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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

BltO . WOODFOED . Bro . Woodford is said to be not less courteous than he is known to he learned aud zealous . He possesses , I believe , transcripts of some Sloane manuscripts , and upon fitting application made , he will probably furnish the information which a correspondent in the neighbourhood of Liverpool desires . —CHARLES PUHTOTSt COOPEE .

ALPHABETS , NUMEEALS , AND DEVICES OE MIDDLE AGES . The hook respecting which a brother inquires was published hy Bohn in 1857 -. " Henry Shaw—Alphabets , numerals , and Devices of the Middle Ages . "—A PAST PEOYINCIAL GUAM . MASTEE .

EEEEMASONEY AND QUEEN ELIZABETH . If Freemasonry were unknown before the seventeenth century , how did Queen Elizabeth in 1566 send an armed force to break up the Grand Lodge and arrest its members ? How was it that in 1429 lodges were holden under the patronage of the Archbishop

of Canterbury , and the names of W . Ms ., Wardens , Fellow Crafts , and B . As . given ? The actual minutes of the lodges may be seen by consulting the MS . reg ister ofthe Prior of Canterbury for 1429 . —National JPreemason .

DANISH EEEEMASONEY EEOM ENGLAND . At page 49 of this Maqazine , Bro . Denton , of Leeds , who was replying in the _ Zerubabel and Frederick Lodge at Copenhagen for the Grand Lodge of England , observes : — "As they all would acknowledge , Freemasonry was transplanted from England to the

Continent during the last century—to some kingdoms earlier than to others . " That is perfectly correct , and hy so saying Bro . Denton is , whether consciously or unconsciously , a supporter of the 1717 theory , as I have heen upholding it . —W . P . BUCHAN .

G-EBMAN ELEMENT AMONG THE ENGLISH MASONS . A correspondent will find the ensuing passage iu Bro . Findel ' s History : — "The German element had already heen introduced among the English Masons when the Normans became masters of the country , aud tbe Danes and Saxons had usurped all crafts ancl

trades . This peculiarity became even still more marked when the Gothic ( Saxon ) style which , as we have shown , was originally the peculiar secret of the German stonemasons , began to be adopted in England . There is now scarcely a doubt that a large proportion of German workmen were employed in the

construction of the Gothic edifices of England , erected during the 14 th century , and it is even supposed that the principal architects were German masons . "—A PAST PEOVINCIAL GEAND MASTEE .

SOME THINGS WHICH AEE INCONSISTENT AVITH THE EREEMASONET AA HICH IS UNIVEEDAL ABSOLUTELY ( page 50 ) . Freemasonry is not a religion . More , it is not tho Christian reli gion , and never can he ; consequentl y those who are striving to Christianise Freemasonry

are only inserting the thin edge of the wedge for the overthrow of the latter . Further , they are going dead against the objects and intentions of the founders of our system of Speculative Freemasonry . The

Masonic Notes And Queries.

nine paragraphs under the above heading which appear at page 50 are worthy of serious consideration . As to the parties alluded to under Nos . 3 and 6 , they ought not to come into a Masonic lodge as ecclesiastical dignitaries , but as men and Masons . Hence , although eccJeciasties , they should not , on account

of their position in the outer world , be debarred from holding any office in the lodge to which they may be appointed . As to No . 7 , 1 should like it cut up into several parts before speaking upon it . The others I intend to think over . Perchance it may be presumptuous in me , who have never passed through the gates

of Oxford or Cambridge , to say so ; nevertheless , we must just strive to make the best use of what privileges we have had . It is somewhat curious , however , that while England possesses both an Oxford and a Cambridge , it has not , as yet , managed to produce a first-class , truthful , and honest history of Freemasonry . How is this ?—W . P . BUCHAN .

E . A . ' S PEATEE . Perhaps if you will publish the following few lines , some of your numerous readers will be able to inform me from whence they are taken , and perhaps be able to supply what is wanting . Entered Apprentice ' s Prayer .

