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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , THE LODGE OF GLASGOW St . JOHN .

10 THE EDITOE OE TIIE HtEEJIASOtfS' KAGAZIJCE AND MASONIC JIIBIiOII "Enthusiasm ' s past redemption ! Gaen in a galloping consumption . Not a' the quacks , wi' a' their gumption , Will ever mend her ; Her feeble pulse gies strong presumption

Death soon will end her ! " —BUEUS . It is just nine years since " One Perplexed , " in referring to the rival claims to priority of the Mother Kilwinning and the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , questioned through the medium of THE FREEMASONS ' MAGAZINE " ( vol . 1 new seriesp . . 132 ) the

genuine-, , , ness of the now notorious Malcolm Charter . " One Perplexed '' asked the question in very plain , unvarnished Anglo-Saxon , whether the said Charter was to be considered a forgery ? In searching the back volumes of the MAGAZINE for information upon another subjectI came across the above query ; aud

, , being like Bro . Buchan a lover of " research , " I was induced to search the following numbers of tho MAGAZINE to ascertain if any of your correspondents had replied to the query ; the matter does not appear , however , to have been taken up or considered necessary to be again mooted until early in the present

year , when the appearance iu the MAGAZIHE of the report of , or , rather , critique upon the proceedings at the annual festival of the Glasgow St . John ' s Dodge—evidencing as it did a desire for more li ght to be thrown upon the subject , instead of tacitly allowing the claim to such extraordinary antiquity to go

forth unchallenged—served to usher in the " Battle of the Charters , " the indefatigable , yet somewhat plastic , Bro . Buchan , rushing forward with arduous impetuosity to the front , in defence of his lodge and her charter ; right fiercely has the contest been iought out , as displayed upon the arena of the pages of the MAGAZINE , the readers of which are familiar with all that has followed , the various phases the question has assumed , and how Bro .

Buchan—Sometimes by foes lie was o ' erpower'd , Sometimes by friends forsaken 0 Ancl when his hope was at the top , He still was worst mistaken 0 . " and how at last he accepted defeat at the hands of his heavily-armed and formidable antagonist R . Y . ; however , ' tis not my intention to enter here into the

arguments brought forward ou both sides , but I have been caused to reflect upon its being alike interesting and surprising that a question of so much importance to the Scottish Craft should have remained unnoticed and unanswered for so many years , ancl that tho solution should at last arise in the purely accidental

manner I have pointed out . Yours fraternally , S . Z .

The High Degrees And Bro. Manningham.

THE HIGH DEGREES AND BRO . MANNINGHAM .

TO THE EDITOE OU THE EKEEHASOirs' MAGAZINE AJfD MASOHIO MIEItOIi . Dear Sir and Brother , —The letter attributed to Bro . Manningham is of interest , if genuine ; but tho

The High Degrees And Bro. Manningham.

zeal and ingenuity of brethren have been so great that we never know when we get a true document in . Masonry . It is possible that Bro . Hertzveld has , in tho Yi'ijmetselelaars Jaarboekje ( "Freemasons ' Annual" ) given full particulars of the way in which this letter has been found , as also a correct copy of the letterfor the spelling appears to be altered in this

, version . For anyone wanting to attack Scotch Masonry the find is a lucky one , just at the period when a Lite Scotch G . M . was elected as G . M . of England , thus enabling Lord Aberdour to appeal both to his Scotch and his English experience that it naturally challenges inquiry .

It wanted no one in this clay to discover that ' 'Scotch ' ' Masonry in . 1757 was a French and not a Scotch invention- but this does not affect another question—the relative antiquity of some high degrees which are certainly named in the beginning of the last century .

A communication from Bro . Hertzveld in the Freemasons' Maga'ine is very desirable , so that an English document may be examined by English experts . Yours fraternally , E . Y .

Notable Masonic Works.

NOTABLE MASONIC WORKS .

