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Masonic Notes And Queries.

the Eomans made the innovation of the Five Orders . Consequently , neither ILA . nor Solomon could knoiv anything about Avhat was not invented until several centuries after their death . I trust brethren will see the necessity of making a distinction between the Three Grecian Orders and the Five Eoman Orders , when , the chronology of architecture being better understood , we will have no more allusions at least to the Tuscan and Composite in connexion with Solomon .

I had no intention of finding fault with , or disputing the propriety of , brethren speaking about the coexistence of Solomon and the Three Grecian Orders •yet , notwithstanding the quotation from Josephus on page 209 , 1 do not know that even the Grecian Corinthian Avas in existence so early as Solomon . Ifc is a question if Josephus could have shown any proof that

Solomon really built his house " according to the Corinthian Order . " Can "Eosa Crucis" point to any Grecian specimen of Corinthian erected 1000 years B . C . ? There is ( I hope I will not be misunderstood ) iu a Masonic point of view too much stress laid upon the

Temple of Solomon . As a building it was undoubtedly a fine one , yefc we may belieA'e there were other buildings erected about that time as good specimens of architecture as ifc was . Ifc was not built b g those whom ifc was built for . It is the reli gious ideas fixed in our minds connected with Solomon ' s Temple that give it its great interest

our eyes . I am not one of the believers in the popularly understood connexion believed to exist between Solomon ' s Temple and modern Freemasonry . I go in with the idea of the origin of Freemasonry being with the building fraternities of the middle ages . It is easy to conceive thafc many allusions would be made to

, and illustrations drawn from , the building of Solomon ' s Temple , as Avell as other matters mentioned in the Bible fco excite and stimulate the brethren . Such Scriptural allusions and quotations Avere customary with writers of the llth and 12 th centuries ; thereafter , what was merely used in illustration came

ultimately in process of time to he considered as fact . " Yet , while I support the idea of the Freemasons being the direct descendants or representatives of the building fraternities of the middle ages , yet , in a sense , as Masons , these building fraternities Avere on their part the descendants of the architectural fathers

of pre-Christian times . —PICTUS . P . S . —Although Bro . "Eosa Crucis " alludes to me on page 209 , 1 am not the correspondent to whom he " replies . " —PICTUS .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . MASONIC CAD GEES .

TO THE EDITOB OS ME MEEUMSOXS' 3 IAGAZI . YE ASD MASO . VIC MIJ 1 BOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —I know of two lodges iu an adjoining province that have been victimized \ er / heavily during the last three years by impostors . Neither of those lodges nor either of their officers read your Magazine , or they Avould have been put on their guard and been saved , in one lodge £ 8 and the other £ Q 10 s . These sums ivould have paid for 12

Correspondence.

copies of the Freemasons' Magazine for two years , and dissemminated Masonic knowledge and intelligence where it Avould , I knoAV , be very useful ; or , if each lodge had subscribed for the two years it Avould have covered that expense and left £ S i 6 s . for distribution amongst worthy objects of charity , inste . id of the £ 1-110 s . going into the pockets of p lausible swindlers

, through the wilful blindness aud neglect of the proper precautions which the trustees of the charitable contributions of others should exercise . Tours fraternally , " O . A'E AVHO AVOULD HAVE BEEN A YLCTILT TOO , BUT POR XOUR HAGAZIXE . "

Masonic Impostors.

MASONIC IMPOSTORS .

TO THE EDITOR 01 ? THE EREE 1 IASOXS ilAGAZIXE AND ATASONIC ATIEEOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I am , as the Treasurer of a lodge iu this northern province , and as one holding a municipal appointment , Avell known in my own neighbourhood , aucl , perhaps beyond it , and the consequence is that for many years past I have been deputed to distribute to the needy the monies of

various charitable societies and persons . Although I have been a Freemason for nearly a quarter of a century , I never saw or heard of your newspaper , THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR ; ifc is , however , Avith a degree of shame that I confess my ignorance and shortcomings , for I