" Hail ! Sacred Masonry , Divine I know , Guide tliou my frail footsteps liere below ; Aid me to support the rising passions of my hreast , That I may gain a sweet and holy rest . Hail ! Sublime Craft , nuclei- whose powerful sway ¦ The shapeless rock , a symmetry obey , Compass my hard heart , restrain its wild control ,

And square the longings and aspirings of my soul . Preserve me from this cold world's scorn , To know , not feel how others are undone . " Here my transcript abruptly ends . The above came into my hands some years ago through an accident in looking over the records of a lodge now extinct . I know not the writer ' s name , or from where he extracted it , neither have I the original hy me now . — ? J * H . B ., in the Masonic Iiecord of Western India .

St. Paul's Cathedral.

ST . PAUL'S CATHEDRAL .

CORRESPONDENCE . The Editor is not responsible for the opinions , expressed by Correspondents

TO TIIE EDITO-t OF THE EREE-irASOI-S' STAGAZINE AND MASONIC jUIEHOB . Dear Sir aud Brother , —A few days since a great meeting was held , as many of your realers know , to consider how to raise further funds for the decoration and completion of St . Paul ' s Cathedral . Many ofthe great public companies have given handsomel

toy wards the object , and no doubt our brethren will contribute in their private capacity , but I have failed as yet to discover that the Grand Lodge of England has done anything in the matter . We all- —at least such of us as do not take Bro . Buchan ' s ipse dixit anent the 1717 theory—profess to

believe that Sir Christopher Wren was our Grand Master , that the Freemasons had a good deal to do with the building of our noble metropolitan cathedral , that the Lodge of Autiquity in particular was actually concerned in that vast undertaking , and still possesses amongst the most cherished relics of its connection with operative Masonry the mallet used on the occa-

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MASONIC RED CROSS ORDER AND THE IMPERIAL CONSTANTNIAN ORDER OF SAINT GEORGE. Article 1
HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY IN WORCESTERSHIRE. Article 4
GRAND LODGE FUND OF BENEVOLENCE. Article 6
FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE.—(p. 481). Article 8
MUSIC AT LODGE MEETINGS. Article 9
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—N0. 29. Article 9
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 10
ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL. Article 10
PAST MASTERS. Article 11
THE LEGALITY OF OUR LODGES. Article 11
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 12
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
PAST MASTERS. Article 13
THE LEGALITY OF OUR LODGES. Article 13
THE SUMMER FETE AT THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 14
ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION. Article 15
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 15
Untitled Article 16
MASONIC MEMS. Article 16
LODGE OF BENEV OLENCE. Article 16
Craft Masonry. Article 16
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 20
IRELAND. Article 20
ROYAL ARCH. Article 20
MARK MASONRY. Article 20
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 21
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 21
Obituary. Article 22
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 30TH, JULY 1870. Article 22
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 22
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

BltO . WOODFOED . Bro . Woodford is said to be not less courteous than he is known to he learned aud zealous . He possesses , I believe , transcripts of some Sloane manuscripts , and upon fitting application made , he will probably furnish the information which a correspondent in the neighbourhood of Liverpool desires . —CHARLES PUHTOTSt COOPEE .

ALPHABETS , NUMEEALS , AND DEVICES OE MIDDLE AGES . The hook respecting which a brother inquires was published hy Bohn in 1857 -. " Henry Shaw—Alphabets , numerals , and Devices of the Middle Ages . "—A PAST PEOYINCIAL GUAM . MASTEE .

EEEEMASONEY AND QUEEN ELIZABETH . If Freemasonry were unknown before the seventeenth century , how did Queen Elizabeth in 1566 send an armed force to break up the Grand Lodge and arrest its members ? How was it that in 1429 lodges were holden under the patronage of the Archbishop

of Canterbury , and the names of W . Ms ., Wardens , Fellow Crafts , and B . As . given ? The actual minutes of the lodges may be seen by consulting the MS . reg ister ofthe Prior of Canterbury for 1429 . —National JPreemason .

DANISH EEEEMASONEY EEOM ENGLAND . At page 49 of this Maqazine , Bro . Denton , of Leeds , who was replying in the _ Zerubabel and Frederick Lodge at Copenhagen for the Grand Lodge of England , observes : — "As they all would acknowledge , Freemasonry was transplanted from England to the

Continent during the last century—to some kingdoms earlier than to others . " That is perfectly correct , and hy so saying Bro . Denton is , whether consciously or unconsciously , a supporter of the 1717 theory , as I have heen upholding it . —W . P . BUCHAN .