10 THE EDITOR 01 ? THE " FltEEJIASOHS * MAGAZINE AUD 3 IAS 0 XIC JIIEROK . " Dear Sir and Brother , —Bro . Hughan is doing good service to Masonic inquiry and study by his valuable notices of "Notable Works . " "The ' Blue Blanket , " though known to Masonic collectors , is not now easy to be found—at any rate in Englandthough occasionally a copy is to be met withas the

, one I , have , purchased some -years back . It is , as Bro . Hughan points out , most interesting in respect of its illustration of the Guild system generally . Bro . Hughan alludes to the early copies of the Constitutions . I am iu possession of a very interesting copy of the Constitutions of 1723 which belonged to

, "John Higley , " ancl which was "printed by Wm . Hunter for John Senex at the Globe , and John Hooke at the Fleur de Luce , over against St . Dunstan ' s Church , in Fleet Street . " Like Bro . Hughan , I have not been able to find another copy of the Constitutions of 1722 aud am inclined to think that

, the copy possessed- by Bro . M . Spencer is unique . Other copies may exist , but I have not yet beau so fortunate as to meet with them . I have lately obtained a MS . relating to R . A . Masonry of date 13 . 14 . I meant to have alluded to it to-day , but , as 1 propose to call attention to Bro . Findel's kind

communication ancl Bro . Mamiingham ' s interesting letter next week , I wil ^ reserve what I have to say until then . Yours fraternally , A MASONIC STUDENT .

Masonic Charities.

MASONIC CHARITIES .

[ We have been requested to publish the followingletter , in reply to Bro . Hewitt ' s communication iu our last week ' s issue . ] Dear Sir and Brother , —I am glad you have called attention in the Magazine to an error ou my part iu the tabular statement published in that paper of the

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EARS OF WHEAT FROM A CORNUCOPIA. Article 1
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 2
BLACK AND WHITE FREEMASONS. Article 6
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THE TROGLODYTES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
THE HIGH DEGREES AND BRO. MANNINGHAM. Article 9
NOTABLE MASONIC WORKS. Article 9
MASONIC CHARITIES. Article 9
THE STUDY OF FREEMASONRY IN AMERICA. Article 10
ANTIQUITY OF THE THIRD DEGREE. Article 10
A LOST PROVINCE. Article 10
THE PROVINCE OF BERKS AND BUCKS. Article 11
VOTES FOR THE MASONIC CHARITIES. Article 11
FREEMASONRY IN STAFFORDSHIRE. Article 12
HEADLESS PROVINCES. Article 12
COMPLAINT OF THE STATE OF MASONRY IN THE PROVINCES. Article 12
MASONIC DUTIES. Article 13
THE PROVINCE OF BUCKS AND BERKS. Article 14
THE ROSE CROIX DEGREE. Article 14
MASONIC MEMS. Article 15
METROPOLITAN. Article 15
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
IRELAND. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 16
SCOTLAND. Article 16
COLONIAL. Article 18
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 20
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 20
Poetry. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING AUGUST 29, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , THE LODGE OF GLASGOW St . JOHN .

10 THE EDITOE OE TIIE HtEEJIASOtfS' KAGAZIJCE AND MASONIC JIIBIiOII "Enthusiasm ' s past redemption ! Gaen in a galloping consumption . Not a' the quacks , wi' a' their gumption , Will ever mend her ; Her feeble pulse gies strong presumption

Death soon will end her ! " —BUEUS . It is just nine years since " One Perplexed , " in referring to the rival claims to priority of the Mother Kilwinning and the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , questioned through the medium of THE FREEMASONS ' MAGAZINE " ( vol . 1 new seriesp . . 132 ) the

genuine-, , , ness of the now notorious Malcolm Charter . " One Perplexed '' asked the question in very plain , unvarnished Anglo-Saxon , whether the said Charter was to be considered a forgery ? In searching the back volumes of the MAGAZINE for information upon another subjectI came across the above query ; aud

, , being like Bro . Buchan a lover of " research , " I was induced to search the following numbers of tho MAGAZINE to ascertain if any of your correspondents had replied to the query ; the matter does not appear , however , to have been taken up or considered necessary to be again mooted until early in the present

year , when the appearance iu the MAGAZIHE of the report of , or , rather , critique upon the proceedings at the annual festival of the Glasgow St . John ' s Dodge—evidencing as it did a desire for more li ght to be thrown upon the subject , instead of tacitly allowing the claim to such extraordinary antiquity to go

forth unchallenged—served to usher in the " Battle of the Charters , " the indefatigable , yet somewhat plastic , Bro . Buchan , rushing forward with arduous impetuosity to the front , in defence of his lodge and her charter ; right fiercely has the contest been iought out , as displayed upon the arena of the pages of the MAGAZINE , the readers of which are familiar with all that has followed , the various phases the question has assumed , and how Bro .

