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Masonic Impostors.

masons'' Mar / azine filed for reference ; and I am certain if every lodge paid for it their charity fund would be a great gainer ; I look upon ifc , in fact , as a very good investment . Tours fraternally , A P . M .

Duties Of Officers.

DUTIES OF OFFICERS .

10 THE EDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir aud Brother , —Through you I tender my thanks to tbe brethren who have replied to my question as to the status of a non-subscribing Mason . Bro . E . T . very boldly asserts iu your issue of August 22 nd that a P . M . is a P . M . ( I do not comprehend his meaningexcept iu the sense " Once a priest

, always a priest , " ) and that he can perform any or all of the duties of an Installed Master , although he be not a subscribing member to any lodge . Will Bro . E . T . pi'ove his position from the Book of Constitutions , and at the same time explain the Article which says" A member ceasing to subscribe shall not visit a

, lodge but once during his secession ? " I venture to submit to him that a lodge permitting a non subscribing Mason to visit and work the ceremonies is violating the constitutions . He very properly says that the Tyler is one of the seven officers of the lodge ,

and is entitled to respect , & e . I haA'e not said otherwise . Will Bro . E . T . show your readers if any officers of the lodge other than the Secretary is exempt from payment of dues P I will not refer to the extraneous matter introduced into the latter part of his contribution , except to say that it confirms belief that to discuss

constitumy tional principles personal matters must be kept out of sight . . The remarks of Bro . W . P . B . are altogether beside the question . His quoting Simon Magus savours a little of the practice of drawing a red herring across the scent . The remark of Bro . Hughan is much

more to the point . I hope he will return to the subject , and sustain his position by reference to the Book '" of Constitutions , which , after all , is the only standard by which the subject must be settled . Tours fraternally , A T / P U A .

D. P. G. M.

D . P . G . M .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , — A correspondent , D . P . G . M ., Avrites about " tho relative positions of the P . G . Masters and their Deputies , aud the anomalous status of the latter as regards the Craft in general . " The Craft in general fully appreciate the "

services of the D . P . G . Masters , and so does the M . W . G . M . Their status is Avell JmoAvu and their labours frequently reAvarded . Ifc is nofc every D . P . G . M . AVIIO has the same claim , but after a D . P . G . M . has governed his province for some years , representing nob only the R . W . P . G . M ., but the '

M . W . G . M ., and performing his functions , he is often rewarded by the M . W . G . M . ivith permanent rank , and there are instances of a D . P . G . M . being advanced to the high position of G . S . B ., being thereby brought into immediate personal proximity to the M . W . G . M . and the nearest office he can hold . Some may look

D. P. G. M.

forward even to the honour of Grand Pursuivant or his past rank . This is hardly an " anomaly . " Yours fraternally , ANOTHER D . P . G . M .

High Degrees And Sham Degrees.

HIGH DEGREES AND SHAM DEGREES .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Bro . Harris would nofc demean himself by answering such an epistle as that of A . & A . ; but his many old friends and admirers cannot but feel shocked that one so much respected and looked up to iu his own immediate circle should be so cruelly aspersed and suspected of having

anything to do with sham degrees aud be called a simpleton iuto the bargain . Is it Masonic to call a P . M . a simpleton ? Cannot a complaint be laid before Grand Lodge or the Supreme Congregation of . the Order of the Garter ? How can a P . M . be a simpleton ; does ifc nofc require great learning and

profound science to be a P . M . ? Bro . Harris has always been respected in his circle for the manner in ivhich he performs all the ceremonies when asked ; for his after dinner speeches , for his songs , recitations , and sentiments , and it is universally agreed that no one knows so much of Masonry as BroHarris

. . It will take a great deal of " quiefc contempt " to put down Bro . Harris . Bro . Harris has composed a number of things , and is now engaged in deriving Masonry from the Hindoo . The " iveaker brethren " may well feel proud of Bro . Harris . A . & A . ( double

