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Masonic Notes And Queries.

LODGES IN MEXICO . Where can I obtain information as to the Lodges that are working in Mexico , and under what authority they derive thenpowers ?—P . THE SITS AXn TOE CARDINAL POINTS OP THE COMPASS . What arc the peculiar reasons for certain of our mysteries having reference to the sun and the cardinal points of the

compass ?—E . X . E . —[ The sun rises in the East , then we should remember our daily orisons , and cheerfully commence our labours , as we do in Lodge , when the sun of Masonry rises in that quarter . In the South he is at his meridian height , it is then we should cease from the toils of the day , as we do at the bidding of the J . W . In the West he sets , then our day ' s work is done , and we should offer up our prayers for mercies vouchsafed to ns , after which the S . W . dismisses us to rest . The North , being below our horizon , is properly devoted to Nature ' s kind restorer , " balmy sleep . " ]

PERNETTI . Pcrnctti is reputed to have been a Benedictine Monk , who , in conjunction with a Polish Nobleman , I forget his name , instituted a- rite in which Swcdenborgianism and Masomy were intimately blended . What is known of Pcrnctti ?—MAGISTER .

PRACTICAL JOKING IX MASONRY . I recently attended a Lodge in Scotland , anil there saw such an amount of practical joking with a candidate that , had it been my case , I should never have set foot in a Lodge again . The whole was a burlesque throughout and enough to disgust any man of common sense . Pray insert this amongst 3 'our notes , so that when English Brethren visit a Lotlgc in Scotland , they may not be surprised to sec the old school-boy fun of tossing

in a blanket introduced . Thank God , I am—Ax ENGLISH BROTHER . —[ Our correspondent should bear in mind two circumstances . One is , that their observances are different from ours , and what to us might appear a burlesque , may be a serious matter to a Scotch Brother . In these things it is the manner , and not the matter that should be held responsible . The majority of Scotch Lodges arc as well conducted as the

English , and if our brother happened to light on one of exceptional usage , he should not condemn all for one . Rough play , has gone out of date in Masonry , but what would our thankful brother have said if he had witnessed such a scene as took place , according to an old , and very rare , Irish Masonic song-book , about 1770 , when an "Irish Pedlar applied to a most respectable (?) Lodge to bo initiated into the Secrets of Freemasonry ; the members of which were so highly incensed , -that they served him in the following ludicrous manner . "

" How Bennett was made ( a pedlar in trade ) , A Mason of whimsical order : "We stripp'd Mm quite hare , deprived Win of hair , And painted his skin like a border . " "With candle in breech , at the inn of Tom Creech , And prominent belly all painted ; He g-nin'd the grand Art , which he swore ne'er to part "Were 3-011 by , you'd ( with laughing ) have fainted .

" Tantrolohm was giv ' n to shun the old leaven , AVith tokens and signs in great plenty ; Hictius , Doctius , and Stoke were the cream of the joke , Then slaps on his ribs lie got twenty . " With looks quite austere , and like my lord mayor , Amyas , lie gave a deep lecture ' Pout the man in the moon , and old pantaloon , With a treatise upon architecture .

" O'Callaghan , Grand Master , applied healing plaister To cure the rife wounds of the poker ; Por bis b 's were . sear'd , and dipt was his beard , Whilst Collins- was fined as a joker . "Little Jerymn stood snug , like a bug in a rug , Put thought the promotion too high , sir ; For a man in one night to take such a flight , And , like Ichavus , soar to the sky , sir .

" 2 Yed Toimisend and Carlhy , they both were right hearty , And enjoyed the delights of the season ; 3 Whilst Maun . iell , all gravity , prcach'd with much brevity 'Pout nothing but scripture and reason .

O'Lriscollf the haughty , that giant so daughty , Stood Tyler , like Gabriel of old , sir ; "Whilst feathers and tar , in lieu of his hair , Supplied Bennett , lest he should take cold , sir . " We have given the song and notes verbatim , and think every Brother will agree with us that such a scandal was neither Masonic nor gentlemanly ] .

OLD TOASTS . Add to your former list of old toasts , the following : " May every Mason who stands in need of friendship , be able to say Eureka , "—I have found it . " May the Tuscan Order support us , the Ionic guide us , and the Corinthian reward us . " " May wc never be unmindful of Judas' fate . "—TIJIOTHEUS .

BRO . THE REV . DANIEL TURNER . I have some " extracts from two discourses delivered at Woolwich , 1787-8 , by the Kev . Daniel Turner . " Where were they delivered ? What Lodge did the Bcv . Bro . belong to , and what were his ecclesiastical preferments ?—NOVICE . MASONIC EXHORTATIONS . In a small book I have , I find some "Masonic Exhortations

From the German . " They consist of the nine following headings : i . Duty towards God and Relig ion , ii . The Immortality of the Soul . iii . Duty towards the King and Country , iv . Duty towards Mankind in general , v . Benevolence , vi . Further duties towards Men . vii . Cultivation of one's self , viii . Duties towards Brethren . ix . Duties towards the Order ; and a short conclusion . I venture to ask who was the author of these very beautiful exhortations ?—H . BAKER .

