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Masonic Notes And Queries.

JEWISH MASONS IN KENT , 1853-1860 . "A Correspondent" is much mistaken . During my Provincial Grand Mastership of Kent , 1 S 53 to 1860 , on the occasion of the annual Festival , the Jewish brothers always formed part of the Grand Lodge procession to a Christian cathedral or church , and were present there at Christian prayers and at a Christian sermon . —CHAELES PUETON COOPER .

A THEORY . Scruple not to abandon a foolish theory , hut beware of attempting to amend it . —A PAST PEOTINCIAL GBAND MASTEE . AN OPINION . "A London Correspondent" likens , an opinion which is not accompanied by reasons to , an anima stricken with barrenness , or a tree bearing no fruit . — A PAST PEOVTNOIAL GBAND MASTEE .

MASONIC RIVALRY IN GLASGOW . There has been a great struggle going on for long among several of our Scottish lodges for precedence in point of antiquity , while the wonderful discoveries that are sometimes made in order to prove an immense pre-historic foundation , are often rather curious . One

of the latest—which , however requires , and it is to be hoped will get further , explanation—is in reference to the Glasgow St . Mungo's Lodge , No . 27 , and its new fates , of " 1051 . " On looking over the list of Scottish Lodges for years back . I find the date of It . Mungo ' s Lodge iven as " 1729 " yet shortlsince

g , y was shown a large and gorgeously painted silk banner with the inscription in large gold letters upon it . " Glasgow Lodge St . Mungo , 27 , A . D . 1051 . " This new date , therefore , assumed by the St . Mungo Lodge throws the Glasgow St . John ' s with its " Malcolm Canmore " fraternity and pretended " 813 th

Anniversary " completely into the shade , for does not " 1051 " carry us hack to the classical times of the immortal Macbeth ? Consequently the query arises has the St . Mungo Lodge lately " discovered" a charter of Maclietk ' s in their favour , or how comes " 1051 " to he on its banner ?—LEO .

BIBLIOGRAPHY OF SECRET SOCIETIES AND OCCULT SCIENCES . The " Athenssum " contains the following : — " An admirable catalogue of works on the Occult Sciences has been printed at Moscow , to the extent , however , of only seventy-five copies . The works catalogued

comprise a portion of the valuable library of Count Alexis TJvarov , containing altogether about 70 , 000 volumes . This library is particularly rich in rare works on the Occult Sciences , and therefore the Count ' s librarian , M . A . Ladrague , has thought fit to commence a projected Catalogue of the whole library

with this portion of it . It is entitled ' Sciences Secretes , ' and contains 1 , 883 articles , classified as follows : Theosophy ; Illuminism ; Secret Societies , both philosophical and political ; "Writings against these ; Freemasonry ; Templars ; Eosicrucians ; Brothers of Asia } Illuminati ; Carbonari , & c ; Alchemy ; Spagiric Medicine , or Chemistry ; Magic , Cabala , Demonology , Divination , Dreams , Astrology

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Prognostics . This classification is followed by an alphabetical index of authors , translators , and commentators , and by an alphabetical index of the titles of anonymous works . BROTHERS OF ASIA . What were the Brothers of Asia referred to above ? Were they a Russian Secret Society ?—B . A .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor it not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents

NEW MASONIC HALL , GLASGOW

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother . —There is a certain propriety in everything , and of course also in Freemasonry . Now in getting up and decorating a Masonic Hall , such , we should expect , would be done in conformity with the purpose for which it was intended . That

such however has not been done in the case of the new Hall of the St . John ' s Lodge , Glasgow will appear from the following description of it , as given in the "Building News " for January 6 th ., which shows only too plainly that the R . W . M ., spoke truly when he said at the consecration " the Masonic emblems had been departed from !" I am vours fraternally , M .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE BUILDIN'G NEWS . Sir . —I observed at page 492 in your last number a notice anent the new Hall of St . John ' s Lodge , Glasgow , in which are several mistakes . I am not aware that said Hall really stands ' due east and west , ' for upon consulting a large of GlasgowI find that

map , , as it fronts Buchanan Street , it must have a considerable dip towards the south at the east end . Then the chair for the Senior Warden is at the loestend , not at the ' east' and there is no 'Grand' but a Junior Warden . However , these are only small verbal errors : the chief point of interest is the Hall and its

decorations , which , in my opinion , are any thing but satisfactory . Freemasonry delights in holding by what it calls ' the ancient landmarks' ; or established usagethese , however , have in this case been discarded , and instead of the approved emblems , symbols , & c , being employed in an ableappropriateartisticandif

-, , , , pos sible , improved manner , Ave find only a paltry , gaudy copy of an Egyptian tomb ! What on earth an Egyptian tomb , or temple either for that matter , has to do with a Freemasonic Hall , I know not , more especially the hall of a lodge which prides itself upon being such a purelCraft lod

y ge . Were the St . John ' s Lodge intending to revive the ' Egyptian Masonry' of the notorious Cagliostro , which flourished for a short time , about eighty years ago , or to practise the rite of Misraim , or something similar , we might see cause why Egyptian symbolism should be iedand ilded Avooden Shinxes & c

cop , g p , , introduced , but as Ave understand such is not their intention , we must consider their innovation a great mistake . Even the manner of carrying out the work is anything but good ; the cornice is all executed in paint , and is most unnecessarily broken into six differ-

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Masonic Notes And Queries.

