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Classical Theology.—Lxvi.

premacy over the corners af the world . " In another of the sacred books of the Hindoos , we find carried out still further the description of the Supreme Creator , signified by their own expressions , ' - 'the maker of all things , and from whom all things proceed , " in which the general sentiments ofthe Pundits concerning the nature of divine perfection are evident

, but still insoluble except by Christian exposition . As God is immaterial , he is above conception ; as he is invisible , he can have no form ; but from what we behold of his works we may conclude that he is eternal , omnipotent , knowing all thihgs , and present everywhere .

Mother Kilwinning.

MOTHER KILWINNING .

By Bro . D . MuitKAi ^ LYOj ? , Prov . J " . AT . of Mother Kilwinning . On tho formation in 173 G of the present Grand Lodge of Scotland , when settling tho order of jn-eeedeiice among ; the subordinate lodges , the first place was given to the Lodge of Edinburgh ( St . Mary ' s Ohapel ) , and to Mother Kilwinning was assigned tho second . This arrangement

was afterwards repudiated by the Kilwinning brethren , who claimed for their lodge , as being the mother lodgo of Scotland , precedence over every other . Grand Lodge in the adjustment of their roll appears to have been guided by the documentary proof produced by each , lodge in support of the position claimed for it ; for , notwithstanding the almost universally-believed tradition

in favour of Mother Kilwinning being the oldest lodge in Scotland , in consequence of tho non-production of authentic written evidence to prove the identity of the lodge then existing under that name with the ono anciently hold in Kilwinning , the Grand Lodge ruled that because of its having been able to shew its minutebook of an earlier date than any borne upon that of the

Mother Lodge , St . Mary ' s Chapel , should continue to hold the first place in point of seniority among the other lodges in Scotland . Bather than submit to this , Mother Kilwinning , although it had been a consenting party to the erection of the new Grand Lodge , withdrew from it in 1743 , and reasserting its independence continued to exercise all the functions of a Grand Lodge until , in 1807 , a reconciliation was effected between it and the present

Grand Lodge of Scotland . Without m any way acknowledging her claim to be recognised as the oldest Scottish lodge , Grand Lodge , on the score of expediency , agreed to place the Kilwinning Lodge at the head of its roll under the denomination of Mother Kilwinning , No . 0 , —the second place being assigned to St . Mary ' s Ohapel , No . 1 , and to Oanongate Kilwinning fell No . 2 .

We have already , through these pages , noticed the gift to the Grand Lodge of Scotland made by the late Earl of Eglinton of "the Memorials ofthe Montgomeries , Earls of Eglinton , " printed from ancient MSS . preserved in the charter chest of that- noble family . The volumes in question were said to contain information of great interest to the Scottish Craft , and their publication discovers

the existence of evidence to show that the precedence given to the Lodge of Edinburgh over Mother Kilwinning , at the erection of the Grand Lodge in 1736 was similar to what had been arranged in 1598 b y William . Schaw , "Maister of Wark" to James the VI . The existence of such a document must have been unknown to the Masonic world at the time of Mother Kilwinning ' s

first dispute with the Grand Lodge , otherwise it would doubtless have been referred to as one of ths strongest proofs in favour of St . Mary ' s Chapel ' s claim in point of seniority to rank next to Grand Lodge . The " Memorials" contain "The Statuies and Ordinanceis to be obseruit be all the Maister Maissounis within this realme , " 1589 ; as are to be found in the last edition of Lawrie ' s History , and immediately following which is

the " Ordinance " affecting Mother Kilwinning , which , without farther remark at present , we now quote : — " First , It is ordanit that the wardens within the bouudis of Kilwinning , and vtheris placeis subject to their ludge , sallee chosen and eloctit zeirlie be mong of the maisteris voitis of the said ludge , vpoun the twentie day of December , ancl that within the kirk of Kilwynning , as the heid and and secund ludge of Scotland ; aud thereafter that the generall -warden be

advertysit zeirlie guha is chosin warden of the ludge , immediatelie efter his electioun . " Item . It is thoeht neidfull and expedient bo my lord warden generall , that everie ludge within Scotland sail have in tyme cuming the auld ancl antient liberteis thorof visit ancl wont of befoir ; and in speciall , that the ludge of Kilwyning , secuncl ludge of Scotland , sail half thair wardens present at the election of the wardenis within the houndis of the Xother AVaird

