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Contents . PAGE . FREEVSIASOJTS' MAGAZISE : — Freemasonry in France 481 The Grand Loelge of the Three Globes , Berlin 483 History of Freemasonry in AA orcestershiro 481 Masonic Jottings—No . 21 487 Masonic Archaiological Institute 487
Masonic Notes and Queries 489 Correspondence 491 Masonic Sayings and Doings Abroad 492 MiBOSIC MtEKOK : — Masonic Mems 494 CSAPT LOUGE MEETINGS : — Metropolitan , 494 Provincial 494
India 496 Royal Arch 498 Ancient anel Accepted Rite 499 Reviews 499 Obituary 499 Scientific Meetings 500 List of Loelge , & c , Meetings for ensuing week 500 To Correspondents , 500
Freemasonry In France.
FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE .
LONDON , SATURDAY , JJJNF 18 , 1870 .
( Continued from page 462 . ) Lodge Francaise clue Ecossaise demanded " that the Grand Orient should not arrogate to itself" the power of reprimanding and . punishing brethren , as in cases of certain brethren cited . The demand is
made on the ground that the lodges only have the right in cases of Masonic discipline , Avhile it admits the jurisdiction of the Grand Orient in cases of violation of the Constitutions . The lodge therefore proposed that , in conformity to the
Constitutions , an administrative court be established , independent of other powers , with two degrees of jurisdiction . Article 25 of the Constitution gives to the Grand . Master the right to suspend brethren , leaving them at liberty to appeal to the Council of the Order within 33 days .
It seems natural that since the Masonic law regards a reprimand as a higher punishment than that of suspension , the Grand Master , and likewise the Council , can lessen the punishment , and consider the reprimand as sufficient . This was
the case with the Masons of Bordeaux . As to the case of Bro . Patry , it was explained that the decision was different . The Grand Master had merely said that he thought he had occasion to reprimand Bro . Patry through the intervention of
the W . Master of the lodge . It was merely an advice ; nothing more . The subject was then dropped . A proposition of the Sixth Bureau was presented : — " In consideration that certificates , briefs ,
and patents delivered by the Grand Orient of France , being in but one language , are insufficient for the purposes of brethren travelling in distant countries , aud likewise that foreign jurisdictions deliver them in two languages ( Latin and the
national language ) , it is desirable that the Grand Orient should issue all Masonic certificates in three languages , French , English , and Spanish . " Bro Venot reported that the only difficulty would be to choose a language besides the national tongue in which documents should be printed . He considered the best course would be to use the
French language , with a translation into Latin . Bro . Colfavru observed that the use of the French language was now almost universal , and therefore it was unnecessary to introduce any other language . Especially he opposed the
introduction of Latin , an obscure language of the past . After some further observations , the proposition of Bro . Yienot was put to the vote , but was not carried .
Lodge "La Phare Hospitalier , " Orient of Senlis , demanded a recognition by the G . O . of the the right each lodge in France to correspond at will with French or foreign lodges upon questions of administration and finance , and of social and
philosophical progress ; centralisation being condemned by all enlightened and progressive classes . Freemasonry being a lover of progress , can it refuse to strengthen the rights and powers of its lodges ?
Bro . Vienot , in his report , considered there was no necessity for this proposition . He remarked that the lodges already possessed the right of correspondence here demanded . Although , a clause was proposed forbidding such intercommunication ,
it was not adopted . The only prohibition which existed was a collective deliberation ; the right of correspondence , he said , existed . The Council apparently deemed this explanation satisfactory , for the subject was not further
pressed . The same lodge also brought forward a desire that the subject of universal peace should be advocated by the Masonic body . The Council were of opinion that the desire was a legitimate
application of the principles of the Masonic Fraternity , , but could not see any means by which they could forward the object . A suggestion from Lodge Progres , Orient of Saint Geniijs de Malgoires , that application should
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Contents . PAGE . FREEVSIASOJTS' MAGAZISE : — Freemasonry in France 481 The Grand Loelge of the Three Globes , Berlin 483 History of Freemasonry in AA orcestershiro 481 Masonic Jottings—No . 21 487 Masonic Archaiological Institute 487
Masonic Notes and Queries 489 Correspondence 491 Masonic Sayings and Doings Abroad 492 MiBOSIC MtEKOK : — Masonic Mems 494 CSAPT LOUGE MEETINGS : — Metropolitan , 494 Provincial 494
India 496 Royal Arch 498 Ancient anel Accepted Rite 499 Reviews 499 Obituary 499 Scientific Meetings 500 List of Loelge , & c , Meetings for ensuing week 500 To Correspondents , 500
Freemasonry In France.
FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE .
LONDON , SATURDAY , JJJNF 18 , 1870 .
( Continued from page 462 . ) Lodge Francaise clue Ecossaise demanded " that the Grand Orient should not arrogate to itself" the power of reprimanding and . punishing brethren , as in cases of certain brethren cited . The demand is
made on the ground that the lodges only have the right in cases of Masonic discipline , Avhile it admits the jurisdiction of the Grand Orient in cases of violation of the Constitutions . The lodge therefore proposed that , in conformity to the
Constitutions , an administrative court be established , independent of other powers , with two degrees of jurisdiction . Article 25 of the Constitution gives to the Grand . Master the right to suspend brethren , leaving them at liberty to appeal to the Council of the Order within 33 days .
It seems natural that since the Masonic law regards a reprimand as a higher punishment than that of suspension , the Grand Master , and likewise the Council , can lessen the punishment , and consider the reprimand as sufficient . This was
the case with the Masons of Bordeaux . As to the case of Bro . Patry , it was explained that the decision was different . The Grand Master had merely said that he thought he had occasion to reprimand Bro . Patry through the intervention of
the W . Master of the lodge . It was merely an advice ; nothing more . The subject was then dropped . A proposition of the Sixth Bureau was presented : — " In consideration that certificates , briefs ,
and patents delivered by the Grand Orient of France , being in but one language , are insufficient for the purposes of brethren travelling in distant countries , aud likewise that foreign jurisdictions deliver them in two languages ( Latin and the
national language ) , it is desirable that the Grand Orient should issue all Masonic certificates in three languages , French , English , and Spanish . " Bro Venot reported that the only difficulty would be to choose a language besides the national tongue in which documents should be printed . He considered the best course would be to use the
French language , with a translation into Latin . Bro . Colfavru observed that the use of the French language was now almost universal , and therefore it was unnecessary to introduce any other language . Especially he opposed the
introduction of Latin , an obscure language of the past . After some further observations , the proposition of Bro . Yienot was put to the vote , but was not carried .
Lodge "La Phare Hospitalier , " Orient of Senlis , demanded a recognition by the G . O . of the the right each lodge in France to correspond at will with French or foreign lodges upon questions of administration and finance , and of social and
philosophical progress ; centralisation being condemned by all enlightened and progressive classes . Freemasonry being a lover of progress , can it refuse to strengthen the rights and powers of its lodges ?
Bro . Vienot , in his report , considered there was no necessity for this proposition . He remarked that the lodges already possessed the right of correspondence here demanded . Although , a clause was proposed forbidding such intercommunication ,
it was not adopted . The only prohibition which existed was a collective deliberation ; the right of correspondence , he said , existed . The Council apparently deemed this explanation satisfactory , for the subject was not further
pressed . The same lodge also brought forward a desire that the subject of universal peace should be advocated by the Masonic body . The Council were of opinion that the desire was a legitimate
application of the principles of the Masonic Fraternity , , but could not see any means by which they could forward the object . A suggestion from Lodge Progres , Orient of Saint Geniijs de Malgoires , that application should