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    Article MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 20. ← Page 2 of 2
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Masonic Jottings.—No. 20.

resemble the Masonry of the Lodge of mediaeval times ; and the Masonry of the Lodge of mediaeval times would resemble the Masonry of the Lodge of Antient times . The Masonry of the Lodge of antient times could , however , rarel y be true Freemasoui'i-.

VITRUVIUS . A Brother , before finishing his ingenious sketch of an ancient Masons' Lodge , should look again into his Yiu'uvius . The number of sciences , to which the Greek and Roman Architects extended their studies , was not less than ten .

OUR TEACHINGS . My ill—Legend—Apologue—Symbol—Emblem —Prosopopoeia—All these make part of our Masonic Teachings , and those Masons have scant understanding of history who cannot see here tho the most aniient teachings of progressive civilisation ,

THE 1717 THEORY CONTROVERSY . A Metropolitan Brother asks how the numerous aud interesting questions respecting tho rise of Speculative Masonry could possibl y bo affected by a settlement of the 1717 theory controversy . KING SOLOMON AND SIR CHRISTOPHER WREN .

A learned Brother thinks wo should call King Solomon and Sir Christopher Wren " Presidents , " rather than "Grand Masters . " Nevertheless , my brother thinks that Ervin of Steinbach should be called Grand Master ..

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

THE SCHOOL OF P 1 * THAGOItAS . The k'tfKi' of a Brother at Exeter lias reached mo . 'There may have been Masonry in the school of Pythagoras , hut it could not be true Freemasonry , and therefore it could not be lish See

Eng Freemasonry . my communications ' Pythagorieians , " Freemason s Magazine , vol . xvi ., p . 1-8 G , and " The Essenians , Pythagoras , " ibid ... v < 1 . xvii ., p . 210 . See also the Jotting "Pythagoras , " ibid , vol . xxi ., p . 420 . The religious philosophy of Pythagoras cannot be learnt from the Masonic writers ol France aud England . Mbrother will find

y the information he seeks in Tennemanu ' s "History of Philosophy . " of a resume of which a well-known translation happens to be in my possession . I subjoin the title :-- " Manuel de 1 'Histoire de la Philosophic , traduit tie I'AllemanddeTennemann , par Victor Cousin . " Paris -. Ib 29 . Two volumes . —CIIABLES PUUTON

COOPER . HAUPT HUIXE OF STKASBUISG ( P . 3 S 7 ) . The observation about the " Grand Lodge" of Strasburg existing in the 15 th century , aud that it has not

altogether ceased to exist at thia day , is a pure piece of Masonic mystification , hig hly warranted to mislead unthinking and brethren . There was no " Grand Lodge" then . There were central lodges then , and Strasburg was one of these , but these were simply trades unions—unions of operative masons , who knew nothing of our system of Freemasonry which was instituted last century . —TV . P . B .

THE JEWS IN KENT . A Correspondent is mistaken . I have taken the opportunity of recording- —first , that in my late province of Eent there were , iu my time ( 1853 to 1860 ) , no better Freemasons than the Jews ; next , that in that province , during that time , the charitable

donations of the Jewish brothers were , in proportion to their numbers , fully as large as those of the Christian brethren . —See FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE , vol . xvi ., p . 203 , and vol . xix ., p . 209 . In the communication "The Jews , " p . 187 of the present volume , for " English Jews with Masonry certificates , " read " Jews with English Masonry certificates . ''—C . P . COOPEE .

ENGLISH AND GEEMAN AECHITECT 3 AND BUILDEES . 387 . The remark of "A Past Provincial Grand Master " that " tlie German architects and builders brought with them into the old English lodge the germ of what has acquired the name of Speculative Masonry "

is a pure piece of imagination . Eugland in the 12 th and 13 th centuries was ahead of Germany , and in England there were Architects , but the Germans , after learning from the French in the thirteenth century , came to be mere builders and stone-cutters—mere handy steinmetzen . —TV . P . BUCHAN .

OB AIT 1 IASONET AND BHO . HUGHAN . Bro . TV " . C . T . —Our opinions are as wide asunder as are the North and South Poles ; and although your opinions may one day draw nearer to mine , yet hope not that mine will ever draw nearer to yours . Howeverthere is consolation for you . One of the most

, frequent contributors to our good periodical thinks as you think . Bro . Hughan has recorded in his Analysis printed in its columns that " he caunot see how a Master Mason , under the Grand Lodge of England , can be complete without taking the lloyal Arch . ' ( See Freemason ' s Magazinevol . xviii . p . 4-15 ) . This

, announcement created considerable surprise . However , it has , I am told , in no way occasioned misgivings respecting the efficieucy of our noble Craft Masonry . —C . P . COOPEE .

USE OE WHISKY IN SCOTLAND . In the " Gentleman ' s Magazine" for this month there is a letter from " J . T ., " giving extracts from an old manuscript book of accounts , written between the years 17-18 aud 1755 ; and commenting upon it "J . T . " observes : — " In the accounts there is mention of beer , but nothing about whisky , which had not then come into common use except among the upper classes . — PICTUS .

A LIFE-SIZE BUST of our eminent Bro . Herr J . J . Lowenthal ( ofthe Grosvenor Lodge ) , by Bro . C . E . Van Dcnihrsch ( of the Lodge of Israel ) is exhibited at the Royal Academy ^ It is considered n work of art , null the likeness is a very striking one of tho celebrated chessplayer .

