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Speculative Masonry And Bros. Findel And Hughan.

insignificance . There is nothing in these phenomena to alarm us . They have , in all probability , happened constantly for ages past . That we have now means of investigating their nature and measuring their height and velocity , furnishes no cause for anxiety . Rumours of these discoveries have crept into the

papers , ancl , exaggerated by repeated copying and sensational additions , have given rise to these mysterious and uncalled-for predictions . " The sun being such an important Masonic emblem , the above remarks will not be out of place in a Masonic paper . —PICTUS .

ABEOAD ANB AT HOME ( page 47 ) . I am not aware of the Freemasons' Magazine being so far behind other papers in the elucidation of truthful Masonic history . The Germans have done well —more shame if Englishmen are behind them—but as for many others , they are still a long wav off—W . P . B . J

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents FREEMASONRY IN GLASGOW .

10 THE BDITOE OF Tnz FEEESTASONS MAGAZINE AMD MASOKIC MIBEOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —Your correspondent " Bos Albus , " at page 48 , asks Bro . Buehan "to devote his energies to reforming the abuses in the province of Glasgow . " Very good ; only the question rises wh y can't "Bos Albus" devote his own energies to that

object ? lie says there are abuses ; let him give a list of them and attach them himself , and not show the white feather by asking me to do it . I do what I can in my own way—yea , even to "bearding the lion in his den , " if I may so express it , by attacking untruthful remarks or evil customs in the

seat of their promulgation or perpetuation , but I find it to be impossible to please everybody . So long as I am taking long shots at distant triflers it is all ri ght at home— " go it" is the word ; but if I happen to plant my foot upon the corn of some home defect , then the yell gets up I " That was too had "— " We did not expect that , " and so on . " Claw me an' I'll claw you" ( the man ' s heaven ) is a principle that

may be carried too far b y Glasgow Masons as well as ly others . Had we a little less of that , and a little more Masonic truth , high Masonic principle , and courageous , Masonic , outspoken independence amongst us , the Order would be a great gainer , and it would command more respect than it in many cases does . There is far too much paltry time-serving abroad .

Gilding over our faults is not the way to get rid of them : show them up and cast them out is my idea . I would like to see the word " Freemason" and the word " gentleman" to be equivalent . "Bos Albus " asserts that Bro . Buehan " has done very much injury to the cause he professes to support" by writing in the

North British Dail y Mail , but I deny that—more , I fearlessl y assert that it is the Masons themselves who , by their own conduct , do "much injury to the cause they profess to support . " Do they imagine the public are blind , or that men of education cannot see through a stone wall as far as a Mason ? If so , they are greatly mistaken—their sayings and doings

Correspondence.

are commented upon by all and sundry . "By thei deeds ye shall know them" will serve just as well fo Masons as for others . As to the letters in the Mail several well known brethren have signified their approval of them ; even the Mail itself has been thanked for opening its columns for the purpose , and that , too , by Masons ; and as to my last letter which

appeared there , and which was probably the cause of " Bos Albus" writing , and which has probably raised the ire of some Glasgow brethren , I beg leave to append it , so that your readers may judge for themselves . It may also help to show whether or not the Freemasons' Magazine is behind its American contemporaries . Yours fraternally , W . P . BUOHAN .

" EEEEMASONRX IN SCOTLAND . " To the Editor of the NoMHt BRITISH DAIM MAII ,. " Sir , —In the Mail of the 4 th instant I perceive a paragraph , copied from the New York Tribune , giving a description of a lecture delivered on December 22 to the New York Caledonian Club by a Mr . Peter L .

