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New Lodges And New Members.

in our ritual . This will be more particularly pointed out as I proceed with my articles on " Masonic Discipline . " It forms only another instance where there is a want ol consistency and uniformity between the ritual and the " Constitutions . "

Upon principle , I think the permission granted , or which may be assumed to be granted , by authority to the members of an intended lodge to hold meetings and perform ail the ceremonies and functions of Masonry , before it is constituted , radically unsound , and one that might be rescinded with great advantage to the prestige and honour of the Fraternity . It implies

one of two circumstances . Either that we are so eager to obtain new members and new lodges that we cannot request a reasonable and proper delay , or that the " executive " is so poor iu officers qualified to conduct the ceremonial of " constitution , " that a very long notice is required before one can be rendered available for the service . In fact , the very pertinent question presents

itself , what is the use of the ulterior ceremony of " constitution , " if the lodge can perform all the requisite Masonic functions without it ? But can it ? I have assumed that a lodge meeting under a dispensation can . The "Constitutions" says that "the Grand Master may issue a dispensation , authorizing the brethren to meet as a lodge . " I take it the phrase " meet as a lodge" is

, equivalent to a temporary constitution of the lodge , and endows it with all the privileges conferred upon any regularly constituted similar body of Masons . Otherwise , it is quite obvious the brethren do not " meet as a lodge . " If they are debarred from exercising any of the Masonic prerogatives which belong to a lodge , and which fall as a matter of course within its jurisdictionthey

, cannot be said to " meet as a lodge . " In this case , the "dispensation" stands in the place of the warrant of constitution , and there would be no impropriety hi referring to it as such , when presenting it to a candidate . On the other hand , if the phrase " to meet as a lodge "

simply implies , as it very probably may , that the brethren may assemble , open up through the several degrees and close down again , and , in fact , merely go through their Masonic . "facings , " the difficulty is to draw the line where their power begins and where it end . If they cannot initiate or affiliate , pass or raise , can they propose a candidate or member ? If a "dispensation"

confers merely partial powers upon' a lodge , then it is nothing more nor less than the "temporary constitution of an irregular lodge , " and a practice not to be desired among Masons . Not having seen an actual " dispensation , " 1 cannot say whether it- is explicit respecting the powers it confers , or whether it is couched in the same vague and unsatisfactory phraseology as the "

Constitutions " themselves . If it simply authorises the brethren to " meet as a lodge , " I onl y trust that opinion is unanimous respecting the signification of the phrase . The only analagous instance that presents itself to my mind at the present moment is that of a church . All the rites and ceremonies of the Church of England service may be performed in a church without its being consecrated

, although it cannot bo properly considered ecclesiastical property until it has been consecrated . It is quite true that , in an extended sense , any Masonic quorum may hold a lodge , but the absence of the warrant of constitution would nullify ^ any attempt to make , pass , raise , or affiliate . But , in the instance referred to , the " warrant " is virtually replaced by the "dispensation , " and it is

difficult to perceive that it is not endowed with the same authority as its ultimate successor . At any rate , whatever may be the real state of the case , it would be well in the revision of the " Constitutions " to render the whole question beyond doubt , and to introduce a little more lucidity in this as well as in many other instances . Tours fraternally , Cuux .

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THE MASONIC MIRROR . *«* All communications to be addressed to 19 Salisbury-street , " Strand , London , W . C .

Masonic Mems

MASONIC MEMS

L : N IVEKSAI MASONIC CAIENDAR FOE 1869 . —A few remaining copies of tho second edition are for sale at a reduction of 25 percent . BoVAL MASONIC INSTITUTION JOB BOYS . —OCTOBER EJECTION . —Votes are earnestly solicited in behalf of Frank Loud , aged eight and n half years , No . 49 on list of candidates . Girls '

School votes will he equally acceptable for exchange . His late father , Bro . William Loud ( who died suddenly on the 23 rd of May , 1869 , leaving a widow and nine children ) , was initiated in the Prince Edwin Lodge ( No . 125 ) , Hythe , in which lie held the office of Warden . He was also a member of the Invicta Lodge ( No . 709 ) , Ashford , from its foundation , in 1857 , until

his decease , and has been , a subscribing member to Q rand Lodge for eighteen years . His widow and eig ht of the children are entirely dependent upon their friends for support . The case is strongly recommended . Votes are earnestly solicited on behalf of George Albion Coombs , son of the late Bro . George Albion Coombs , who was a member of No . 700 , and a licensed victualler , at