G-EBMAN ELEMENT AMONG THE ENGLISH MASONS . A correspondent will find the ensuing passage iu Bro . Findel ' s History : — "The German element had already heen introduced among the English Masons when the Normans became masters of the country , aud tbe Danes and Saxons had usurped all crafts ancl

trades . This peculiarity became even still more marked when the Gothic ( Saxon ) style which , as we have shown , was originally the peculiar secret of the German stonemasons , began to be adopted in England . There is now scarcely a doubt that a large proportion of German workmen were employed in the

construction of the Gothic edifices of England , erected during the 14 th century , and it is even supposed that the principal architects were German masons . "—A PAST PEOVINCIAL GEAND MASTEE .

SOME THINGS WHICH AEE INCONSISTENT AVITH THE EREEMASONET AA HICH IS UNIVEEDAL ABSOLUTELY ( page 50 ) . Freemasonry is not a religion . More , it is not tho Christian reli gion , and never can he ; consequentl y those who are striving to Christianise Freemasonry

are only inserting the thin edge of the wedge for the overthrow of the latter . Further , they are going dead against the objects and intentions of the founders of our system of Speculative Freemasonry . The

Masonic Notes And Queries.

nine paragraphs under the above heading which appear at page 50 are worthy of serious consideration . As to the parties alluded to under Nos . 3 and 6 , they ought not to come into a Masonic lodge as ecclesiastical dignitaries , but as men and Masons . Hence , although eccJeciasties , they should not , on account

of their position in the outer world , be debarred from holding any office in the lodge to which they may be appointed . As to No . 7 , 1 should like it cut up into several parts before speaking upon it . The others I intend to think over . Perchance it may be presumptuous in me , who have never passed through the gates

of Oxford or Cambridge , to say so ; nevertheless , we must just strive to make the best use of what privileges we have had . It is somewhat curious , however , that while England possesses both an Oxford and a Cambridge , it has not , as yet , managed to produce a first-class , truthful , and honest history of Freemasonry . How is this ?—W . P . BUCHAN .

E . A . ' S PEATEE . Perhaps if you will publish the following few lines , some of your numerous readers will be able to inform me from whence they are taken , and perhaps be able to supply what is wanting . Entered Apprentice ' s Prayer .

" Hail ! Sacred Masonry , Divine I know , Guide tliou my frail footsteps liere below ; Aid me to support the rising passions of my hreast , That I may gain a sweet and holy rest . Hail ! Sublime Craft , nuclei- whose powerful sway ¦ The shapeless rock , a symmetry obey , Compass my hard heart , restrain its wild control ,

And square the longings and aspirings of my soul . Preserve me from this cold world's scorn , To know , not feel how others are undone . " Here my transcript abruptly ends . The above came into my hands some years ago through an accident in looking over the records of a lodge now extinct . I know not the writer ' s name , or from where he extracted it , neither have I the original hy me now . — ? J * H . B ., in the Masonic Iiecord of Western India .

St. Paul's Cathedral.

ST . PAUL'S CATHEDRAL .

CORRESPONDENCE . The Editor is not responsible for the opinions , expressed by Correspondents

TO TIIE EDITO-t OF THE EREE-irASOI-S' STAGAZINE AND MASONIC jUIEHOB . Dear Sir aud Brother , —A few days since a great meeting was held , as many of your realers know , to consider how to raise further funds for the decoration and completion of St . Paul ' s Cathedral . Many ofthe great public companies have given handsomel

toy wards the object , and no doubt our brethren will contribute in their private capacity , but I have failed as yet to discover that the Grand Lodge of England has done anything in the matter . We all- —at least such of us as do not take Bro . Buchan ' s ipse dixit anent the 1717 theory—profess to

believe that Sir Christopher Wren was our Grand Master , that the Freemasons had a good deal to do with the building of our noble metropolitan cathedral , that the Lodge of Autiquity in particular was actually concerned in that vast undertaking , and still possesses amongst the most cherished relics of its connection with operative Masonry the mallet used on the occa-

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