HATES 03 ? ESTABLISlMEfSI OS , G " BAN » LOB-GVS . Is there any method by which lean learn the dates at which Grand Lodges were established in Europe ?—F . A . G . —[ The following list may , perhaps , meet our correspondent ' s wishes : Grand Lodge of England , revived 1717 Scotland , about 1460 „ Ireland 1729

Prance 1730 „ Germany ( proper ) 173 $ Prussia 1732 Saxony 1738 „ Belgium 1757 Denmark 1743 „ Sweden 1754 . ltussia 1740

, Poland 1784 „ Bohemia 1776 Switzerland 1737 These arc all approximate dates , and allude only to the establishment of Grand Lodges . In many of the countriesnamed , there were single Lodges existing long before the aboveyears ] .

TEETOTAL LODGES . Which is the earliest Teetotal Lodge in existence?—ANTIBACCHUS . —[ We believe there is one at Birmingham , founded on total abstinence principles , but they can hardly be called the first , because , when the holy father , Clement XII ., had issued his bull against Masonry , the Brethren of Italy formed themselves into a society called Xerophagists , literally , "drylivers" i . a . persons who did not drink intoxicating liquors ,,

, , from which they may be looked upon as the first precursors of Teetotal Lodges . ] BRO . MATTHEW COOKE ' S HISTORY AND ARTICLES OP MASONRY . I send you an extract from the " Voice of Masonry" for the 1 st of July , 1860 . It is as follows : — "A work is announced as in press by Pro . Matthew Cooke , which cannot fail to excite Masonic interest . It is 3 fhe-simile publication ,

printed in black letter rubricated , and accompanied by a version in modern orthography , of the celebrated ancient manuscript in the British Museum , entitled , ' The History and Articles of Masonry . ' The first translation of tin ' s curious work was made in 1853 , by Mr . Bob . Morris , and introduced the year following into his ' Code of Masonic Law / as the oldest Masonic document extant . AVe shall look with great interest to Bro . Cooke's publication . " I am also anxiously awaiting the appearance of the above , but I wish to enquire if we are only to have a reprint of a Translation made by Bro . Rob . Morris , seven years since ?—

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POLITICAL FREEMASONRY. Article 1
CLASSICAL THEOLOGY.—XXIX. Article 3
THE STUDY OF CLASSICAL ARCHÆOLOGY. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 7
Poetry. Article 8
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
YORKSHIRE (NORTH). Article 10
MARK MASONRY. Article 14
KNIGHTS-TEMPLAR. Article 15
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 15
AMERICA. Article 15
WEST INDIES. Article 17
SOUTH AUSTRALIA. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 20
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

LODGES IN MEXICO . Where can I obtain information as to the Lodges that are working in Mexico , and under what authority they derive thenpowers ?—P . THE SITS AXn TOE CARDINAL POINTS OP THE COMPASS . What arc the peculiar reasons for certain of our mysteries having reference to the sun and the cardinal points of the

compass ?—E . X . E . —[ The sun rises in the East , then we should remember our daily orisons , and cheerfully commence our labours , as we do in Lodge , when the sun of Masonry rises in that quarter . In the South he is at his meridian height , it is then we should cease from the toils of the day , as we do at the bidding of the J . W . In the West he sets , then our day ' s work is done , and we should offer up our prayers for mercies vouchsafed to ns , after which the S . W . dismisses us to rest . The North , being below our horizon , is properly devoted to Nature ' s kind restorer , " balmy sleep . " ]

PERNETTI . Pcrnctti is reputed to have been a Benedictine Monk , who , in conjunction with a Polish Nobleman , I forget his name , instituted a- rite in which Swcdenborgianism and Masomy were intimately blended . What is known of Pcrnctti ?—MAGISTER .

PRACTICAL JOKING IX MASONRY . I recently attended a Lodge in Scotland , anil there saw such an amount of practical joking with a candidate that , had it been my case , I should never have set foot in a Lodge again . The whole was a burlesque throughout and enough to disgust any man of common sense . Pray insert this amongst 3 'our notes , so that when English Brethren visit a Lotlgc in Scotland , they may not be surprised to sec the old school-boy fun of tossing

in a blanket introduced . Thank God , I am—Ax ENGLISH BROTHER . —[ Our correspondent should bear in mind two circumstances . One is , that their observances are different from ours , and what to us might appear a burlesque , may be a serious matter to a Scotch Brother . In these things it is the manner , and not the matter that should be held responsible . The majority of Scotch Lodges arc as well conducted as the

English , and if our brother happened to light on one of exceptional usage , he should not condemn all for one . Rough play , has gone out of date in Masonry , but what would our thankful brother have said if he had witnessed such a scene as took place , according to an old , and very rare , Irish Masonic song-book , about 1770 , when an "Irish Pedlar applied to a most respectable (?) Lodge to bo initiated into the Secrets of Freemasonry ; the members of which were so highly incensed , -that they served him in the following ludicrous manner . "

" How Bennett was made ( a pedlar in trade ) , A Mason of whimsical order : "We stripp'd Mm quite hare , deprived Win of hair , And painted his skin like a border . " "With candle in breech , at the inn of Tom Creech , And prominent belly all painted ; He g-nin'd the grand Art , which he swore ne'er to part "Were 3-011 by , you'd ( with laughing ) have fainted .

