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burghers in the towns—the latter were free , and some were freeboru . To admit a serf to the privileges of a guild , was to expose the guild aud burgh to hostilities from the baron to Avhom the serf belonged , and hence it was necessary to ascertain the quality of the candidate , and that none but freeborn men \ vere

admitted . A genuine relic of the middle ages , to be identified by any ordinary student of their history , is made a plaything for fanciful inquirers . —LIBER . GOTHIC ARCHITECTURE ; CHRONOLOGICAL TABLE . The following is taken from Mr . Sharpe ' s " Seven Periods of English Architecture : " — Eroin A . D . to A . D .

1 . Saxon Period - - 10 G 6 2 . Norman , or Romanesque Period 1006 - 111-5 3 . Transitional Period - - - 1145 - 1190 4 . Lancet Period - 1190 - 12-15 5 . Geometrical Period - - - 1215 - 1 . 315 6 . Curvilinear Period - - - 1315 - 13 G 0

7 . Rectilinear Period - - - 1360 - 1550 —W . P . BUCHAN . MEDAL . In "Notes and Queries , " 4 th S . III ., p . 427 , "Belfast" writes : — " Any information a brother could

give me relative to the medal I describe would much oblige . Obv . CAROLVS . SACKVILLE . MAGISTER . E . L . NATTER , 1713 . His bust . Rev . AB . ORIGINS . Nudo figure ( the Genius of Secresy ?) left arm resting upon the column ; the cornocupia in the hand ; the plumb rule , the level , the square , aud other emblems of Masonry at his feet . "

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents

MASONIC CELESTIAL MYSTERIES .

"OMNIA VINCIT VERITAS , " VERSUS "EORTIOR QUI MELIOR . " TO TilE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIItr . OK . Dear Sir aud Brother , — "Omnia A'iucit Veritas , " when you can get it ; but truth lies at the bottom of a welland it is not one who cau bring it out

, every ; therefore , "fortior qui melior , " he is the better man who can do so . Eor this some time hack , Bro . Melville has been writing _ upon the wonderful subject of " Celestial Mysteries , " his object being , as he says , to enlighten his brethrenbut as the lettersetcivhich have

; , ., appeared lately in your columns show , his success would seem to have been but small ; in fact , some have taken the liberty of asserting that Bro . Melville ' s " light " has been but " darkness visible . " This has raised Bro . Melville ' s ire , who at page 391 , ivaxing fierce , throws his gauntlet on the ground , daring any in

one propria persona , to take it up . Mrgo—as a humble contributor to the Magazine , I lift it , and shall touch him up a hit . Bro . M . gives out that he is writing for the purpose of imparting instruction to his benighted brethren ; but I am sorry to say that , although I read all his articles , I as yet have received none—from him . In case this was owing to my reading them over too hastily , I , a few nights ago ,

sat clown and perused them all over again , and , for Bro . Melville ' s sake , I am very sorry to say that , having done so , the conclusion I came to wns that the style of Bro . M . ' s articles was far too mystical for common mortals to comprehend or receive any benefit from . I was also almost half-ashamed of own

my ignoi'aneo of , or incapacity to understand , such a sublime subject as " Masonic Celestial Mysteries , " aud asked a few of my acquaintances if they could make anything of it ; but , lo ! they were as bad as myself ; consequently , this set me a thinking , and , remembering that I could with pleasure and edification peruse

the works of some of the best scholars of the day , who have ( what Bro . M . seems to want ) , viz ., the art of making you understand Avhat they mean , thereby imparting to their readers the knowledge which they possess , my courage rose , and , to Bro . Melville ' s delight , no doubt , I do not intend to use here a nam de plume or attack him from " behind a wall , " but face to face .

