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to enter every ane of thame ane Prenteis , they gevand advertissment to the Deacoune to meit thame with the ordure ; and this we testifie to be the trouth be these presents subscrypt with our hands . Jhonne Barklay- Wardene ; James Ross ,

nottar and clerk of the Court , subscrybis for Hew Craufurd , Deacone ; Robert Neal , of ' cr . "Thir names underwriten hes subscrybit the actis and ordinanceis and hes found cautione to give satisfactioune before our Brethrein at the

first ocasioune , —the principall namis Allane Fultoune in Stokbrigs , cationer for him Robert Foultoune in Montkthen ; John Fultoune younger , cationer for him John Fultoune his father ; Allane Fultoune in Monkthen , cationer for him Johne

Fultoune in Craigend ; James Fultoune in Bent , cationer for him Robert Fultoune in Mains ; Allane Fultoune , Johne Fultoune , James Fultoune , Allane Fultoune .

" Be it kent to you brethrein , upoune the twentie day of May , 1644 , the D eking , Hew Craufurd , and thir forenamit Maysteris and Miter Prenteis heirin insert , ther is entert to our Luge William . Darosche , servitor to Robert Fultone in

Monkthen ; and James Fultoune , brother to John Fultoune in Craigend ; and William Fultoune , servitor to Robert Fultoune in Mains ; and James Kimming , servitor to Allane Fultoune in Stokbrigs —quhilk we oblesse us to pay their buiking and

presaint thame to be entert at nixt court . " The introduction of non-operatives in the Kil-Lodge led to " Entered Gentleman Apprentice " and " Entered Operative Apprentice " being used to denote the two classes into which the intrants

were ranked ; but with the Lodge ' s abandonment ofthe O perative element in the constitution of its membership came a return to the ancient nomenclature in designating brethren of the lowest Masonic grade .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

ANCIENT MEMORANDA . The following extracts from the accounts of the churchwardens of the parish of St . Peter , Cheap , in the City of London , may not be uninteresting to Freemasons ( inter alia ) : — " 1559 . Item paide for Caringe the Egele of Bras

, vjd . Item paid to the ffremason for cuttinge away St . Peter ' s Tabernacle and the holywater stock , & c . 15 C 6-7 . _ For a hynge for Mr . Alderman Avenons pew dore and for mendyng Mr . Alderman Duckets pewe doore , xijd . Paid a freemason for mendynge a

Masonic Notes And Queries.

cracke on Mr . Duckets pewe and in the maids lofte , iiijs . 15 S 4 . Payde the xijth of Marche for red wands (?) for them that have the plague , jd . Payde for mendinge of the wyndowe ouer the church dore where the waights goe thorow . "

These " waights" or musicians were accustomed to play , standing upon the leads of the church , when any procession passed along Cheapsidec—JAMES FEEDEBICK SPTJBB .

BED CROSS KNIGHTS OE CONSTANTINE . Seeing that a 32 ° has heen exalted to the higher dignity of a Red Cross Knight of Coustantine , I wish to ask whether this privilege is confined to the 32 ° , or extends to the 31 ° , or even the IS , and whether there is a lower scale of fees for members of any particular

degree in advancement to the next degree of Red Cross , & c . I note further that he was at once admitted to the priestly and princely orders , so as to qualify him for a seat iu the Grand Council , and this is a seat in the Grand Council of 33 ° in Ireland . Is Red Cross , Sac ., intermediate between 32 ° and 33 ° or

higher than 33 ° ? "What is the real connexion between Red Cross , & c , and the A . & A . Rite ? Further , if a Red Cross , & c , has not already reached the 32 ° , is he privileged to take that or the 33 ° , or any other degree , on and preferential conditions or lower terms fromthe Supreme Council in England ? . How far does the Red Cross , & c , recognise the 32 ' or 90 ° of the Rite of Misraim ?—30 ° .

GEAND IODGE EIBEAEY . There is small hope of our having a Grand Lodge Librarian and Library when so many members of Grand Lodge and others care nothing for tbe Freemasons' Magazine , if they care for having at all . This state of affairs is a great disgrace to us . —A MASON OE 20 YEAES STANDING .

MASONIC . VTTTIIOBS . Bro , Sir Edward Strachey should be commemorated as the author of a work of reputation and research . — NOTE . CABEE TOW . A Bro . is a telegraph clerk . Can the Atlantic

cable he considered as the length of his cable tow , or would this be considered going great lengths ? I see by American newspapers that couples have been married by electric telegraph , has any American ever heen initiated by telegraph ? Can the knightly degreesbe communicated by electric telegraph ?—? ? ?

CAPTAIN TOEOKIEB . Can any of your readers or correspondents inform me , through your columns or otherwise , if they kuow the present address of a " Captain Torckler . " Can they also inform me if he is a Freemason , and if so , in what lodge was he initiated , and when , and of what lodge he is now a member ?—P . Z .

BED CEOSS OE CONSTANTINE AND ROME ( page 284 ) As our learned Bro . Hughan has referred to the modern date of the Masonic Orders of Malta , Red Cross , Sec ., as since 17-10 , 1 wish to ask him what is the earliest date at which the Red Cross of Rome appears as a Masonic Order . —J . CHABTERS .

