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the chivalric degrees cannot be allowed to be performed on Grand Lodge property , condescendingly telling us that Ave may be permitted to find a home in the tavern to be attached to the neAV Masonic Hall ; and the same article ranks us Avith the Odd Felloivs , & c ., and yet Bro . Cooke coolly tells us we are a Masonic body . I cannot reduce the Knight Templar at one swoop to

be an armed secret societ j ' , for , however derogatory it may appear to Bro . Cooke , Ave cannot help ourselves , for we are so , but though Ave xaaj be , strictly speaking , incompetent , to claim exemption under the Act of 1789 , there is very little chance of such an Act being put in force against us , though how our being an illegal society , if such is the fact , can make us Freemasons , I cannot pretend to understand .

So long as Ave admit Masons only to the honour of Knighthood , Ave must insist upon candidates being properly qualified , but there is no clause in our charter of constitution rendering it compulsory upon us to admit Freemasons only . The Duke of Sussex Avas Grand Prior of England under . he French constitution , but he was installed Grand

Master of the Holy Temple and Sepulchre , and of Saint John of Jerusalem ; August 6 tb , 1862 , he never issued auy warrant of confirmation , nor , if he did , was any such necessary . Bro . Cooke was joking when he accused me of making Walter deCliffcon Grand Master to Prince Charles Stuart , for he knows perfectly Avell , that inserting a comma after

the AA'ords Grand Master , which the compositor omitted to do , though it was in my copy , would have rendered my meaning perfectly plain , viz .: that the Scotch Templars claim an uninterrupted descent from Walter de Clifton , Grand Preceptor of Scotland in 1309 , and afterwards Grand Master , down to Prince Charles Edward Stuart , Avho Avas elected Grand Master in 1745 ; my printed copy of the Duke of Perth ' s letter is dated 1745—in page 256 of tho MAGAZINE it is dated 1746 , a difference of one year .

Is such . quibbling worthy of Bro . Cooke ? I never said that the conversion of Edwin by his wife confirmed the tradition that he Avas Grand Master , but that it was an historical fact that Edwin laid the foundation of the first stone cathedral in York ; and in Masonic anguage , that Avould mean Echvin , by laying such foundation , would be said to have sat or acted as Grand Master

Mason ; and it would be well for Masonry if all her traditions could be so strongly supported . But , leaving the sixth century , we will come to tho reign , of Henry 2 nd , Avhen the lodges Avere superintended by the Grand Master of Knights Templar , Avho employed them in building a Temple in Fleet-street in the year 1155 . Masonry continued under the patronage of

the Order till the year . 1199 , Avhen John succeeded Richard 1 st on the throne of England , and Peter de Colechurch Avas then appointed Grand Master ( Fncyclopcedy ' ut , Londinicnsis ) , and there exists not the slightest doubt that Freemasonry was established in York long prior to the eleventh century . I must certainllead guilty to the fact that I cannot

y p prove that the Templars were joyfully received by the Masonic fraternity ; but Bro . Cooke pays but a ' poor compliment to the brotherhood , Avhen he admits any doubt that the Craft would have welcomed their brethren in adversity .

The Templars have always been known , since Pope Eugenius 2 nd invested them Avith the title of Knights of the Temple , as Knight Templars or holy Knights , in Hebrew Kadosh ( La Maconnerie , Tome 1 , p . 436 , ) but this appellation had no connection with the Masonic degree so called , Avhich , indeed , Avas not then in existenceit is very likelencampments ' Avorking the Rose

, y Croix' add the Kadosh to it , but Grand Conclave most properly refuses to recognise mere Masonic degrees as part of the Chivalric Order of the Temple . Bro . Cooke does not require me to tell him why , as Anglicans , Ave could not use the Ancient Ritual for

Correspondence.

enthroning the Grand Master , there is quite triflingenough already with sacred things in Freemasonrv Avithout the Order of the Temple profaning the services of the Roman Catholic Chui-ch . There is no doubt that we have not adhered closely to our ancient statutes , but have our French brethren done better , do they keep the VOAVS of poverty , obedience ,

and chastity , does their Grand Master reside in Palestine , do they don steel armour aud tilt at each other in the Place de Carousel ? But does Bro . Cooke seriously argue that because Ave do not carry out these and many other parts of our duty Ave must necessarily be Freemasons . His brother knights ought to be deeply indebted to him for informing them that Equitissa is the feminine of

Egnes a Knight , some time back he ridiculed the Scotch adoptive system , now he wants to introduce it into the Chivalric Orders . But , after all , what is the main point at issue , what has put our usually good humoured brother into such a fit of ill temper ? It is simply whether a body of English gentlemen , second to none in education , personal

influence , or social position , should continue a connection Avith a society , Avhich appears to me to take every opportunity in its power to sheAv how little it reciprocates their friendship . I hope I shall never feel ashamed to be a Freemason , but , should I ever be so tempted , it would be to see a brothereminently qualified bhis learning to ornament

, y the Craft , forget for even one moment that excellent gift of charity so dear to every Freemason ' s heart , the very bond of peace , and of all virtue . I remain , Dear Sir Knight , yours very fraternallv , SCRUTATOR .