Avould most willingly bave subscribed for it for years past had I known of its existence . Well , Sir , better late than never . As I called upon a member of my lodge fund committee on Monday to go over my accounts , and I had to produce my vouchers , when I came to some

I . O . IT . ' s » for monies advanced on loan to various travelling brethren , my brother committee-man broke forth iu a hearty laugh , but , iu explaining to me the cause , handed to me a copy of your valuable Magazine oi Saturday last , and called my attention to a letter signed "D . P . G . M ., " referring to the case of Seigmund Sax , who told me nearly the same storv and

produced similar documents to me , and he certainly succeeded in drawing me ol' a larger sum than I usually part with from the charity fund . Sir , your correspondent , "D . P . G . M ., " has done a good service to the Graft ; aud I i ' eel sure thafc the charitable funds of our Order might to au enormous extent be conserved arid a much larger amount of

real good be done if all such cases , and cases of a suspicious character , ivere communicated to you promptly , that you might use your discretion as to publishing or withholding their contents from your pages . You ivould soon be able to judge Avhich ivere impostors or traders on Masonry and ivhich ivere simpl y

unfortunate but deserving brethren . Then , Sir , too , as I now find there is a weekly journal devoted exclusively to our Masonic Order , I consider ifc is indisputably the duty of evez * y lodge to subscribe for and receive from your office the Magazine Aveekly , so that their funds may be , as far as jiossible ,

properly applied , aud that those entrusted with the lodge funds may be properly forewarned . Had j knoAvn of the Freemasons' Magazine , during the laafc 12 years afc least £ 60 of my lodge funds might have been saA * ed and applied—as it turns out—to relieve more deserving objects . I say , therefore , eA'ery "W . M . and the Treasurer of a lodge should have the Free-

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THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 1
CHAPTER II. Article 2
FREEMASONRY IN TASMANIA. Article 5
A MASONIC INSURANCE SOCIETY. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
MASONIC IMPOSTORS. Article 11
DUTIES OF OFFICERS. Article 12
D. P. G. M. Article 12
HIGH DEGREES AND SHAM DEGREES. Article 12
MASONIC RELIEF IN THE PROVINCES. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
SCOTLAND. Article 16
IRELAND. Article 16
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 16
BRITISH AMERICA. Article 16
SOUTH AFRICA. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 19
ROSE CROIX. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
THE MASONIC RITUAL. Article 20
THE GOOD MAN. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING SEPTEMBER 26th, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

the Eomans made the innovation of the Five Orders . Consequently , neither ILA . nor Solomon could knoiv anything about Avhat was not invented until several centuries after their death . I trust brethren will see the necessity of making a distinction between the Three Grecian Orders and the Five Eoman Orders , when , the chronology of architecture being better understood , we will have no more allusions at least to the Tuscan and Composite in connexion with Solomon .

I had no intention of finding fault with , or disputing the propriety of , brethren speaking about the coexistence of Solomon and the Three Grecian Orders •yet , notwithstanding the quotation from Josephus on page 209 , 1 do not know that even the Grecian Corinthian Avas in existence so early as Solomon . Ifc is a question if Josephus could have shown any proof that

Solomon really built his house " according to the Corinthian Order . " Can "Eosa Crucis" point to any Grecian specimen of Corinthian erected 1000 years B . C . ? There is ( I hope I will not be misunderstood ) iu a Masonic point of view too much stress laid upon the

Temple of Solomon . As a building it was undoubtedly a fine one , yefc we may belieA'e there were other buildings erected about that time as good specimens of architecture as ifc was . Ifc was not built b g those whom ifc was built for . It is the reli gious ideas fixed in our minds connected with Solomon ' s Temple that give it its great interest

our eyes . I am not one of the believers in the popularly understood connexion believed to exist between Solomon ' s Temple and modern Freemasonry . I go in with the idea of the origin of Freemasonry being with the building fraternities of the middle ages . It is easy to conceive thafc many allusions would be made to

, and illustrations drawn from , the building of Solomon ' s Temple , as Avell as other matters mentioned in the Bible fco excite and stimulate the brethren . Such Scriptural allusions and quotations Avere customary with writers of the llth and 12 th centuries ; thereafter , what was merely used in illustration came

ultimately in process of time to he considered as fact . " Yet , while I support the idea of the Freemasons being the direct descendants or representatives of the building fraternities of the middle ages , yet , in a sense , as Masons , these building fraternities Avere on their part the descendants of the architectural fathers

of pre-Christian times . —PICTUS . P . S . —Although Bro . "Eosa Crucis " alludes to me on page 209 , 1 am not the correspondent to whom he " replies . " —PICTUS .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . MASONIC CAD GEES .