Bro . Melville writes a great deal about the " points , " but he forgets a most important one—viz ., to write to the " point . " Another silly custom he has , is a pretended anxiety lest he should unwittingly disclose any sacred or important " point . " As a Ereemason , I beg to express my disgust at this pretension . It

is , I consider , a poor , transparent , and unmanly attempt at imposition . Bro . Melville says " the points must not be divulged . " Bosh ! Let Bro . Melville publish or tell all the mysterious points he knoAvs (?); only let him do it in a more concise and intelligible manner than he has yet done . If he cannot do so , the sooner he folloivs the example of Eve aud " elopes " the better .

The great use of language ( when used by anyone who desires to impart instruction ) is to speak so as that what you mean may be easily and at once understood by those to Avhom you are addressing yourself ; so also , if possible , ought it much more to be with Avriting ; and if said writing be intended to he

understood by thosej ^ o . " whom it is Avritten , the meaning of every sentence ought to them to be as clear as day ; "light" sparkling from every word and period ; the writer being a " suu , " and his ivriting a " diamond . " Bro . Melville , however , seems not to have got the length of understanding thishe being simply a

, " cloudy moon " shining upon a piece of coal , alias a " black diamond ; " Avere there sufficient heat in him to set the coal on fire , we might get up a temporary bit of a sparkle ; but , no , there is nothing to be seen or felt throughout the Avhole expanse but " darkness visible . "

Bro . M . asks that such portions of his writings as appear " inconsistent or incomprehensible " should be pointed out to him , aud he will , if in his power , " render them more lucid . " But the great difficulty I find is to discover any substantial portion that is comprehensible , at least to ordinary minds . There

is one wise remark , however , Avhich I shall extract , viz ., " The tropic of Capricornus ending ivhere the tropic of Cancer commences , and consequently Capricornus commencing Avhere Cancer endeth . '' This could only be equalled by another " Masonic Celestial Mystery which I shall give—unless , indeed , Bro . M . has discovered it before me—viz ., the day endeth Avhere the night commences , consequently the day commences where the night endeth .

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MASONIC CELESTIAL MYSTERIES. Article 1
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 4
NUMBERS. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QERIES. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
BRO. MELVILLE'S ARTICLES. Article 13
P.M.'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES. Article 13
BIBLICAL REFERENCES. Article 14
MASONIC CELESTIAL MYSTERIES. Article 14
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 14
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR GIRLS. Article 15
METROPOLITAN. Article 16
PROVINCIAL. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 29TH MAY, 1869. Article 20
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burghers in the towns—the latter were free , and some were freeboru . To admit a serf to the privileges of a guild , was to expose the guild aud burgh to hostilities from the baron to Avhom the serf belonged , and hence it was necessary to ascertain the quality of the candidate , and that none but freeborn men \ vere

admitted . A genuine relic of the middle ages , to be identified by any ordinary student of their history , is made a plaything for fanciful inquirers . —LIBER . GOTHIC ARCHITECTURE ; CHRONOLOGICAL TABLE . The following is taken from Mr . Sharpe ' s " Seven Periods of English Architecture : " — Eroin A . D . to A . D .

1 . Saxon Period - - 10 G 6 2 . Norman , or Romanesque Period 1006 - 111-5 3 . Transitional Period - - - 1145 - 1190 4 . Lancet Period - 1190 - 12-15 5 . Geometrical Period - - - 1215 - 1 . 315 6 . Curvilinear Period - - - 1315 - 13 G 0

7 . Rectilinear Period - - - 1360 - 1550 —W . P . BUCHAN . MEDAL . In "Notes and Queries , " 4 th S . III ., p . 427 , "Belfast" writes : — " Any information a brother could

give me relative to the medal I describe would much oblige . Obv . CAROLVS . SACKVILLE . MAGISTER . E . L . NATTER , 1713 . His bust . Rev . AB . ORIGINS . Nudo figure ( the Genius of Secresy ?) left arm resting upon the column ; the cornocupia in the hand ; the plumb rule , the level , the square , aud other emblems of Masonry at his feet . "

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents

MASONIC CELESTIAL MYSTERIES .