Shooters Hill , Woolwich : died 18 th May , 1866 , leaving two orphan children depending upon their friends for support Proxies thankfully received by Bro . J . Ewart , Royal Carriage Office , Royal Arsenal , Woolwich . The death of Bro . Wm . J . Newman , long connected with , and of late years Superintendent of the Exhibition Department , Crystal Palace , and member of the Crystal Palace Lodge ( No . 742 ) J

whose talents and amiability endeared bim to all who enjoyed the pleasure of his acquaintance , has deprived Ms family of their means of support , as well as of their best and dearest friend . His brethren in Freemasonry are desirous of testifying their respect for the memory of their late brother by presenting one of his sons , who is of suitable age , for education in the Eoyal

Masonic Institution for Boys . In furtherance of this object , votes are earnestly solicited in favour of his son Herbert Horace Newman , for the election in October next . The case is strongly recommended by several influential brethren as a most deserving one . Proxies for Girls' School , " or the Benevolent Institution , thankfully received for the purpose of exchange . Communica . tions and votes may bo forwarded to Bro . W . H , Harper , Crystal Palace , S . E .

PROVINCIAL GEASD LODGE OE SUSSEX . —The annual meeting will take place on Friday , the 27 th inst ., at the Music Eoom of the Eoyal Pavilion , Brighton , at half-past two o ' clock punctually . The B . W . Bro . Lord Pelham , the Pi-ov . G . M . will preside . The banquet will be held at five o ' clock at the Banqueting Room of the Pavilion . PBOVINUIAI . GRAND LODGE OF DORSET . —A meeting will be

held at Sherborne , on the 30 th inst ., at twelvo o ' clock , unde ' the presidency of Bro . J . Gundry , the Prov . G . M . BRETHREN are reminded that the Lodge Music published in several issues of the MAGAZINE , has been re-published in a convenient form for Lodge use , price 2 s . 6 d . POETEAITS of the Et . Hon . the Earl of Dalhousie , K . T-,

G . C . JB ; M . W . G . M . Mason of Scotland , can now be obtained at this office , price 3 s . 6 d . each . Copies , with ornamental border and Masonic emblems printed in gold , on large size paper , can be bad , price 10 s . 6 d .

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THE INAUGURATION FESTIVAL JEWEL. Article 1
THE PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND. Article 1
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
FREEMASONRY ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY-TWO TEARS OLD. Article 6
BIBLES, &c., AND DECAPITATION OF BRO. MELVILLE (p. 129.) Article 8
REVISION OF THE RITUALS. Article 9
NEW LODGES AND NEW MEMBERS. Article 9
Untitled Article 10
MASONIC MEMS Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
MARK MASONRY. Article 13
LAYING THE FOUNDATION STONE OF THE SHERIFF COURT-HOUSE AND NEW HALL AT FORFAR. Article 14
MASONIC PRESENTATION AT THE WORCESTER CATHEDRAL. Article 16
LAYING THE CORNER STONE OF THE MASONIC HALL, CARLETON, NEW BRUNSWICK. Article 17
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 28TH AUGUST, 1869. Article 20
TO CORESPONDENTS. Article 20
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New Lodges And New Members.

in our ritual . This will be more particularly pointed out as I proceed with my articles on " Masonic Discipline . " It forms only another instance where there is a want ol consistency and uniformity between the ritual and the " Constitutions . "

Upon principle , I think the permission granted , or which may be assumed to be granted , by authority to the members of an intended lodge to hold meetings and perform ail the ceremonies and functions of Masonry , before it is constituted , radically unsound , and one that might be rescinded with great advantage to the prestige and honour of the Fraternity . It implies

one of two circumstances . Either that we are so eager to obtain new members and new lodges that we cannot request a reasonable and proper delay , or that the " executive " is so poor iu officers qualified to conduct the ceremonial of " constitution , " that a very long notice is required before one can be rendered available for the service . In fact , the very pertinent question presents

itself , what is the use of the ulterior ceremony of " constitution , " if the lodge can perform all the requisite Masonic functions without it ? But can it ? I have assumed that a lodge meeting under a dispensation can . The "Constitutions" says that "the Grand Master may issue a dispensation , authorizing the brethren to meet as a lodge . " I take it the phrase " meet as a lodge" is

, equivalent to a temporary constitution of the lodge , and endows it with all the privileges conferred upon any regularly constituted similar body of Masons . Otherwise , it is quite obvious the brethren do not " meet as a lodge . " If they are debarred from exercising any of the Masonic prerogatives which belong to a lodge , and which fall as a matter of course within its jurisdictionthey

, cannot be said to " meet as a lodge . " In this case , the "dispensation" stands in the place of the warrant of constitution , and there would be no impropriety hi referring to it as such , when presenting it to a candidate . On the other hand , if the phrase " to meet as a lodge "

simply implies , as it very probably may , that the brethren may assemble , open up through the several degrees and close down again , and , in fact , merely go through their Masonic . "facings , " the difficulty is to draw the line where their power begins and where it end . If they cannot initiate or affiliate , pass or raise , can they propose a candidate or member ? If a "dispensation"

confers merely partial powers upon' a lodge , then it is nothing more nor less than the "temporary constitution of an irregular lodge , " and a practice not to be desired among Masons . Not having seen an actual " dispensation , " 1 cannot say whether it- is explicit respecting the powers it confers , or whether it is couched in the same vague and unsatisfactory phraseology as the "