of Cliddisdaill , Glasgow , Air ancl bounclis of Garrick ; with powar to the said warden and dekyn of Kilwynning to convene the remanent wardenis and dekynis within the houndis foirsaid , giehan thay haif ony neid of importance ado , and thair to be judgit be the warden and dekyn of . Kilwynning grehen it sal pleis thame to convene for the tyme , other in Kilwynning , or within ony vther part of the AA est'of Scotland and bounclis foirsaid .

" Item . It is thoct neidfull and expedient beniy lord AVarden generall , that Edinburgh sal be iu all tyme cuming , as of befoir , the first and principal ! ludge in Scotland ; and that Kilwynning be the secund ludge as of befoir , is notourlie manifest in our auld ancient writtis ; and tbat S [ trine ] bing salbe the third ludge , conforme to the auld privileges thairof . "Item . It is t-hocht expedient that the wardenis of everie ilk ludge salbe answerable to the press [ tyte ] vybes within thair

schinef domes for the maissonis subject to the ludgeis , anent all ofl ' ensis ony of thame sail committ ; and tho part of the vulawis salbe employit to the godlie usis of the lodge quhuir ony offens sae happin to be commitit . " Item . That ther be tryall tiikind yeirlie be the wardenes and maist antient maisteris of the lodge , extending to sex persoiies , quha sail talc tryall of the offensis , that punishment may be execut conform to equitie and iustice and ' guid conscience , and

the antient ordour . " Item . It is ordanit be my lord warden generall , that the warden of Killwynning , as secund in Scotland , elect and chuis sex of the maist ferfyte and worthiest of meinorie within [ thair houndis ] , to talc tryall of the qualification of the haill masonis wittliinthe houndis foirsaid , of their art , craft , scyance , and antient meiuorie , to the effect the warden deakin may be answerable heireftir for sic personisas is commitit to himancl within

, , his houndis and jurisdiction !! . " Item . Commission !! is geiven to tho warden and deacon of Killwynning , as secund ludge , to secluid and away put furtli of their societie and cumpanie , all personis disobedient to fulfill and obey the haill actis ancl ancient statuttis sett doun of befoir of guid memorie , and all personis disobedient ather tu kirk , craft , counsall , and utheris statuttis and actis , to be maid

heireftir for one guid ordour . " Item . It is ordanit be the warden generall , that the warden ancl the deacon [ to be present ] , of his quarter maisteris elect , cheis and eonstitut ane fomous natar , as ordinar dark and a cryb ; and that the said notar to be chosinge sail occupye the office , and that all indentouris , discharges , and wtberis wrythis quhatsumeuer , perteining to the Craft , salbe onlies wrytin he

the dark , and that ua manor of wryfc , neytlier tityll nor wtber evident , to be admit to the said warden and deacon befoir thame , except it be maid be the said dark , and subscry ' nit with liishand . "Item . It is ordanit be my lord generall , that the hale auld antient actis and statutis maicl of befoir be the predeeessouris of the Masounis of Killwynning , be obseruit faithfullie and lcepit be the craftis in all tymes cmningeand that no prentis nor

, craftis man in any tymes heirefter , be admittit or enterit , but onlie within the Kirk of Killwynning as his paroche and secund luge ; and that all bankattis for entrie of prenteis or fallow of craftis to be maid within the said luge of Killwynning . " Item . It is ordanit , that all jallous of Crafts at his entire , pay to the commoun bokis of the luge the soum of ten pundis morewith XS . worthe of luffisor evir he be admitted aud

, g , , that for the banlcett ; and that he be not admitted without ane sufficient essay and pruife of memorie and art of Craft , be the warden deacon and quarter maisteris of the luge , conforme to the foirmur ; and quhairthrow thai may be the mair ansuerable to the generall warden .