Buchan—Sometimes by foes lie was o ' erpower'd , Sometimes by friends forsaken 0 Ancl when his hope was at the top , He still was worst mistaken 0 . " and how at last he accepted defeat at the hands of his heavily-armed and formidable antagonist R . Y . ; however , ' tis not my intention to enter here into the

arguments brought forward ou both sides , but I have been caused to reflect upon its being alike interesting and surprising that a question of so much importance to the Scottish Craft should have remained unnoticed and unanswered for so many years , ancl that tho solution should at last arise in the purely accidental

manner I have pointed out . Yours fraternally , S . Z .

The High Degrees And Bro. Manningham.

THE HIGH DEGREES AND BRO . MANNINGHAM .

TO THE EDITOE OU THE EKEEHASOirs' MAGAZINE AJfD MASOHIO MIEItOIi . Dear Sir and Brother , —The letter attributed to Bro . Manningham is of interest , if genuine ; but tho

The High Degrees And Bro. Manningham.

zeal and ingenuity of brethren have been so great that we never know when we get a true document in . Masonry . It is possible that Bro . Hertzveld has , in tho Yi'ijmetselelaars Jaarboekje ( "Freemasons ' Annual" ) given full particulars of the way in which this letter has been found , as also a correct copy of the letterfor the spelling appears to be altered in this

, version . For anyone wanting to attack Scotch Masonry the find is a lucky one , just at the period when a Lite Scotch G . M . was elected as G . M . of England , thus enabling Lord Aberdour to appeal both to his Scotch and his English experience that it naturally challenges inquiry .

It wanted no one in this clay to discover that ' 'Scotch ' ' Masonry in . 1757 was a French and not a Scotch invention- but this does not affect another question—the relative antiquity of some high degrees which are certainly named in the beginning of the last century .

A communication from Bro . Hertzveld in the Freemasons' Maga'ine is very desirable , so that an English document may be examined by English experts . Yours fraternally , E . Y .

Notable Masonic Works.

NOTABLE MASONIC WORKS .

10 THE EDITOR 01 ? THE " FltEEJIASOHS * MAGAZINE AUD 3 IAS 0 XIC JIIEROK . " Dear Sir and Brother , —Bro . Hughan is doing good service to Masonic inquiry and study by his valuable notices of "Notable Works . " "The ' Blue Blanket , " though known to Masonic collectors , is not now easy to be found—at any rate in Englandthough occasionally a copy is to be met withas the

, one I , have , purchased some -years back . It is , as Bro . Hughan points out , most interesting in respect of its illustration of the Guild system generally . Bro . Hughan alludes to the early copies of the Constitutions . I am iu possession of a very interesting copy of the Constitutions of 1723 which belonged to

, "John Higley , " ancl which was "printed by Wm . Hunter for John Senex at the Globe , and John Hooke at the Fleur de Luce , over against St . Dunstan ' s Church , in Fleet Street . " Like Bro . Hughan , I have not been able to find another copy of the Constitutions of 1722 aud am inclined to think that

, the copy possessed- by Bro . M . Spencer is unique . Other copies may exist , but I have not yet beau so fortunate as to meet with them . I have lately obtained a MS . relating to R . A . Masonry of date 13 . 14 . I meant to have alluded to it to-day , but , as 1 propose to call attention to Bro . Findel's kind

communication ancl Bro . Mamiingham ' s interesting letter next week , I wil ^ reserve what I have to say until then . Yours fraternally , A MASONIC STUDENT .

Masonic Charities.

MASONIC CHARITIES .

[ We have been requested to publish the followingletter , in reply to Bro . Hewitt ' s communication iu our last week ' s issue . ] Dear Sir and Brother , —I am glad you have called attention in the Magazine to an error ou my part iu the tabular statement published in that paper of the

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