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THE HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY IN PORTUGAL. Article 1
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 20. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 5
LADIES AT OUR MASONIC BANQUETS. Article 6
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MASONIC MEMS. Article 7
INSTALLATION OF THE EARL DE GREY AND RIPON AS MOST WORSHIPFUL GRAND MASTER, AND GRAND FESTIVAL. Article 7
Craft Masonry. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH. Article 14
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 14
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 15
TESTIMONIAL TO BRO. R. H. D. JOHNSON, M.R-C.S, P.M. & P.Z. 1,004. Article 16
CONSECRATION OF THE FREEMASONS' HALL, ADELAIDE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA. Article 16
PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND. Article 18
Obituary. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS , &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 28TH MAY, 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Jottings.—No. 20.

resemble the Masonry of the Lodge of mediaeval times ; and the Masonry of the Lodge of mediaeval times would resemble the Masonry of the Lodge of Antient times . The Masonry of the Lodge of antient times could , however , rarel y be true Freemasoui'i-.

VITRUVIUS . A Brother , before finishing his ingenious sketch of an ancient Masons' Lodge , should look again into his Yiu'uvius . The number of sciences , to which the Greek and Roman Architects extended their studies , was not less than ten .

OUR TEACHINGS . My ill—Legend—Apologue—Symbol—Emblem —Prosopopoeia—All these make part of our Masonic Teachings , and those Masons have scant understanding of history who cannot see here tho the most aniient teachings of progressive civilisation ,

THE 1717 THEORY CONTROVERSY . A Metropolitan Brother asks how the numerous aud interesting questions respecting tho rise of Speculative Masonry could possibl y bo affected by a settlement of the 1717 theory controversy . KING SOLOMON AND SIR CHRISTOPHER WREN .

A learned Brother thinks wo should call King Solomon and Sir Christopher Wren " Presidents , " rather than "Grand Masters . " Nevertheless , my brother thinks that Ervin of Steinbach should be called Grand Master ..

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

THE SCHOOL OF P 1 * THAGOItAS . The k'tfKi' of a Brother at Exeter lias reached mo . 'There may have been Masonry in the school of Pythagoras , hut it could not be true Freemasonry , and therefore it could not be lish See

Eng Freemasonry . my communications ' Pythagorieians , " Freemason s Magazine , vol . xvi ., p . 1-8 G , and " The Essenians , Pythagoras , " ibid ... v < 1 . xvii ., p . 210 . See also the Jotting "Pythagoras , " ibid , vol . xxi ., p . 420 . The religious philosophy of Pythagoras cannot be learnt from the Masonic writers ol France aud England . Mbrother will find

y the information he seeks in Tennemanu ' s "History of Philosophy . " of a resume of which a well-known translation happens to be in my possession . I subjoin the title :-- " Manuel de 1 'Histoire de la Philosophic , traduit tie I'AllemanddeTennemann , par Victor Cousin . " Paris -. Ib 29 . Two volumes . —CIIABLES PUUTON

COOPER . HAUPT HUIXE OF STKASBUISG ( P . 3 S 7 ) . The observation about the " Grand Lodge" of Strasburg existing in the 15 th century , aud that it has not

altogether ceased to exist at thia day , is a pure piece of Masonic mystification , hig hly warranted to mislead unthinking and brethren . There was no " Grand Lodge" then . There were central lodges then , and Strasburg was one of these , but these were simply trades unions—unions of operative masons , who knew nothing of our system of Freemasonry which was instituted last century . —TV . P . B .

THE JEWS IN KENT . A Correspondent is mistaken . I have taken the opportunity of recording- —first , that in my late province of Eent there were , iu my time ( 1853 to 1860 ) , no better Freemasons than the Jews ; next , that in that province , during that time , the charitable

donations of the Jewish brothers were , in proportion to their numbers , fully as large as those of the Christian brethren . —See FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE , vol . xvi ., p . 203 , and vol . xix ., p . 209 . In the communication "The Jews , " p . 187 of the present volume , for " English Jews with Masonry certificates , " read " Jews with English Masonry certificates . ''—C . P . COOPEE .

ENGLISH AND GEEMAN AECHITECT 3 AND BUILDEES . 387 . The remark of "A Past Provincial Grand Master " that " tlie German architects and builders brought with them into the old English lodge the germ of what has acquired the name of Speculative Masonry "

is a pure piece of imagination . Eugland in the 12 th and 13 th centuries was ahead of Germany , and in England there were Architects , but the Germans , after learning from the French in the thirteenth century , came to be mere builders and stone-cutters—mere handy steinmetzen . —TV . P . BUCHAN .

OB AIT 1 IASONET AND BHO . HUGHAN . Bro . TV " . C . T . —Our opinions are as wide asunder as are the North and South Poles ; and although your opinions may one day draw nearer to mine , yet hope not that mine will ever draw nearer to yours . Howeverthere is consolation for you . One of the most

, frequent contributors to our good periodical thinks as you think . Bro . Hughan has recorded in his Analysis printed in its columns that " he caunot see how a Master Mason , under the Grand Lodge of England , can be complete without taking the lloyal Arch . ' ( See Freemason ' s Magazinevol . xviii . p . 4-15 ) . This

, announcement created considerable surprise . However , it has , I am told , in no way occasioned misgivings respecting the efficieucy of our noble Craft Masonry . —C . P . COOPEE .

USE OE WHISKY IN SCOTLAND . In the " Gentleman ' s Magazine" for this month there is a letter from " J . T ., " giving extracts from an old manuscript book of accounts , written between the years 17-18 aud 1755 ; and commenting upon it "J . T . " observes : — " In the accounts there is mention of beer , but nothing about whisky , which had not then come into common use except among the upper classes . — PICTUS .

A LIFE-SIZE BUST of our eminent Bro . Herr J . J . Lowenthal ( ofthe Grosvenor Lodge ) , by Bro . C . E . Van Dcnihrsch ( of the Lodge of Israel ) is exhibited at the Royal Academy ^ It is considered n work of art , null the likeness is a very striking one of tho celebrated chessplayer .

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