JEWISH MASONS IN KENT , 1853-1860 . "A Correspondent" is much mistaken . During my Provincial Grand Mastership of Kent , 1 S 53 to 1860 , on the occasion of the annual Festival , the Jewish brothers always formed part of the Grand Lodge procession to a Christian cathedral or church , and were present there at Christian prayers and at a Christian sermon . —CHAELES PUETON COOPER .

A THEORY . Scruple not to abandon a foolish theory , hut beware of attempting to amend it . —A PAST PEOTINCIAL GBAND MASTEE . AN OPINION . "A London Correspondent" likens , an opinion which is not accompanied by reasons to , an anima stricken with barrenness , or a tree bearing no fruit . — A PAST PEOVTNOIAL GBAND MASTEE .

MASONIC RIVALRY IN GLASGOW . There has been a great struggle going on for long among several of our Scottish lodges for precedence in point of antiquity , while the wonderful discoveries that are sometimes made in order to prove an immense pre-historic foundation , are often rather curious . One

of the latest—which , however requires , and it is to be hoped will get further , explanation—is in reference to the Glasgow St . Mungo's Lodge , No . 27 , and its new fates , of " 1051 . " On looking over the list of Scottish Lodges for years back . I find the date of It . Mungo ' s Lodge iven as " 1729 " yet shortlsince

g , y was shown a large and gorgeously painted silk banner with the inscription in large gold letters upon it . " Glasgow Lodge St . Mungo , 27 , A . D . 1051 . " This new date , therefore , assumed by the St . Mungo Lodge throws the Glasgow St . John ' s with its " Malcolm Canmore " fraternity and pretended " 813 th

Anniversary " completely into the shade , for does not " 1051 " carry us hack to the classical times of the immortal Macbeth ? Consequently the query arises has the St . Mungo Lodge lately " discovered" a charter of Maclietk ' s in their favour , or how comes " 1051 " to he on its banner ?—LEO .

BIBLIOGRAPHY OF SECRET SOCIETIES AND OCCULT SCIENCES . The " Athenssum " contains the following : — " An admirable catalogue of works on the Occult Sciences has been printed at Moscow , to the extent , however , of only seventy-five copies . The works catalogued

comprise a portion of the valuable library of Count Alexis TJvarov , containing altogether about 70 , 000 volumes . This library is particularly rich in rare works on the Occult Sciences , and therefore the Count ' s librarian , M . A . Ladrague , has thought fit to commence a projected Catalogue of the whole library

with this portion of it . It is entitled ' Sciences Secretes , ' and contains 1 , 883 articles , classified as follows : Theosophy ; Illuminism ; Secret Societies , both philosophical and political ; "Writings against these ; Freemasonry ; Templars ; Eosicrucians ; Brothers of Asia } Illuminati ; Carbonari , & c ; Alchemy ; Spagiric Medicine , or Chemistry ; Magic , Cabala , Demonology , Divination , Dreams , Astrology

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Prognostics . This classification is followed by an alphabetical index of authors , translators , and commentators , and by an alphabetical index of the titles of anonymous works . BROTHERS OF ASIA . What were the Brothers of Asia referred to above ? Were they a Russian Secret Society ?—B . A .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor it not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents

NEW MASONIC HALL , GLASGOW

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother . —There is a certain propriety in everything , and of course also in Freemasonry . Now in getting up and decorating a Masonic Hall , such , we should expect , would be done in conformity with the purpose for which it was intended . That

such however has not been done in the case of the new Hall of the St . John ' s Lodge , Glasgow will appear from the following description of it , as given in the "Building News " for January 6 th ., which shows only too plainly that the R . W . M ., spoke truly when he said at the consecration " the Masonic emblems had been departed from !" I am vours fraternally , M .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE BUILDIN'G NEWS . Sir . —I observed at page 492 in your last number a notice anent the new Hall of St . John ' s Lodge , Glasgow , in which are several mistakes . I am not aware that said Hall really stands ' due east and west , ' for upon consulting a large of GlasgowI find that

map , , as it fronts Buchanan Street , it must have a considerable dip towards the south at the east end . Then the chair for the Senior Warden is at the loestend , not at the ' east' and there is no 'Grand' but a Junior Warden . However , these are only small verbal errors : the chief point of interest is the Hall and its

decorations , which , in my opinion , are any thing but satisfactory . Freemasonry delights in holding by what it calls ' the ancient landmarks' ; or established usagethese , however , have in this case been discarded , and instead of the approved emblems , symbols , & c , being employed in an ableappropriateartisticandif

-, , , , pos sible , improved manner , Ave find only a paltry , gaudy copy of an Egyptian tomb ! What on earth an Egyptian tomb , or temple either for that matter , has to do with a Freemasonic Hall , I know not , more especially the hall of a lodge which prides itself upon being such a purelCraft lod

y ge . Were the St . John ' s Lodge intending to revive the ' Egyptian Masonry' of the notorious Cagliostro , which flourished for a short time , about eighty years ago , or to practise the rite of Misraim , or something similar , we might see cause why Egyptian symbolism should be iedand ilded Avooden Shinxes & c

cop , g p , , introduced , but as Ave understand such is not their intention , we must consider their innovation a great mistake . Even the manner of carrying out the work is anything but good ; the cornice is all executed in paint , and is most unnecessarily broken into six differ-

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