" Tantrolohm was giv ' n to shun the old leaven , AVith tokens and signs in great plenty ; Hictius , Doctius , and Stoke were the cream of the joke , Then slaps on his ribs lie got twenty . " With looks quite austere , and like my lord mayor , Amyas , lie gave a deep lecture ' Pout the man in the moon , and old pantaloon , With a treatise upon architecture .

" O'Callaghan , Grand Master , applied healing plaister To cure the rife wounds of the poker ; Por bis b 's were . sear'd , and dipt was his beard , Whilst Collins- was fined as a joker . "Little Jerymn stood snug , like a bug in a rug , Put thought the promotion too high , sir ; For a man in one night to take such a flight , And , like Ichavus , soar to the sky , sir .

" 2 Yed Toimisend and Carlhy , they both were right hearty , And enjoyed the delights of the season ; 3 Whilst Maun . iell , all gravity , prcach'd with much brevity 'Pout nothing but scripture and reason .

O'Lriscollf the haughty , that giant so daughty , Stood Tyler , like Gabriel of old , sir ; "Whilst feathers and tar , in lieu of his hair , Supplied Bennett , lest he should take cold , sir . " We have given the song and notes verbatim , and think every Brother will agree with us that such a scandal was neither Masonic nor gentlemanly ] .

OLD TOASTS . Add to your former list of old toasts , the following : " May every Mason who stands in need of friendship , be able to say Eureka , "—I have found it . " May the Tuscan Order support us , the Ionic guide us , and the Corinthian reward us . " " May wc never be unmindful of Judas' fate . "—TIJIOTHEUS .

BRO . THE REV . DANIEL TURNER . I have some " extracts from two discourses delivered at Woolwich , 1787-8 , by the Kev . Daniel Turner . " Where were they delivered ? What Lodge did the Bcv . Bro . belong to , and what were his ecclesiastical preferments ?—NOVICE . MASONIC EXHORTATIONS . In a small book I have , I find some "Masonic Exhortations

From the German . " They consist of the nine following headings : i . Duty towards God and Relig ion , ii . The Immortality of the Soul . iii . Duty towards the King and Country , iv . Duty towards Mankind in general , v . Benevolence , vi . Further duties towards Men . vii . Cultivation of one's self , viii . Duties towards Brethren . ix . Duties towards the Order ; and a short conclusion . I venture to ask who was the author of these very beautiful exhortations ?—H . BAKER .

HATES 03 ? ESTABLISlMEfSI OS , G " BAN » LOB-GVS . Is there any method by which lean learn the dates at which Grand Lodges were established in Europe ?—F . A . G . —[ The following list may , perhaps , meet our correspondent ' s wishes : Grand Lodge of England , revived 1717 Scotland , about 1460 „ Ireland 1729

Prance 1730 „ Germany ( proper ) 173 $ Prussia 1732 Saxony 1738 „ Belgium 1757 Denmark 1743 „ Sweden 1754 . ltussia 1740

, Poland 1784 „ Bohemia 1776 Switzerland 1737 These arc all approximate dates , and allude only to the establishment of Grand Lodges . In many of the countriesnamed , there were single Lodges existing long before the aboveyears ] .

TEETOTAL LODGES . Which is the earliest Teetotal Lodge in existence?—ANTIBACCHUS . —[ We believe there is one at Birmingham , founded on total abstinence principles , but they can hardly be called the first , because , when the holy father , Clement XII ., had issued his bull against Masonry , the Brethren of Italy formed themselves into a society called Xerophagists , literally , "drylivers" i . a . persons who did not drink intoxicating liquors ,,

, , from which they may be looked upon as the first precursors of Teetotal Lodges . ] BRO . MATTHEW COOKE ' S HISTORY AND ARTICLES OP MASONRY . I send you an extract from the " Voice of Masonry" for the 1 st of July , 1860 . It is as follows : — "A work is announced as in press by Pro . Matthew Cooke , which cannot fail to excite Masonic interest . It is 3 fhe-simile publication ,

printed in black letter rubricated , and accompanied by a version in modern orthography , of the celebrated ancient manuscript in the British Museum , entitled , ' The History and Articles of Masonry . ' The first translation of tin ' s curious work was made in 1853 , by Mr . Bob . Morris , and introduced the year following into his ' Code of Masonic Law / as the oldest Masonic document extant . AVe shall look with great interest to Bro . Cooke's publication . " I am also anxiously awaiting the appearance of the above , but I wish to enquire if we are only to have a reprint of a Translation made by Bro . Rob . Morris , seven years since ?—

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