TO THE EDITOB OS ME MEEUMSOXS' 3 IAGAZI . YE ASD MASO . VIC MIJ 1 BOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —I know of two lodges iu an adjoining province that have been victimized \ er / heavily during the last three years by impostors . Neither of those lodges nor either of their officers read your Magazine , or they Avould have been put on their guard and been saved , in one lodge £ 8 and the other £ Q 10 s . These sums ivould have paid for 12

Correspondence.

copies of the Freemasons' Magazine for two years , and dissemminated Masonic knowledge and intelligence where it Avould , I knoAV , be very useful ; or , if each lodge had subscribed for the two years it Avould have covered that expense and left £ S i 6 s . for distribution amongst worthy objects of charity , inste . id of the £ 1-110 s . going into the pockets of p lausible swindlers

, through the wilful blindness aud neglect of the proper precautions which the trustees of the charitable contributions of others should exercise . Tours fraternally , " O . A'E AVHO AVOULD HAVE BEEN A YLCTILT TOO , BUT POR XOUR HAGAZIXE . "

Masonic Impostors.

MASONIC IMPOSTORS .

TO THE EDITOR 01 ? THE EREE 1 IASOXS ilAGAZIXE AND ATASONIC ATIEEOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I am , as the Treasurer of a lodge iu this northern province , and as one holding a municipal appointment , Avell known in my own neighbourhood , aucl , perhaps beyond it , and the consequence is that for many years past I have been deputed to distribute to the needy the monies of

various charitable societies and persons . Although I have been a Freemason for nearly a quarter of a century , I never saw or heard of your newspaper , THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR ; ifc is , however , Avith a degree of shame that I confess my ignorance and shortcomings , for I

Avould most willingly bave subscribed for it for years past had I known of its existence . Well , Sir , better late than never . As I called upon a member of my lodge fund committee on Monday to go over my accounts , and I had to produce my vouchers , when I came to some

I . O . IT . ' s » for monies advanced on loan to various travelling brethren , my brother committee-man broke forth iu a hearty laugh , but , iu explaining to me the cause , handed to me a copy of your valuable Magazine oi Saturday last , and called my attention to a letter signed "D . P . G . M ., " referring to the case of Seigmund Sax , who told me nearly the same storv and

produced similar documents to me , and he certainly succeeded in drawing me ol' a larger sum than I usually part with from the charity fund . Sir , your correspondent , "D . P . G . M ., " has done a good service to the Graft ; aud I i ' eel sure thafc the charitable funds of our Order might to au enormous extent be conserved arid a much larger amount of

real good be done if all such cases , and cases of a suspicious character , ivere communicated to you promptly , that you might use your discretion as to publishing or withholding their contents from your pages . You ivould soon be able to judge Avhich ivere impostors or traders on Masonry and ivhich ivere simpl y

unfortunate but deserving brethren . Then , Sir , too , as I now find there is a weekly journal devoted exclusively to our Masonic Order , I consider ifc is indisputably the duty of evez * y lodge to subscribe for and receive from your office the Magazine Aveekly , so that their funds may be , as far as jiossible ,

properly applied , aud that those entrusted with the lodge funds may be properly forewarned . Had j knoAvn of the Freemasons' Magazine , during the laafc 12 years afc least £ 60 of my lodge funds might have been saA * ed and applied—as it turns out—to relieve more deserving objects . I say , therefore , eA'ery "W . M . and the Treasurer of a lodge should have the Free-

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