Scottish Knights Templar And The Uninitiated.

SCOTTISH KNIGHTS TEMPLAR AND THE UNINITIATED .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —The correspondence at present being carried on through the columns of THE MAGAZINE as to the connection subsisting between the Templars and Freemasonry is of a highly interesting . character , and being so , it is of the utmost importance that erroneous , statements therein emitted should meet with ] Drompt

correction . It is indeed pleasing to recognise- in the arena of discussion Sir Knights of such acknowledged ability to grapple Avith the question as MattheAV Cooke and Si . H . ShuttleAvorth , and the further elucidation of tho subject under discussion must be looked forward to with interest . " Scrutator" states that " the Scottish Priories have for many years admitted the uniniated . "

Whatever , in this respect , may have been the practice obtaining in former years among the Scottish Priories or Encampments , I can assure "Scrutator" that the having taken the Royal Arch Degre is IIOAV a sine qua non to admission into the Order of the Temple . The statutes of the Chapter-General , and the by-laAVS of subordinate Encampments are alike explicit on this head . The reformation in 1560 had the effect of disuniting the Knight

Templars m this country , and causing the Protestant portion of them to fraternise Avith Freemasons , and to the Democratic branch of the Order it is pretty generally believed are Ave indebted for the impressive ceremonies employed by us in our receptions . The jealousies and hearfcbui-nings for many year . ? existing between the Masonic and Chivalric branches tended to keep the Order in

a very disorganised state ; and it was from the conviction that a reunion of the branches would be tho best security for its prosperity that the heads of both classes agreed to a conference , having for its object the remodelling of their Constitution , and adopting such other measures as would put an end to former jealousies , and at the same time purge Che Masonic section of the Order of those impurities which the very loose and disorganised system of working the degree had introduced . It is quite true that at one period of the history ; of the Order in Scotland , and

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"MY STARS AND GARTERS." — PAST MASTERS AND THE PAST MASTERS DEGREE. Article 1
SCOTLAND.—THE ROYAL ARCH SCHISM. Article 4
NORTHAMPTONSHIRE ARCHITECTURAL SOCIETY. Article 5
NEW CONTRIVANCES ANCILLARY TO ENGINEERING.* Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
SCOTTISH KNIGHTS TEMPLAR AND THE UNINITIATED. Article 12
"MY STARS AND GARTERS." Article 13
RECENT CORRESPONDENCE. Article 14
WHO HAVE THE RIGHT OF BALLOT? Article 14
Untitled Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
MARK MASONRY. Article 16
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 16
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 17
Poetry. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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the chivalric degrees cannot be allowed to be performed on Grand Lodge property , condescendingly telling us that Ave may be permitted to find a home in the tavern to be attached to the neAV Masonic Hall ; and the same article ranks us Avith the Odd Felloivs , & c ., and yet Bro . Cooke coolly tells us we are a Masonic body . I cannot reduce the Knight Templar at one swoop to

be an armed secret societ j ' , for , however derogatory it may appear to Bro . Cooke , Ave cannot help ourselves , for we are so , but though Ave xaaj be , strictly speaking , incompetent , to claim exemption under the Act of 1789 , there is very little chance of such an Act being put in force against us , though how our being an illegal society , if such is the fact , can make us Freemasons , I cannot pretend to understand .

So long as Ave admit Masons only to the honour of Knighthood , Ave must insist upon candidates being properly qualified , but there is no clause in our charter of constitution rendering it compulsory upon us to admit Freemasons only . The Duke of Sussex Avas Grand Prior of England under . he French constitution , but he was installed Grand

Master of the Holy Temple and Sepulchre , and of Saint John of Jerusalem ; August 6 tb , 1862 , he never issued auy warrant of confirmation , nor , if he did , was any such necessary . Bro . Cooke was joking when he accused me of making Walter deCliffcon Grand Master to Prince Charles Stuart , for he knows perfectly Avell , that inserting a comma after

the AA'ords Grand Master , which the compositor omitted to do , though it was in my copy , would have rendered my meaning perfectly plain , viz .: that the Scotch Templars claim an uninterrupted descent from Walter de Clifton , Grand Preceptor of Scotland in 1309 , and afterwards Grand Master , down to Prince Charles Edward Stuart , Avho Avas elected Grand Master in 1745 ; my printed copy of the Duke of Perth ' s letter is dated 1745—in page 256 of tho MAGAZINE it is dated 1746 , a difference of one year .