Buchanan , on the ' History of the Scottish Freemasons . " As the description would show , Mr . Buchanan appears to know very little indeed about the real history of the subject of his lecture . I perceive he has got the length of throwing overboard the Adamite theory of the origin of Freemasonry—morehe even

, casts aside the Solomonic ; but the last only by a mere hand-breadth , as we find him observing that he ( the speaker ) ' was content with the theory that it had its ori gin among the Romans ! ' "Wh y did he not go farther , and hail from the Egyptians ? The one had about as much . to do with Freemasonry as the

other . However , there is a tit-bit for the Kilwinningites . He says : — ' In 743 (!) the first lodge of Masons was formed in Scotland at Kilwinning . ' What nonsense ! Even supposing a lodge of operative masons existed at the building of Kilwinning Abbey , that would he within the last seven centuries , i . e ., since the 12 th century , not in the 8 th . However ,

Glasgow Cathedral , Holyrood , Kelso , Melrose , & c , w ere all founded ( whatever the first structures were made of ) before Kilwinning . Then he says , 'In the time of James II . Masonry began to assume some of the forms it has to-day . That monarch appointed William St . Clair and his heirs and successors to he Grand Masters of Scotland" & c . Now that is all a

, mistake ; yet how shall I be too hard upon Mr . Buchanan , when only a few days ago the senior lodge of the Glasgow province had a long notice of its pretended ' 812 th anniversary , ' a pretension utterly at variance with the history of the city , and the foundation of which was a document forgedas I believein

, , 1806 , perhaps as a practical joke , but which was then and since held forth to further the pretensions of the lod ge ; and there are many such documents in existence fabricated since the year 1717 . As I observed at the beginning of last year , so do I find Mr . Pinkertonin 'Notes and Queries' for November 27 th 1869

, , , observing to a similar effect , as follows : — 'I have conducted many antiquarian researches , but I candidly must say that I never have met with such disgusting frauds as have been practised by the Freemasons . ' I most sincerel y hope that , for the credit of the Craft , we have seen the last of this ' S 12 th Anniversary'

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THE RISE AND PURPOSES OF SPECULATIVE MASONRY. Article 1
THE HEBREW BRETHREN OF NEW YORK AND THE DIST. G. MASTER. Article 3
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Untitled Article 6
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 4. Article 7
THE STUARTS AND FREEMASONRY. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
SPECULATIVE MASONRY AND BROS. FINDEL AND HUGHAN. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
Untitled Article 13
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
Craft Masonry. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MAKE MASONRY. Article 18
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND FINE ARTS. Article 18
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 18
REVIEWS. Article 19
PROPOSED MASONIC HALL IN GLASGOW. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 29TH JANUARY, 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Speculative Masonry And Bros. Findel And Hughan.

insignificance . There is nothing in these phenomena to alarm us . They have , in all probability , happened constantly for ages past . That we have now means of investigating their nature and measuring their height and velocity , furnishes no cause for anxiety . Rumours of these discoveries have crept into the

papers , ancl , exaggerated by repeated copying and sensational additions , have given rise to these mysterious and uncalled-for predictions . " The sun being such an important Masonic emblem , the above remarks will not be out of place in a Masonic paper . —PICTUS .

ABEOAD ANB AT HOME ( page 47 ) . I am not aware of the Freemasons' Magazine being so far behind other papers in the elucidation of truthful Masonic history . The Germans have done well —more shame if Englishmen are behind them—but as for many others , they are still a long wav off—W . P . B . J

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents FREEMASONRY IN GLASGOW .

10 THE BDITOE OF Tnz FEEESTASONS MAGAZINE AMD MASOKIC MIBEOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —Your correspondent " Bos Albus , " at page 48 , asks Bro . Buehan "to devote his energies to reforming the abuses in the province of Glasgow . " Very good ; only the question rises wh y can't "Bos Albus" devote his own energies to that

object ? lie says there are abuses ; let him give a list of them and attach them himself , and not show the white feather by asking me to do it . I do what I can in my own way—yea , even to "bearding the lion in his den , " if I may so express it , by attacking untruthful remarks or evil customs in the

seat of their promulgation or perpetuation , but I find it to be impossible to please everybody . So long as I am taking long shots at distant triflers it is all ri ght at home— " go it" is the word ; but if I happen to plant my foot upon the corn of some home defect , then the yell gets up I " That was too had "— " We did not expect that , " and so on . " Claw me an' I'll claw you" ( the man ' s heaven ) is a principle that

may be carried too far b y Glasgow Masons as well as ly others . Had we a little less of that , and a little more Masonic truth , high Masonic principle , and courageous , Masonic , outspoken independence amongst us , the Order would be a great gainer , and it would command more respect than it in many cases does . There is far too much paltry time-serving abroad .

