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Masonic Notes And Queries.

ANTIQUITY OF FREEMASONRY . "Our Institution can boast of its antiquity , forming the great link between the period when civilization emerged from barbarism into an age in which it has expanded to such noble proportions . It was in the earliest days of Freemasonry that

Natural Religion first beamed on man , the darkness which ushered in his existence began to disappear , and his mind was insensibl y drawn to the contemplation of the works of nature , and up through them to Nature ' s God . " From a bundle of Masonic Excerpts . —CHAEIIES PuBToir COOPER .

PART OF A PRAYER AT INITIATION . " Be with us 0 ! Lord , and bless all our undertakings ; aud grant that this , our friend , may become a faithful brother . Let Grace and Peace he multiplied nuto him through the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ . And grant 0 ! Lord , as he putteth forth his hand to thy Holy Wordthat he may also put forth

, his hand to serve a brother . " The prayer of which the foregoing words form a part , is said to have been in print 80 or 90 years , and to have been regularly used at every initiation b y the Freemasons of the York rite , as well as by many Athol Lodges . " From a bundle of Blasonic Excerpts . —CHAELES PuRTOif COOPER .

" SLIPSLOP . " A communication , metaphorically speaking , may be " slipslop . " But this is a term which , in my judgment , ought not to be employed in the literary controversy of Masons . —A PAST PEOVINCIAII G-RAUD MASTER .

THE IGNORANT MAN . Hope nothing from the ignorant man , until he knows—that he knows not . —A PAST PHOVIJTCIAI GRAND MASTER . A MASONTC CURIOSITY . At the corner of Villiers StreetStrandleading to

, , Hungerford Bridge and Station , and corner of John Street , is a portrait of the late M . W . Bro . H . E . H . the Duke of Sussex , G . M . of England . This was executed by a contemporary brother in pen and ink , and the lines are entirely composed of writing . It is a work of great zeal and labour . —PASSER-BY .

"EUROPEAN MAGAZINE , " The brother who was proprietor of the " European Magazine , " and was not named by you , was Bro . James Asperne , a very active and distinguished Mason in his day , living in Birchin Lane . His portrait was engraved . He was a great loyalist and constitutionalist , and promoted a society for maintaining Pitt ' s administration during the revolutionary war . —NOTA .

ILL . BRO . THE DUKE 01 ? SALDHANA . A very distinguished and very old Mason now in this country is Bro . F . M . the Duke of Saldanha , Ambassador from Portugal half a century ago , and who was persecuted as a Mason during the Miguelite reign and exiled . He was then in friendly communication with the Masons at Plymouth about 1828 . On

removing to Paris he took his place as a Rose > J < in the then flourishing Chapter of St . Louis de Martinique . On his restoration to his country he became a consistent supporter of Masonry . —H . M .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC HISTORY OP WAR . A very interesting little book might bo made by compiling the various anecdotes from Euglish , American , and French sources , relating to aid to brethren given to Masons during war . This would find materials in the wars of tbe last century ; in the

American War of independence , in the great revolutionary war , in the American War of secession , and again in the Franco-Prussian War . There are more examples perhaps in the chronicles of the sea , than of the land . The pages of the F . M . Mag . would afford considerable matter .

If the title were " Masonry by Land and by Sea in Times of Peril , " then it mi ght embrace the numerous cases of assistance given to seafaring brethren in times of wreck and disaster . — LECTOE .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

the Editor i « not responsible for the opinions expressed be Correspondents ON SUBORDINATION IN THE HIGHER DEGREES AND SPURIOUS RITES . 10 THE EDITOR OS THE PREEHASOHS 1 IAGAZIHE AHD MASOXIC MIBBOB . Dear Sir and Brother—Bro . William Ashworth in

, the columns of your contemporary declares my statement with reference to the price charged for his Rochdale and Todrnorden hi gh degeees , to be a gross fabrication . Nevertheless , lam afraid I must simply reiterate the statement that it is currently reported in Lancashire , that the price charged for them is about

the sura I have stated , viz : Is . 6 d . Indeed , I believe I overstated the amount -, at all events , it is said that at Todrnorden they charge thirteen pence halfpenny for each degree . —Perhaps , Bro . A . shworth has heard of the late Bro . Newall . Verbum

sap . Will Bro . Ashworth kindly tell us , if my information is not correct , what he and his friends do charge for the 30 ° , 31 ° , and 32 ? and whence , apart from so . called time-immemorial ri ghts , they derive their authority to confer them ?