"OMNIA VINCIT VERITAS , " VERSUS "EORTIOR QUI MELIOR . " TO TilE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIItr . OK . Dear Sir aud Brother , — "Omnia A'iucit Veritas , " when you can get it ; but truth lies at the bottom of a welland it is not one who cau bring it out

, every ; therefore , "fortior qui melior , " he is the better man who can do so . Eor this some time hack , Bro . Melville has been writing _ upon the wonderful subject of " Celestial Mysteries , " his object being , as he says , to enlighten his brethrenbut as the lettersetcivhich have

; , ., appeared lately in your columns show , his success would seem to have been but small ; in fact , some have taken the liberty of asserting that Bro . Melville ' s " light " has been but " darkness visible . " This has raised Bro . Melville ' s ire , who at page 391 , ivaxing fierce , throws his gauntlet on the ground , daring any in

one propria persona , to take it up . Mrgo—as a humble contributor to the Magazine , I lift it , and shall touch him up a hit . Bro . M . gives out that he is writing for the purpose of imparting instruction to his benighted brethren ; but I am sorry to say that , although I read all his articles , I as yet have received none—from him . In case this was owing to my reading them over too hastily , I , a few nights ago ,

sat clown and perused them all over again , and , for Bro . Melville ' s sake , I am very sorry to say that , having done so , the conclusion I came to wns that the style of Bro . M . ' s articles was far too mystical for common mortals to comprehend or receive any benefit from . I was also almost half-ashamed of own

my ignoi'aneo of , or incapacity to understand , such a sublime subject as " Masonic Celestial Mysteries , " aud asked a few of my acquaintances if they could make anything of it ; but , lo ! they were as bad as myself ; consequently , this set me a thinking , and , remembering that I could with pleasure and edification peruse

the works of some of the best scholars of the day , who have ( what Bro . M . seems to want ) , viz ., the art of making you understand Avhat they mean , thereby imparting to their readers the knowledge which they possess , my courage rose , and , to Bro . Melville ' s delight , no doubt , I do not intend to use here a nam de plume or attack him from " behind a wall , " but face to face .

Bro . Melville writes a great deal about the " points , " but he forgets a most important one—viz ., to write to the " point . " Another silly custom he has , is a pretended anxiety lest he should unwittingly disclose any sacred or important " point . " As a Ereemason , I beg to express my disgust at this pretension . It

is , I consider , a poor , transparent , and unmanly attempt at imposition . Bro . Melville says " the points must not be divulged . " Bosh ! Let Bro . Melville publish or tell all the mysterious points he knoAvs (?); only let him do it in a more concise and intelligible manner than he has yet done . If he cannot do so , the sooner he folloivs the example of Eve aud " elopes " the better .

The great use of language ( when used by anyone who desires to impart instruction ) is to speak so as that what you mean may be easily and at once understood by those to Avhom you are addressing yourself ; so also , if possible , ought it much more to be with Avriting ; and if said writing be intended to he

understood by thosej ^ o . " whom it is Avritten , the meaning of every sentence ought to them to be as clear as day ; "light" sparkling from every word and period ; the writer being a " suu , " and his ivriting a " diamond . " Bro . Melville , however , seems not to have got the length of understanding thishe being simply a

, " cloudy moon " shining upon a piece of coal , alias a " black diamond ; " Avere there sufficient heat in him to set the coal on fire , we might get up a temporary bit of a sparkle ; but , no , there is nothing to be seen or felt throughout the Avhole expanse but " darkness visible . "

Bro . M . asks that such portions of his writings as appear " inconsistent or incomprehensible " should be pointed out to him , aud he will , if in his power , " render them more lucid . " But the great difficulty I find is to discover any substantial portion that is comprehensible , at least to ordinary minds . There

is one wise remark , however , Avhich I shall extract , viz ., " The tropic of Capricornus ending ivhere the tropic of Cancer commences , and consequently Capricornus commencing Avhere Cancer endeth . '' This could only be equalled by another " Masonic Celestial Mystery which I shall give—unless , indeed , Bro . M . has discovered it before me—viz ., the day endeth Avhere the night commences , consequently the day commences where the night endeth .

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