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Noviciate Knight by actual attendance at certain meetings . This rule was followed by the High Council of England , under Waller Eodwell Wright ( vide p . 35 of the "Sketch . " ) The ceremonial of " professing " Knightsaud the reception of Grand Crosses were

, both conducted in secret , and the traditional account of the ori gin of the Order was delivered to the members upon these occasions . The constitution of the Order of Constantino will thus he found to differ

essentiall y from that of any similar Order of Knighthood ; inasmuch as the right to confer the " Eed Cross " was not restricted to the" Grand Master , but was also a prerogative of the Grand Crosses . I am quite aware that tlie Order was not originally confined to Freemasons ; and I believe that a reference to the context in page 27 of the " Sketch " will show

that the observations therein apply only to the TSnglish Branch , whose existence I have now traced back for neariy 110 years , approximating the period of the Abbe Giuistiniani ' s decease in 1735 . I am also perfectly willing to admit that , as a Masonic institution , it is in much the same category as the Order of the Temple , the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre , or the Hospitallers of St . John of Jerusalem .

I will now allude only to one more point in " Lupus ' s " communication : — " Did the Committee , of which H . B . H . the Duke of Sussex was President , in 1 S 13 , decide upon using the regalia of the public foreign Orders , or has the appropriation been recent ? " To this I beg to reply that I have in my

possession a cross which was worn during the Duke ' s Grand Mastership , and with the exception of the position of certain letters , it is identical with the cross now worn in the Priestl y Order of Eusebius . Bro . C . Greenwood , Prov . G . Sec . for Surrey , also remembers his father wearing a Eed Cross jewel of similar design .

The " " regalia" is therefore not new , nor is the Order itself , as UOAV practised in England , quite the modern invention some persons would fain believe . It will probably surprise many to hear that , since 1862 , the propriety of re-establishing the Masonic Order has occupied the minds of influential Masons ,

and that inquiries were made in the Freemasons ' Magazine in the year named , as to the " degree called the Red Cross of Constantino . " See No . 179 , page 446 , and the editorial reply then given was , I am sorry to say , erroneous , viz . -. — " It is the same known in America as Knihts of the Eed Cross

g Several brethren in England say they can g ive it , but it is questionable . . . . " We know of no competent jurisdiction for whom you might receive it . " This answer was incorrect in the first place , as the Eed Cross Order conferred in America as a preliminary to Templar Knighthood is not a Christian

degree , but is commemorative of certain events in thc history of Darius , Kiug of Persia . Secondly , at the date of the repl y ( December 6 , 1 SG 2 ) several members of the English Order were living , from one of whom I received the ritual of our first grade ; and , thirdly , in accordance with the Constitutions of the Orderas

, now embodied in the Statutes ( see page 14 ) , so long as a single member ofthe Orderremaiued iu existences " competent jurisdiction " also existed for perpetuating the institution , provided he should deem it advisable .

The Freemasons' Magazine is replete with passages which prove that the Order has hardly ever been in abeyance in England—see a " Templar ' s Certificate , 1830 , " page 302 " , No . 221 , in which it is stated that a Templar , the owner of the certificate , was " subsequently admitted a Kniht of the Eed Cross aud of

g the Order of Malta , " and upon this certificate were placed the letters of the Christian Order ( not the Persian degree ) , which , with the Cross therein mentioned , appertain to the Order of Constantino and to no other . * I annex the Cross described . I have

also a Templar certificate of more recent date ( at present lent to a friend ) , iu which the Eed Cross degree is recorded as having been conferred upon the brother named therein . The " Priestly Order " was also given in the same Encampmentat Manchesterand doubtless by

, , brethren , who , rather than allow the Eed Cross degrees to become extinct , preferred working them under Templar warrants—the certificates to Avhich I allude being diplomas from private encampments . Indeed , a writer in the Magazine , , who , I sincerely trust , is alive and able to answer for himself , wrote

thus in No . 1 S 4 , 10 th January , 1 S 63 : — " Apparently the following legend ( viz ., that of the Order of the Thistle ) is only another version of the vision of Constantino , and as the Templars were a military Order of Speculative Masons , and connected with the Order of Constantinothe coincidence cannot be accidental & c . "

, , See also ' a communication from a distinguished Mason , Bro . D . Murray Lyon , on Scottish Templary , No . 195 , 28 th March , 1863 , in which he states that : " Under the charters granted by the Grand Priory of Scotland , subordinate priories are permitted to form themselves into Masonic encampments or chapters of

Knights of the Sed Gross of Constantino , & c . ' ' Time will not permit me to add much more at present , but I hope enough has been said to demonstrate that the re-organized Grand Council of Eugland , now held under Lord Kenlis , was not tire first to introduce the Masonic element into the ceremonies

of the Eed Cross Order . We have simply accepted them as a united series , and revised only those portions which might possibly conflict Avith other chivalric rituals .

In promoting the re-establishment of the Order , we have been actuated solely by the desire to place before those brethren whose tastes are in consonance with our own , a ceremonial of Masonic knighthood , -which is at least as ancient as any on record , Avhoae vows are simple , and whose teachings are sound . The result of the attempt is that the Order is now based upon a firm foundation , and we may safely confide its destinies to the impartial and intelligent verdict of our brethren in Freemasonry . —E . W . L .