Does Bro . Ashworth fondly imagine that no one has seen Bro . Hughan ' s "Masonic Reprints , " in which that able Mason disposes of Bro . Yarker ' s preposterous claims with reference to these degrees ? _ The Warrant under which these high degrees are given at Eastwood , Todrnorden , was granted by W .

Rodwell Wright , in 1812 , and is simplyan old Templar Warrant , similar to those belonging to the Prudence Encampment , Ipswich ; the Royal Kent , Newcastle ; and I believe the Baidwyn Encampment , Bristol ; and on the strength of its capitation . " To the Knights Companions of the Royal Exalted Religious and

Military Order of H . R . D . M . ; K . D . S . H ., Grand Elected Knights Templar of St . John of Jerusalem , " these brethren claim to be able to confer the highest degrees in the Autient and Accepted Rite . I am aware that the Knights Templar degree was sustained aud and acknowledged by the Grand Lodof all England

ge , at York , so early as 1780 , but the 31 ° and 32 ° , as such , were never given , I may say never heard of at that time . Bro . Ashworth informs me that the Rochdale Chapter , Rose < Z < , which has already been

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FREEMASONRY AND ITS INFLUENCE. Article 1
THE LATE ROMAN GOVERNMENT. Article 2
MASONIC JOTTINGS, No. 66. Article 3
LIGHT COMES FROM THE EAST. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
CAN AN ENTERED APPRENTICE VOTE? Article 8
THE LITTLE TESTIMONIAL FUND. Article 8
THE RITE OF MISRAIM. Article 8
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 9
REVIEWS. Article 9
MASONIC MEMS. Article 10
LODGE OF BENEVOLENCE. Article 10
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 10
Craft Masonry. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
INDIA. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 17
PRESENTATION OF ADDRESS OF CONDOLENCE ON THE DEATH OF BRO. A. P. HAINS, M.D., TOTNES. Article 17
CHESHIRE EDUCATIONAL MASONIC INSTITUTION. Article 17
MASONIC FEMALE ORPHAN SCHOOL, DUBLIN. Article 18
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE MEETINGS &c., FOR WEEK ENDING APRIL 28TH, 1871. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGES AND CHAPTERS OF INSTRUCTION. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

ANTIQUITY OF FREEMASONRY . "Our Institution can boast of its antiquity , forming the great link between the period when civilization emerged from barbarism into an age in which it has expanded to such noble proportions . It was in the earliest days of Freemasonry that

Natural Religion first beamed on man , the darkness which ushered in his existence began to disappear , and his mind was insensibl y drawn to the contemplation of the works of nature , and up through them to Nature ' s God . " From a bundle of Masonic Excerpts . —CHAEIIES PuBToir COOPER .

PART OF A PRAYER AT INITIATION . " Be with us 0 ! Lord , and bless all our undertakings ; aud grant that this , our friend , may become a faithful brother . Let Grace and Peace he multiplied nuto him through the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ . And grant 0 ! Lord , as he putteth forth his hand to thy Holy Wordthat he may also put forth

, his hand to serve a brother . " The prayer of which the foregoing words form a part , is said to have been in print 80 or 90 years , and to have been regularly used at every initiation b y the Freemasons of the York rite , as well as by many Athol Lodges . " From a bundle of Blasonic Excerpts . —CHAELES PuRTOif COOPER .

" SLIPSLOP . " A communication , metaphorically speaking , may be " slipslop . " But this is a term which , in my judgment , ought not to be employed in the literary controversy of Masons . —A PAST PEOVINCIAII G-RAUD MASTER .