Ass ) would greatly admire the amiability of Bro . Harris ; he is always ready to oblige . The Order of the Garter cannot be called a sham degree , because everybody knows there is an Order of the Garter , and he can see ifc anywhere . Ifc is quite open to Bro . Harris to do what other respectable brethren do in other degreesto improve the

, Order of the Garter , and to make ifc more ancient ; and honourable by adapting it to Masonry , and by adapting Masonry to the Order of the Garter , conferring an advantage on both , aud admitting Masons to the Order of the Garter who otherwise would never be able to enter the Order . Bro . Harris's

degrees are as good as other people's degrees and quite as cheap , and he is assured that many respectable men are quite Avilling to take them and to take high office . Bro . Harris would rather have been called a quack and a mountebank than a simpletonfor ignorant

, brethren like A . & A . may nofc be able to understand and enjoy his recondite learning , and he does nofc pretend fco be a worldly scholar , bufc the science of Masonry , once initiated , will save auy man from being a simpleton in any kind of learning . Tours fraternally , M . M .

Masonic Relief In The Provinces.

MASONIC RELIEF IN THE PROVINCES .

TO THE I-DITOIt OF THE FRKEHASON 5 ' MAOAZlNE AND . 'U'JONIC MlilltOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I can corroborate the letter of D . P . G . M . which appeared in your last number . An application was made to me about three months ago , as Secretary of my lodge , the W . M . being from home , by Siegmund Sax , for a temporary loan of £ 5

to enable him to return to Hamburg . He gave me the same reasons for the request , ancl produced the same documents that are mentioned in the letter , and

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THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 1
CHAPTER II. Article 2
FREEMASONRY IN TASMANIA. Article 5
A MASONIC INSURANCE SOCIETY. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
MASONIC IMPOSTORS. Article 11
DUTIES OF OFFICERS. Article 12
D. P. G. M. Article 12
HIGH DEGREES AND SHAM DEGREES. Article 12
MASONIC RELIEF IN THE PROVINCES. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
SCOTLAND. Article 16
IRELAND. Article 16
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 16
BRITISH AMERICA. Article 16
SOUTH AFRICA. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 19
ROSE CROIX. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
THE MASONIC RITUAL. Article 20
THE GOOD MAN. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING SEPTEMBER 26th, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Impostors.

masons'' Mar / azine filed for reference ; and I am certain if every lodge paid for it their charity fund would be a great gainer ; I look upon ifc , in fact , as a very good investment . Tours fraternally , A P . M .

Duties Of Officers.

DUTIES OF OFFICERS .

10 THE EDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir aud Brother , —Through you I tender my thanks to tbe brethren who have replied to my question as to the status of a non-subscribing Mason . Bro . E . T . very boldly asserts iu your issue of August 22 nd that a P . M . is a P . M . ( I do not comprehend his meaningexcept iu the sense " Once a priest

, always a priest , " ) and that he can perform any or all of the duties of an Installed Master , although he be not a subscribing member to any lodge . Will Bro . E . T . pi'ove his position from the Book of Constitutions , and at the same time explain the Article which says" A member ceasing to subscribe shall not visit a

, lodge but once during his secession ? " I venture to submit to him that a lodge permitting a non subscribing Mason to visit and work the ceremonies is violating the constitutions . He very properly says that the Tyler is one of the seven officers of the lodge ,

and is entitled to respect , & e . I haA'e not said otherwise . Will Bro . E . T . show your readers if any officers of the lodge other than the Secretary is exempt from payment of dues P I will not refer to the extraneous matter introduced into the latter part of his contribution , except to say that it confirms belief that to discuss

constitumy tional principles personal matters must be kept out of sight . . The remarks of Bro . W . P . B . are altogether beside the question . His quoting Simon Magus savours a little of the practice of drawing a red herring across the scent . The remark of Bro . Hughan is much

more to the point . I hope he will return to the subject , and sustain his position by reference to the Book '" of Constitutions , which , after all , is the only standard by which the subject must be settled . Tours fraternally , A T / P U A .