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EARS OF WHEAT FROM A CORNUCOPIA. Article 1
MYSTICS AND MYSTICISM. Article 3
GRAND LODGE OF IOWA.—III. Article 4
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 4
CHAPTER XIII. Article 5
PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
THE PRINCE OF WALES AND FREEMASONRY. Article 11
ZETLAND COMMEMORATION FUND. Article 12
Untitled Article 13
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
LEICESTERSHIRE. Article 16
SCOTLAND. Article 18
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 19
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
CHESHIRE EDUCATIONAL MASONIC INSTITUTION. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING JANUARY 30TH, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Noviciate Knight by actual attendance at certain meetings . This rule was followed by the High Council of England , under Waller Eodwell Wright ( vide p . 35 of the "Sketch . " ) The ceremonial of " professing " Knightsaud the reception of Grand Crosses were

, both conducted in secret , and the traditional account of the ori gin of the Order was delivered to the members upon these occasions . The constitution of the Order of Constantino will thus he found to differ

essentiall y from that of any similar Order of Knighthood ; inasmuch as the right to confer the " Eed Cross " was not restricted to the" Grand Master , but was also a prerogative of the Grand Crosses . I am quite aware that tlie Order was not originally confined to Freemasons ; and I believe that a reference to the context in page 27 of the " Sketch " will show

that the observations therein apply only to the TSnglish Branch , whose existence I have now traced back for neariy 110 years , approximating the period of the Abbe Giuistiniani ' s decease in 1735 . I am also perfectly willing to admit that , as a Masonic institution , it is in much the same category as the Order of the Temple , the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre , or the Hospitallers of St . John of Jerusalem .

I will now allude only to one more point in " Lupus ' s " communication : — " Did the Committee , of which H . B . H . the Duke of Sussex was President , in 1 S 13 , decide upon using the regalia of the public foreign Orders , or has the appropriation been recent ? " To this I beg to reply that I have in my

possession a cross which was worn during the Duke ' s Grand Mastership , and with the exception of the position of certain letters , it is identical with the cross now worn in the Priestl y Order of Eusebius . Bro . C . Greenwood , Prov . G . Sec . for Surrey , also remembers his father wearing a Eed Cross jewel of similar design .

The " " regalia" is therefore not new , nor is the Order itself , as UOAV practised in England , quite the modern invention some persons would fain believe . It will probably surprise many to hear that , since 1862 , the propriety of re-establishing the Masonic Order has occupied the minds of influential Masons ,

and that inquiries were made in the Freemasons ' Magazine in the year named , as to the " degree called the Red Cross of Constantino . " See No . 179 , page 446 , and the editorial reply then given was , I am sorry to say , erroneous , viz . -. — " It is the same known in America as Knihts of the Eed Cross

g Several brethren in England say they can g ive it , but it is questionable . . . . " We know of no competent jurisdiction for whom you might receive it . " This answer was incorrect in the first place , as the Eed Cross Order conferred in America as a preliminary to Templar Knighthood is not a Christian

degree , but is commemorative of certain events in thc history of Darius , Kiug of Persia . Secondly , at the date of the repl y ( December 6 , 1 SG 2 ) several members of the English Order were living , from one of whom I received the ritual of our first grade ; and , thirdly , in accordance with the Constitutions of the Orderas

, now embodied in the Statutes ( see page 14 ) , so long as a single member ofthe Orderremaiued iu existences " competent jurisdiction " also existed for perpetuating the institution , provided he should deem it advisable .

The Freemasons' Magazine is replete with passages which prove that the Order has hardly ever been in abeyance in England—see a " Templar ' s Certificate , 1830 , " page 302 " , No . 221 , in which it is stated that a Templar , the owner of the certificate , was " subsequently admitted a Kniht of the Eed Cross aud of

g the Order of Malta , " and upon this certificate were placed the letters of the Christian Order ( not the Persian degree ) , which , with the Cross therein mentioned , appertain to the Order of Constantino and to no other . * I annex the Cross described . I have

also a Templar certificate of more recent date ( at present lent to a friend ) , iu which the Eed Cross degree is recorded as having been conferred upon the brother named therein . The " Priestly Order " was also given in the same Encampmentat Manchesterand doubtless by

, , brethren , who , rather than allow the Eed Cross degrees to become extinct , preferred working them under Templar warrants—the certificates to Avhich I allude being diplomas from private encampments . Indeed , a writer in the Magazine , , who , I sincerely trust , is alive and able to answer for himself , wrote

thus in No . 1 S 4 , 10 th January , 1 S 63 : — " Apparently the following legend ( viz ., that of the Order of the Thistle ) is only another version of the vision of Constantino , and as the Templars were a military Order of Speculative Masons , and connected with the Order of Constantinothe coincidence cannot be accidental & c . "

, , See also ' a communication from a distinguished Mason , Bro . D . Murray Lyon , on Scottish Templary , No . 195 , 28 th March , 1863 , in which he states that : " Under the charters granted by the Grand Priory of Scotland , subordinate priories are permitted to form themselves into Masonic encampments or chapters of

Knights of the Sed Gross of Constantino , & c . ' ' Time will not permit me to add much more at present , but I hope enough has been said to demonstrate that the re-organized Grand Council of Eugland , now held under Lord Kenlis , was not tire first to introduce the Masonic element into the ceremonies

of the Eed Cross Order . We have simply accepted them as a united series , and revised only those portions which might possibly conflict Avith other chivalric rituals .

In promoting the re-establishment of the Order , we have been actuated solely by the desire to place before those brethren whose tastes are in consonance with our own , a ceremonial of Masonic knighthood , -which is at least as ancient as any on record , Avhoae vows are simple , and whose teachings are sound . The result of the attempt is that the Order is now based upon a firm foundation , and we may safely confide its destinies to the impartial and intelligent verdict of our brethren in Freemasonry . —E . W . L .

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