THE IGNORANT MAN . Hope nothing from the ignorant man , until he knows—that he knows not . —A PAST PHOVIJTCIAI GRAND MASTER . A MASONTC CURIOSITY . At the corner of Villiers StreetStrandleading to

, , Hungerford Bridge and Station , and corner of John Street , is a portrait of the late M . W . Bro . H . E . H . the Duke of Sussex , G . M . of England . This was executed by a contemporary brother in pen and ink , and the lines are entirely composed of writing . It is a work of great zeal and labour . —PASSER-BY .

"EUROPEAN MAGAZINE , " The brother who was proprietor of the " European Magazine , " and was not named by you , was Bro . James Asperne , a very active and distinguished Mason in his day , living in Birchin Lane . His portrait was engraved . He was a great loyalist and constitutionalist , and promoted a society for maintaining Pitt ' s administration during the revolutionary war . —NOTA .

ILL . BRO . THE DUKE 01 ? SALDHANA . A very distinguished and very old Mason now in this country is Bro . F . M . the Duke of Saldanha , Ambassador from Portugal half a century ago , and who was persecuted as a Mason during the Miguelite reign and exiled . He was then in friendly communication with the Masons at Plymouth about 1828 . On

removing to Paris he took his place as a Rose > J < in the then flourishing Chapter of St . Louis de Martinique . On his restoration to his country he became a consistent supporter of Masonry . —H . M .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC HISTORY OP WAR . A very interesting little book might bo made by compiling the various anecdotes from Euglish , American , and French sources , relating to aid to brethren given to Masons during war . This would find materials in the wars of tbe last century ; in the

American War of independence , in the great revolutionary war , in the American War of secession , and again in the Franco-Prussian War . There are more examples perhaps in the chronicles of the sea , than of the land . The pages of the F . M . Mag . would afford considerable matter .

If the title were " Masonry by Land and by Sea in Times of Peril , " then it mi ght embrace the numerous cases of assistance given to seafaring brethren in times of wreck and disaster . — LECTOE .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

the Editor i « not responsible for the opinions expressed be Correspondents ON SUBORDINATION IN THE HIGHER DEGREES AND SPURIOUS RITES . 10 THE EDITOR OS THE PREEHASOHS 1 IAGAZIHE AHD MASOXIC MIBBOB . Dear Sir and Brother—Bro . William Ashworth in

, the columns of your contemporary declares my statement with reference to the price charged for his Rochdale and Todrnorden hi gh degeees , to be a gross fabrication . Nevertheless , lam afraid I must simply reiterate the statement that it is currently reported in Lancashire , that the price charged for them is about

the sura I have stated , viz : Is . 6 d . Indeed , I believe I overstated the amount -, at all events , it is said that at Todrnorden they charge thirteen pence halfpenny for each degree . —Perhaps , Bro . A . shworth has heard of the late Bro . Newall . Verbum

sap . Will Bro . Ashworth kindly tell us , if my information is not correct , what he and his friends do charge for the 30 ° , 31 ° , and 32 ? and whence , apart from so . called time-immemorial ri ghts , they derive their authority to confer them ?

Does Bro . Ashworth fondly imagine that no one has seen Bro . Hughan ' s "Masonic Reprints , " in which that able Mason disposes of Bro . Yarker ' s preposterous claims with reference to these degrees ? _ The Warrant under which these high degrees are given at Eastwood , Todrnorden , was granted by W .

Rodwell Wright , in 1812 , and is simplyan old Templar Warrant , similar to those belonging to the Prudence Encampment , Ipswich ; the Royal Kent , Newcastle ; and I believe the Baidwyn Encampment , Bristol ; and on the strength of its capitation . " To the Knights Companions of the Royal Exalted Religious and

Military Order of H . R . D . M . ; K . D . S . H ., Grand Elected Knights Templar of St . John of Jerusalem , " these brethren claim to be able to confer the highest degrees in the Autient and Accepted Rite . I am aware that the Knights Templar degree was sustained aud and acknowledged by the Grand Lodof all England

ge , at York , so early as 1780 , but the 31 ° and 32 ° , as such , were never given , I may say never heard of at that time . Bro . Ashworth informs me that the Rochdale Chapter , Rose < Z < , which has already been

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