LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS , &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 23RD, JULY 1870. Article 20
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Freemasonry In Denmark.

of a visitor whom they were , ancl he believed they always would , be pleased to see amongst them one whom they must acknowledge as representing the Grand Loclge of England , viz ., Bro . John Denton , of Leeds . He then called upon the brethren to assist him in giving Bro . D . the usual Masonic hearty

welcome . Bro . D ., in responding on behalf of the Grand Lodge of England and himself , stated it was highly gratifying to him to be present on such an unusual occasion . Probably no brother now here would be able to assist at another such festival . For the euloium paid to the Grand Lodge of England , Bro . D .

g thanked the W . M . and the brethren for the high comp liment to it ; and as British institutions were the pioneers of great and good works , so he trusted would all those be good and wise who trod in their steps . As time was fast advancing , and the banqueting hall was awaiting their presence to partake of the good

things provided for them , he would not detain them by any lengthy remarks , but there was one circumstance which had come to his knowledge that evening , and which he considered it his bounden duty to bring before their notice—a circumstance which appeared to him so vital to the whole Masonic body that he

could not refrain from dwelling upon the subject , and without further preface . Some three or four years ago an initiation took place in this loclge . The brother received a certificate , travelled to America , was never able to obtain admission into a lodge , although

armed with a proper certificate . Ancl why was he not able to get admission into a loclge ? Because , according to this system , the initiate receives the word in the 2 nd . According to the practice in England , America , India , China , Japan , Australia , the Cape , and and some parts of Europe , & c , and the initiate ' s certificate shows him to be only an initiate , although by

his actions it would appear that he was already advanced to the 2 nd , apparently demonstrating him to be an impostor . We as Masons state that Freemasonry is universal ; if so , then the S ' s , T ' s , and W ' s should be one and the same throughout the habitable globe . Bro . D . then entreated their Grand Lodge

and those working under this constitution to commence in good earnest to adopt the English system of S ' s , T ' s , and W ' s . As they all would acknowledge , Freemasonry was transplanted from England to the Continent during the last century—to some kingdoms earlier than others . He would ask how it was that

this dissimilarity arose ? Why it arose partly in this manne . Just one person , then another , introduced a system of working according to his fancy . Adherents were , hence the different systems arose . He would state in Hamburg alone there were tliree different systems worked ; and in conclusion thanked them for

their kind indulgence in paying such marked attention to his remarks . The lodge was then closed by uniting in one unbroken chain .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

Notes and Queries of Inst week contains several items relating to Masonry and kindred subjects , which we reproduce .- — MASCOTS' 3 IAEKS . At the last meeting of the Suisse Romande Historic

Society , held at Lausanne on the Oth . Tune , an interesting paper was read on this subject . A number of sketches were produced , taken from old houses at Geneva and in Savoy , & c . Some of the cuttings were in the shape of armorial bearings , the shields being generally divided in four parts . But the majority of the marks were only lines resembling the signs made by the sails of the old telegraphs . —Jons' IIENBT DIXON , in Notes and Queries .

laa & nTnooD . Has it ever been suggested to carry out the publication periodically , in one of the principal European capitals , of an official international record of all recognised orders of knighthood , the reliability of which should be be guaranteed by the various governments ,

ancl in which dormant and extinct orders should , as such , also be included , so that others beyond this record should be clearly defined and separated by the fact of their not being named ? At present there is much confusion of ideas on the subject , and very frequently we see an inferior but critical mind reject

that which the superior in all moral respects accepts , with an ingenuous faith that confaats strangely with the business habits aud usual shrewdness of the decorated . Most works on this subject are singularly inaccurate , and in one ( Clark ' s ) , at least , even " The Round Table" is seriously given as an " ancient

order , " along with a list of knig hts who never existed but in the romances of chivalry . Just as though , in a "History of Naval Commanders , " or ¦ " Celebrated Voyagers , '' we should find , beside Columbus , Fasco

de Gama , & c , Sindbad the sailor , —SP „ in Holes a , id Queries . S'l . AIEAS : AST ) FEESITASOXEY . Can any of your Masonic readers tell me where I can find any information confirmatory of the supposed connection between St . Ai'oau , the proto-martyr

of England , and the Freemasons' ? In the Book of Constitutions , compiled by order of the Grand Lodge in 1784 , it is mentioned that St . Alban aided Curausius in building Verulam , and that he obtained from the king a charter for the Freemasons to hold a general council , and was thereat himself as G . Ar-i .-j ' -er , and helped to "' make Masons , and gave them good charges and regulations . "—E . A . IT . L . in Lolas a-ia Queries .

BAItOS nor-tPESCii . The Baron was the last Grand Master of tho Order of St . John of Jerusalem , and the Maltese Gross oi tho 00 th Rifles displays the knightly badge of ksftrsl colonel . In the chivalrous spirit of feudal times thi : i corps would possibly have been preferred as the

legitimate representative of the Order—considering tL-o genuine nature of its encampment and military services—to any of those recent lanr / ues that nave r-ssumed the representation . —S . in Notes and- Qv .-rries .

irABTINISli j * . I am not sure of the date of the work of Javier de Maistre ; but if it appeared during the reigu of Louis XYIIL , the term Martiniame was prob & biy used to designate the revelations and prophecies of the peasant Martin , which he detailed iu his interview with the king in the year 1 S 16 . The reader is referred

to two works , very curious and interesting on the subject : — "Relation des c ' venements qui sent arrive it Thomas Martin , laboreur a Gallardon , en Beauce ,

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