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CLASSICAL THEOLOGY.—LXVI. Article 1
MOTHER KILWINNING. Article 2
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 3
BRITISH SCULPTURE.—A VISIT TO THE STUDIOS. Article 7
FURNITURE. Article 9
STRUCTURES IN THE SEA. Article 10
THE THAMES EMBANKMENT. Article 12
AN INCIDENT OF THE AMERICAN WAR. Article 12
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH. Article 15
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 15
Obituary. Article 15
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS Article 16
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Classical Theology.—Lxvi.

premacy over the corners af the world . " In another of the sacred books of the Hindoos , we find carried out still further the description of the Supreme Creator , signified by their own expressions , ' - 'the maker of all things , and from whom all things proceed , " in which the general sentiments ofthe Pundits concerning the nature of divine perfection are evident

, but still insoluble except by Christian exposition . As God is immaterial , he is above conception ; as he is invisible , he can have no form ; but from what we behold of his works we may conclude that he is eternal , omnipotent , knowing all thihgs , and present everywhere .

Mother Kilwinning.

MOTHER KILWINNING .

By Bro . D . MuitKAi ^ LYOj ? , Prov . J " . AT . of Mother Kilwinning . On tho formation in 173 G of the present Grand Lodge of Scotland , when settling tho order of jn-eeedeiice among ; the subordinate lodges , the first place was given to the Lodge of Edinburgh ( St . Mary ' s Ohapel ) , and to Mother Kilwinning was assigned tho second . This arrangement

was afterwards repudiated by the Kilwinning brethren , who claimed for their lodge , as being the mother lodgo of Scotland , precedence over every other . Grand Lodge in the adjustment of their roll appears to have been guided by the documentary proof produced by each , lodge in support of the position claimed for it ; for , notwithstanding the almost universally-believed tradition

in favour of Mother Kilwinning being the oldest lodge in Scotland , in consequence of tho non-production of authentic written evidence to prove the identity of the lodge then existing under that name with the ono anciently hold in Kilwinning , the Grand Lodge ruled that because of its having been able to shew its minutebook of an earlier date than any borne upon that of the

Mother Lodge , St . Mary ' s Chapel , should continue to hold the first place in point of seniority among the other lodges in Scotland . Bather than submit to this , Mother Kilwinning , although it had been a consenting party to the erection of the new Grand Lodge , withdrew from it in 1743 , and reasserting its independence continued to exercise all the functions of a Grand Lodge until , in 1807 , a reconciliation was effected between it and the present

Grand Lodge of Scotland . Without m any way acknowledging her claim to be recognised as the oldest Scottish lodge , Grand Lodge , on the score of expediency , agreed to place the Kilwinning Lodge at the head of its roll under the denomination of Mother Kilwinning , No . 0 , —the second place being assigned to St . Mary ' s Ohapel , No . 1 , and to Oanongate Kilwinning fell No . 2 .

We have already , through these pages , noticed the gift to the Grand Lodge of Scotland made by the late Earl of Eglinton of "the Memorials ofthe Montgomeries , Earls of Eglinton , " printed from ancient MSS . preserved in the charter chest of that- noble family . The volumes in question were said to contain information of great interest to the Scottish Craft , and their publication discovers

the existence of evidence to show that the precedence given to the Lodge of Edinburgh over Mother Kilwinning , at the erection of the Grand Lodge in 1736 was similar to what had been arranged in 1598 b y William . Schaw , "Maister of Wark" to James the VI . The existence of such a document must have been unknown to the Masonic world at the time of Mother Kilwinning ' s

first dispute with the Grand Lodge , otherwise it would doubtless have been referred to as one of ths strongest proofs in favour of St . Mary ' s Chapel ' s claim in point of seniority to rank next to Grand Lodge . The " Memorials" contain "The Statuies and Ordinanceis to be obseruit be all the Maister Maissounis within this realme , " 1589 ; as are to be found in the last edition of Lawrie ' s History , and immediately following which is

the " Ordinance " affecting Mother Kilwinning , which , without farther remark at present , we now quote : — " First , It is ordanit that the wardens within the bouudis of Kilwinning , and vtheris placeis subject to their ludge , sallee chosen and eloctit zeirlie be mong of the maisteris voitis of the said ludge , vpoun the twentie day of December , ancl that within the kirk of Kilwynning , as the heid and and secund ludge of Scotland ; aud thereafter that the generall -warden be