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Ears Of Wheat From A Cornucopia

to enter every ane of thame ane Prenteis , they gevand advertissment to the Deacoune to meit thame with the ordure ; and this we testifie to be the trouth be these presents subscrypt with our hands . Jhonne Barklay- Wardene ; James Ross ,

nottar and clerk of the Court , subscrybis for Hew Craufurd , Deacone ; Robert Neal , of ' cr . "Thir names underwriten hes subscrybit the actis and ordinanceis and hes found cautione to give satisfactioune before our Brethrein at the

first ocasioune , —the principall namis Allane Fultoune in Stokbrigs , cationer for him Robert Foultoune in Montkthen ; John Fultoune younger , cationer for him John Fultoune his father ; Allane Fultoune in Monkthen , cationer for him Johne

Fultoune in Craigend ; James Fultoune in Bent , cationer for him Robert Fultoune in Mains ; Allane Fultoune , Johne Fultoune , James Fultoune , Allane Fultoune .

" Be it kent to you brethrein , upoune the twentie day of May , 1644 , the D eking , Hew Craufurd , and thir forenamit Maysteris and Miter Prenteis heirin insert , ther is entert to our Luge William . Darosche , servitor to Robert Fultone in

Monkthen ; and James Fultoune , brother to John Fultoune in Craigend ; and William Fultoune , servitor to Robert Fultoune in Mains ; and James Kimming , servitor to Allane Fultoune in Stokbrigs —quhilk we oblesse us to pay their buiking and

presaint thame to be entert at nixt court . " The introduction of non-operatives in the Kil-Lodge led to " Entered Gentleman Apprentice " and " Entered Operative Apprentice " being used to denote the two classes into which the intrants

were ranked ; but with the Lodge ' s abandonment ofthe O perative element in the constitution of its membership came a return to the ancient nomenclature in designating brethren of the lowest Masonic grade .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

ANCIENT MEMORANDA . The following extracts from the accounts of the churchwardens of the parish of St . Peter , Cheap , in the City of London , may not be uninteresting to Freemasons ( inter alia ) : — " 1559 . Item paide for Caringe the Egele of Bras

, vjd . Item paid to the ffremason for cuttinge away St . Peter ' s Tabernacle and the holywater stock , & c . 15 C 6-7 . _ For a hynge for Mr . Alderman Avenons pew dore and for mendyng Mr . Alderman Duckets pewe doore , xijd . Paid a freemason for mendynge a

Masonic Notes And Queries.

cracke on Mr . Duckets pewe and in the maids lofte , iiijs . 15 S 4 . Payde the xijth of Marche for red wands (?) for them that have the plague , jd . Payde for mendinge of the wyndowe ouer the church dore where the waights goe thorow . "

These " waights" or musicians were accustomed to play , standing upon the leads of the church , when any procession passed along Cheapsidec—JAMES FEEDEBICK SPTJBB .

BED CROSS KNIGHTS OE CONSTANTINE . Seeing that a 32 ° has heen exalted to the higher dignity of a Red Cross Knight of Coustantine , I wish to ask whether this privilege is confined to the 32 ° , or extends to the 31 ° , or even the IS , and whether there is a lower scale of fees for members of any particular

degree in advancement to the next degree of Red Cross , & c . I note further that he was at once admitted to the priestly and princely orders , so as to qualify him for a seat iu the Grand Council , and this is a seat in the Grand Council of 33 ° in Ireland . Is Red Cross , Sac ., intermediate between 32 ° and 33 ° or

higher than 33 ° ? "What is the real connexion between Red Cross , & c , and the A . & A . Rite ? Further , if a Red Cross , & c , has not already reached the 32 ° , is he privileged to take that or the 33 ° , or any other degree , on and preferential conditions or lower terms fromthe Supreme Council in England ? . How far does the Red Cross , & c , recognise the 32 ' or 90 ° of the Rite of Misraim ?—30 ° .

GEAND IODGE EIBEAEY . There is small hope of our having a Grand Lodge Librarian and Library when so many members of Grand Lodge and others care nothing for tbe Freemasons' Magazine , if they care for having at all . This state of affairs is a great disgrace to us . —A MASON OE 20 YEAES STANDING .

MASONIC . VTTTIIOBS . Bro , Sir Edward Strachey should be commemorated as the author of a work of reputation and research . — NOTE . CABEE TOW . A Bro . is a telegraph clerk . Can the Atlantic

cable he considered as the length of his cable tow , or would this be considered going great lengths ? I see by American newspapers that couples have been married by electric telegraph , has any American ever heen initiated by telegraph ? Can the knightly degreesbe communicated by electric telegraph ?—? ? ?

CAPTAIN TOEOKIEB . Can any of your readers or correspondents inform me , through your columns or otherwise , if they kuow the present address of a " Captain Torckler . " Can they also inform me if he is a Freemason , and if so , in what lodge was he initiated , and when , and of what lodge he is now a member ?—P . Z .

BED CEOSS OE CONSTANTINE AND ROME ( page 284 ) As our learned Bro . Hughan has referred to the modern date of the Masonic Orders of Malta , Red Cross , Sec ., as since 17-10 , 1 wish to ask him what is the earliest date at which the Red Cross of Rome appears as a Masonic Order . —J . CHABTERS .

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