D. P. G. M.

D . P . G . M .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , — A correspondent , D . P . G . M ., Avrites about " tho relative positions of the P . G . Masters and their Deputies , aud the anomalous status of the latter as regards the Craft in general . " The Craft in general fully appreciate the "

services of the D . P . G . Masters , and so does the M . W . G . M . Their status is Avell JmoAvu and their labours frequently reAvarded . Ifc is nofc every D . P . G . M . AVIIO has the same claim , but after a D . P . G . M . has governed his province for some years , representing nob only the R . W . P . G . M ., but the '

M . W . G . M ., and performing his functions , he is often rewarded by the M . W . G . M . ivith permanent rank , and there are instances of a D . P . G . M . being advanced to the high position of G . S . B ., being thereby brought into immediate personal proximity to the M . W . G . M . and the nearest office he can hold . Some may look

D. P. G. M.

forward even to the honour of Grand Pursuivant or his past rank . This is hardly an " anomaly . " Yours fraternally , ANOTHER D . P . G . M .

High Degrees And Sham Degrees.

HIGH DEGREES AND SHAM DEGREES .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Bro . Harris would nofc demean himself by answering such an epistle as that of A . & A . ; but his many old friends and admirers cannot but feel shocked that one so much respected and looked up to iu his own immediate circle should be so cruelly aspersed and suspected of having

anything to do with sham degrees aud be called a simpleton iuto the bargain . Is it Masonic to call a P . M . a simpleton ? Cannot a complaint be laid before Grand Lodge or the Supreme Congregation of . the Order of the Garter ? How can a P . M . be a simpleton ; does ifc nofc require great learning and

profound science to be a P . M . ? Bro . Harris has always been respected in his circle for the manner in ivhich he performs all the ceremonies when asked ; for his after dinner speeches , for his songs , recitations , and sentiments , and it is universally agreed that no one knows so much of Masonry as BroHarris

. . It will take a great deal of " quiefc contempt " to put down Bro . Harris . Bro . Harris has composed a number of things , and is now engaged in deriving Masonry from the Hindoo . The " iveaker brethren " may well feel proud of Bro . Harris . A . & A . ( double

Ass ) would greatly admire the amiability of Bro . Harris ; he is always ready to oblige . The Order of the Garter cannot be called a sham degree , because everybody knows there is an Order of the Garter , and he can see ifc anywhere . Ifc is quite open to Bro . Harris to do what other respectable brethren do in other degreesto improve the

, Order of the Garter , and to make ifc more ancient ; and honourable by adapting it to Masonry , and by adapting Masonry to the Order of the Garter , conferring an advantage on both , aud admitting Masons to the Order of the Garter who otherwise would never be able to enter the Order . Bro . Harris's

degrees are as good as other people's degrees and quite as cheap , and he is assured that many respectable men are quite Avilling to take them and to take high office . Bro . Harris would rather have been called a quack and a mountebank than a simpletonfor ignorant

, brethren like A . & A . may nofc be able to understand and enjoy his recondite learning , and he does nofc pretend fco be a worldly scholar , bufc the science of Masonry , once initiated , will save auy man from being a simpleton in any kind of learning . Tours fraternally , M . M .

Masonic Relief In The Provinces.

MASONIC RELIEF IN THE PROVINCES .

TO THE I-DITOIt OF THE FRKEHASON 5 ' MAOAZlNE AND . 'U'JONIC MlilltOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I can corroborate the letter of D . P . G . M . which appeared in your last number . An application was made to me about three months ago , as Secretary of my lodge , the W . M . being from home , by Siegmund Sax , for a temporary loan of £ 5

to enable him to return to Hamburg . He gave me the same reasons for the request , ancl produced the same documents that are mentioned in the letter , and

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