advertysit zeirlie guha is chosin warden of the ludge , immediatelie efter his electioun . " Item . It is thoeht neidfull and expedient bo my lord warden generall , that everie ludge within Scotland sail have in tyme cuming the auld ancl antient liberteis thorof visit ancl wont of befoir ; and in speciall , that the ludge of Kilwyning , secuncl ludge of Scotland , sail half thair wardens present at the election of the wardenis within the houndis of the Xother AVaird

of Cliddisdaill , Glasgow , Air ancl bounclis of Garrick ; with powar to the said warden and dekyn of Kilwynning to convene the remanent wardenis and dekynis within the houndis foirsaid , giehan thay haif ony neid of importance ado , and thair to be judgit be the warden and dekyn of . Kilwynning grehen it sal pleis thame to convene for the tyme , other in Kilwynning , or within ony vther part of the AA est'of Scotland and bounclis foirsaid .

" Item . It is thoct neidfull and expedient beniy lord AVarden generall , that Edinburgh sal be iu all tyme cuming , as of befoir , the first and principal ! ludge in Scotland ; and that Kilwynning be the secund ludge as of befoir , is notourlie manifest in our auld ancient writtis ; and tbat S [ trine ] bing salbe the third ludge , conforme to the auld privileges thairof . "Item . It is t-hocht expedient that the wardenis of everie ilk ludge salbe answerable to the press [ tyte ] vybes within thair

schinef domes for the maissonis subject to the ludgeis , anent all ofl ' ensis ony of thame sail committ ; and tho part of the vulawis salbe employit to the godlie usis of the lodge quhuir ony offens sae happin to be commitit . " Item . That ther be tryall tiikind yeirlie be the wardenes and maist antient maisteris of the lodge , extending to sex persoiies , quha sail talc tryall of the offensis , that punishment may be execut conform to equitie and iustice and ' guid conscience , and

the antient ordour . " Item . It is ordanit be my lord warden generall , that the warden of Killwynning , as secund in Scotland , elect and chuis sex of the maist ferfyte and worthiest of meinorie within [ thair houndis ] , to talc tryall of the qualification of the haill masonis wittliinthe houndis foirsaid , of their art , craft , scyance , and antient meiuorie , to the effect the warden deakin may be answerable heireftir for sic personisas is commitit to himancl within

, , his houndis and jurisdiction !! . " Item . Commission !! is geiven to tho warden and deacon of Killwynning , as secund ludge , to secluid and away put furtli of their societie and cumpanie , all personis disobedient to fulfill and obey the haill actis ancl ancient statuttis sett doun of befoir of guid memorie , and all personis disobedient ather tu kirk , craft , counsall , and utheris statuttis and actis , to be maid

heireftir for one guid ordour . " Item . It is ordanit be the warden generall , that the warden ancl the deacon [ to be present ] , of his quarter maisteris elect , cheis and eonstitut ane fomous natar , as ordinar dark and a cryb ; and that the said notar to be chosinge sail occupye the office , and that all indentouris , discharges , and wtberis wrythis quhatsumeuer , perteining to the Craft , salbe onlies wrytin he

the dark , and that ua manor of wryfc , neytlier tityll nor wtber evident , to be admit to the said warden and deacon befoir thame , except it be maid be the said dark , and subscry ' nit with liishand . "Item . It is ordanit be my lord generall , that the hale auld antient actis and statutis maicl of befoir be the predeeessouris of the Masounis of Killwynning , be obseruit faithfullie and lcepit be the craftis in all tymes cmningeand that no prentis nor

, craftis man in any tymes heirefter , be admittit or enterit , but onlie within the Kirk of Killwynning as his paroche and secund luge ; and that all bankattis for entrie of prenteis or fallow of craftis to be maid within the said luge of Killwynning . " Item . It is ordanit , that all jallous of Crafts at his entire , pay to the commoun bokis of the luge the soum of ten pundis morewith XS . worthe of luffisor evir he be admitted aud

, g , , that for the banlcett ; and that he be not admitted without ane sufficient essay and pruife of memorie and art of Craft , be the warden deacon and quarter maisteris of the luge , conforme to the foirmur ; and quhairthrow thai may be the mair ansuerable to the generall warden .

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