Is such . quibbling worthy of Bro . Cooke ? I never said that the conversion of Edwin by his wife confirmed the tradition that he Avas Grand Master , but that it was an historical fact that Edwin laid the foundation of the first stone cathedral in York ; and in Masonic anguage , that Avould mean Echvin , by laying such foundation , would be said to have sat or acted as Grand Master

Mason ; and it would be well for Masonry if all her traditions could be so strongly supported . But , leaving the sixth century , we will come to tho reign , of Henry 2 nd , Avhen the lodges Avere superintended by the Grand Master of Knights Templar , Avho employed them in building a Temple in Fleet-street in the year 1155 . Masonry continued under the patronage of

the Order till the year . 1199 , Avhen John succeeded Richard 1 st on the throne of England , and Peter de Colechurch Avas then appointed Grand Master ( Fncyclopcedy ' ut , Londinicnsis ) , and there exists not the slightest doubt that Freemasonry was established in York long prior to the eleventh century . I must certainllead guilty to the fact that I cannot

y p prove that the Templars were joyfully received by the Masonic fraternity ; but Bro . Cooke pays but a ' poor compliment to the brotherhood , Avhen he admits any doubt that the Craft would have welcomed their brethren in adversity .

The Templars have always been known , since Pope Eugenius 2 nd invested them Avith the title of Knights of the Temple , as Knight Templars or holy Knights , in Hebrew Kadosh ( La Maconnerie , Tome 1 , p . 436 , ) but this appellation had no connection with the Masonic degree so called , Avhich , indeed , Avas not then in existenceit is very likelencampments ' Avorking the Rose

, y Croix' add the Kadosh to it , but Grand Conclave most properly refuses to recognise mere Masonic degrees as part of the Chivalric Order of the Temple . Bro . Cooke does not require me to tell him why , as Anglicans , Ave could not use the Ancient Ritual for

Correspondence.

enthroning the Grand Master , there is quite triflingenough already with sacred things in Freemasonrv Avithout the Order of the Temple profaning the services of the Roman Catholic Chui-ch . There is no doubt that we have not adhered closely to our ancient statutes , but have our French brethren done better , do they keep the VOAVS of poverty , obedience ,

and chastity , does their Grand Master reside in Palestine , do they don steel armour aud tilt at each other in the Place de Carousel ? But does Bro . Cooke seriously argue that because Ave do not carry out these and many other parts of our duty Ave must necessarily be Freemasons . His brother knights ought to be deeply indebted to him for informing them that Equitissa is the feminine of

Egnes a Knight , some time back he ridiculed the Scotch adoptive system , now he wants to introduce it into the Chivalric Orders . But , after all , what is the main point at issue , what has put our usually good humoured brother into such a fit of ill temper ? It is simply whether a body of English gentlemen , second to none in education , personal

influence , or social position , should continue a connection Avith a society , Avhich appears to me to take every opportunity in its power to sheAv how little it reciprocates their friendship . I hope I shall never feel ashamed to be a Freemason , but , should I ever be so tempted , it would be to see a brothereminently qualified bhis learning to ornament

, y the Craft , forget for even one moment that excellent gift of charity so dear to every Freemason ' s heart , the very bond of peace , and of all virtue . I remain , Dear Sir Knight , yours very fraternallv , SCRUTATOR .

Scottish Knights Templar And The Uninitiated.

SCOTTISH KNIGHTS TEMPLAR AND THE UNINITIATED .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —The correspondence at present being carried on through the columns of THE MAGAZINE as to the connection subsisting between the Templars and Freemasonry is of a highly interesting . character , and being so , it is of the utmost importance that erroneous , statements therein emitted should meet with ] Drompt

correction . It is indeed pleasing to recognise- in the arena of discussion Sir Knights of such acknowledged ability to grapple Avith the question as MattheAV Cooke and Si . H . ShuttleAvorth , and the further elucidation of tho subject under discussion must be looked forward to with interest . " Scrutator" states that " the Scottish Priories have for many years admitted the uniniated . "

Whatever , in this respect , may have been the practice obtaining in former years among the Scottish Priories or Encampments , I can assure "Scrutator" that the having taken the Royal Arch Degre is IIOAV a sine qua non to admission into the Order of the Temple . The statutes of the Chapter-General , and the by-laAVS of subordinate Encampments are alike explicit on this head . The reformation in 1560 had the effect of disuniting the Knight

Templars m this country , and causing the Protestant portion of them to fraternise Avith Freemasons , and to the Democratic branch of the Order it is pretty generally believed are Ave indebted for the impressive ceremonies employed by us in our receptions . The jealousies and hearfcbui-nings for many year . ? existing between the Masonic and Chivalric branches tended to keep the Order in

a very disorganised state ; and it was from the conviction that a reunion of the branches would be tho best security for its prosperity that the heads of both classes agreed to a conference , having for its object the remodelling of their Constitution , and adopting such other measures as would put an end to former jealousies , and at the same time purge Che Masonic section of the Order of those impurities which the very loose and disorganised system of working the degree had introduced . It is quite true that at one period of the history ; of the Order in Scotland , and

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