Gilding over our faults is not the way to get rid of them : show them up and cast them out is my idea . I would like to see the word " Freemason" and the word " gentleman" to be equivalent . "Bos Albus " asserts that Bro . Buehan " has done very much injury to the cause he professes to support" by writing in the

North British Dail y Mail , but I deny that—more , I fearlessl y assert that it is the Masons themselves who , by their own conduct , do "much injury to the cause they profess to support . " Do they imagine the public are blind , or that men of education cannot see through a stone wall as far as a Mason ? If so , they are greatly mistaken—their sayings and doings

Correspondence.

are commented upon by all and sundry . "By thei deeds ye shall know them" will serve just as well fo Masons as for others . As to the letters in the Mail several well known brethren have signified their approval of them ; even the Mail itself has been thanked for opening its columns for the purpose , and that , too , by Masons ; and as to my last letter which

appeared there , and which was probably the cause of " Bos Albus" writing , and which has probably raised the ire of some Glasgow brethren , I beg leave to append it , so that your readers may judge for themselves . It may also help to show whether or not the Freemasons' Magazine is behind its American contemporaries . Yours fraternally , W . P . BUOHAN .

" EEEEMASONRX IN SCOTLAND . " To the Editor of the NoMHt BRITISH DAIM MAII ,. " Sir , —In the Mail of the 4 th instant I perceive a paragraph , copied from the New York Tribune , giving a description of a lecture delivered on December 22 to the New York Caledonian Club by a Mr . Peter L .

Buchanan , on the ' History of the Scottish Freemasons . " As the description would show , Mr . Buchanan appears to know very little indeed about the real history of the subject of his lecture . I perceive he has got the length of throwing overboard the Adamite theory of the origin of Freemasonry—morehe even

, casts aside the Solomonic ; but the last only by a mere hand-breadth , as we find him observing that he ( the speaker ) ' was content with the theory that it had its ori gin among the Romans ! ' "Wh y did he not go farther , and hail from the Egyptians ? The one had about as much . to do with Freemasonry as the

other . However , there is a tit-bit for the Kilwinningites . He says : — ' In 743 (!) the first lodge of Masons was formed in Scotland at Kilwinning . ' What nonsense ! Even supposing a lodge of operative masons existed at the building of Kilwinning Abbey , that would he within the last seven centuries , i . e ., since the 12 th century , not in the 8 th . However ,

Glasgow Cathedral , Holyrood , Kelso , Melrose , & c , w ere all founded ( whatever the first structures were made of ) before Kilwinning . Then he says , 'In the time of James II . Masonry began to assume some of the forms it has to-day . That monarch appointed William St . Clair and his heirs and successors to he Grand Masters of Scotland" & c . Now that is all a

, mistake ; yet how shall I be too hard upon Mr . Buchanan , when only a few days ago the senior lodge of the Glasgow province had a long notice of its pretended ' 812 th anniversary , ' a pretension utterly at variance with the history of the city , and the foundation of which was a document forgedas I believein

, , 1806 , perhaps as a practical joke , but which was then and since held forth to further the pretensions of the lod ge ; and there are many such documents in existence fabricated since the year 1717 . As I observed at the beginning of last year , so do I find Mr . Pinkertonin 'Notes and Queries' for November 27 th 1869

, , , observing to a similar effect , as follows : — 'I have conducted many antiquarian researches , but I candidly must say that I never have met with such disgusting frauds as have been practised by the Freemasons . ' I most sincerel y hope that , for the credit of the Craft , we have seen the last of this ' S 12 th Anniversary'

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