Constitutions " themselves . If it simply authorises the brethren to " meet as a lodge , " I onl y trust that opinion is unanimous respecting the signification of the phrase . The only analagous instance that presents itself to my mind at the present moment is that of a church . All the rites and ceremonies of the Church of England service may be performed in a church without its being consecrated

, although it cannot bo properly considered ecclesiastical property until it has been consecrated . It is quite true that , in an extended sense , any Masonic quorum may hold a lodge , but the absence of the warrant of constitution would nullify ^ any attempt to make , pass , raise , or affiliate . But , in the instance referred to , the " warrant " is virtually replaced by the "dispensation , " and it is

difficult to perceive that it is not endowed with the same authority as its ultimate successor . At any rate , whatever may be the real state of the case , it would be well in the revision of the " Constitutions " to render the whole question beyond doubt , and to introduce a little more lucidity in this as well as in many other instances . Tours fraternally , Cuux .

Ar01001

THE MASONIC MIRROR . *«* All communications to be addressed to 19 Salisbury-street , " Strand , London , W . C .

Masonic Mems

MASONIC MEMS

L : N IVEKSAI MASONIC CAIENDAR FOE 1869 . —A few remaining copies of tho second edition are for sale at a reduction of 25 percent . BoVAL MASONIC INSTITUTION JOB BOYS . —OCTOBER EJECTION . —Votes are earnestly solicited in behalf of Frank Loud , aged eight and n half years , No . 49 on list of candidates . Girls '

School votes will he equally acceptable for exchange . His late father , Bro . William Loud ( who died suddenly on the 23 rd of May , 1869 , leaving a widow and nine children ) , was initiated in the Prince Edwin Lodge ( No . 125 ) , Hythe , in which lie held the office of Warden . He was also a member of the Invicta Lodge ( No . 709 ) , Ashford , from its foundation , in 1857 , until

his decease , and has been , a subscribing member to Q rand Lodge for eighteen years . His widow and eig ht of the children are entirely dependent upon their friends for support . The case is strongly recommended . Votes are earnestly solicited on behalf of George Albion Coombs , son of the late Bro . George Albion Coombs , who was a member of No . 700 , and a licensed victualler , at

Shooters Hill , Woolwich : died 18 th May , 1866 , leaving two orphan children depending upon their friends for support Proxies thankfully received by Bro . J . Ewart , Royal Carriage Office , Royal Arsenal , Woolwich . The death of Bro . Wm . J . Newman , long connected with , and of late years Superintendent of the Exhibition Department , Crystal Palace , and member of the Crystal Palace Lodge ( No . 742 ) J

whose talents and amiability endeared bim to all who enjoyed the pleasure of his acquaintance , has deprived Ms family of their means of support , as well as of their best and dearest friend . His brethren in Freemasonry are desirous of testifying their respect for the memory of their late brother by presenting one of his sons , who is of suitable age , for education in the Eoyal

Masonic Institution for Boys . In furtherance of this object , votes are earnestly solicited in favour of his son Herbert Horace Newman , for the election in October next . The case is strongly recommended by several influential brethren as a most deserving one . Proxies for Girls' School , " or the Benevolent Institution , thankfully received for the purpose of exchange . Communica . tions and votes may bo forwarded to Bro . W . H , Harper , Crystal Palace , S . E .

PROVINCIAL GEASD LODGE OE SUSSEX . —The annual meeting will take place on Friday , the 27 th inst ., at the Music Eoom of the Eoyal Pavilion , Brighton , at half-past two o ' clock punctually . The B . W . Bro . Lord Pelham , the Pi-ov . G . M . will preside . The banquet will be held at five o ' clock at the Banqueting Room of the Pavilion . PBOVINUIAI . GRAND LODGE OF DORSET . —A meeting will be

held at Sherborne , on the 30 th inst ., at twelvo o ' clock , unde ' the presidency of Bro . J . Gundry , the Prov . G . M . BRETHREN are reminded that the Lodge Music published in several issues of the MAGAZINE , has been re-published in a convenient form for Lodge use , price 2 s . 6 d . POETEAITS of the Et . Hon . the Earl of Dalhousie , K . T-,

G . C . JB ; M . W . G . M . Mason of Scotland , can now be obtained at this office , price 3 s . 6 d . each . Copies , with ornamental border and Masonic emblems printed in gold , on large size paper , can be bad , price 10 s . 6 d .

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