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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

BEO . WOODEOED . Bro . "Woodford is said to be not less courteous than he is known to be learned and zealous . He possesses , I believe , transcripts of some Sloane manuscripts , aud upon fitting application made , he will probably furnish the information which a correspondent in the neighbourhood of Liverpool desires . —CHAELES PUETON COOPEK .

ALPHABETS , NUMEBALB , AND DEVICES OE MIDDLE AGES . The hook respecting which a brother inquires was published h y Bohn in 1 S 57 .- " Henry Shaw—Alphabets , numerals , and Devices of the Middle Ages . "—A PAST PEOAATNCIAL GEAND MASTEE .

EKEEMASONRY AND QUEEN ELIZABETH . If Freemasonry were unknown before the seventeenth century , how did Queen Elizabeth in 1506 send an armed force to break up the Grand Lodge and arrest its members ? How was it that in 1429 lodges were holden under the patronage of the Archbishop of Canterburyaud the names of "W . Ms ., Wardens

, , Fellow Crafts , aud E . As . giveu ? The actual minutes of the lodges may be seen hy consulting the MS . reg ister ofthe Prior of Canterbury for 1429 . —National ' Mreemason .

DANISH EEEEMASONEY EEOM ENGLAND . At page 49 of this Magazine , Bro . Denton , of Leeds , who was replying in the Zeruhabel and FrederickLodge at Copenhagen for the Grand Lodge of England , observes : — " As they all would acknowledge , Freemasonry was transplanted from England to the

Continent during the last century—to some kingdoms earlier than to others . " That is perfectly correct , and by so saying Bro . Denton is , whether consciously or unconsciously , a supporter of the 1717 theory , as I have been upholding it . — "W . P . BUCHAN .

GEEMAN ELEMENT AMONG THE ENGLISH MASONS . A correspondent will find the ensuing passage in Bro . Findel's History : — "The German element had already been introduced among the English Masons when the Normans became masters of the country , aud the Danes aud Saxons had usurped all crafts ancl trades . This peculiarity became even still more marked

when the Gothic ( Saxon ) style Avhich , as we have shown , was originally the peculiar secret of the German stonemasons , began to be adopted in England . There is now scarcely a doubt that a large proportion of German workmen were employed in the construction of the Gothic edifices of England , erected during

the 14 th century , and it is even supposed that the principal architects were German masons . " —A PAST PEOVINCIAL GEAND MASTEE . SOME THINGS AVHICH AEE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EEEEMASONEY AA HICH IS UNFVEESAL ABSOLUTELY ( page 50 ) .

Freemasonry is not a religion . More , it is not the Christian reli gion , and never can be ; consequently those who are striving to Christianise Freemasonry are only inserting the thin edge of the wedge for the overthrow of the latter . Further , they are going dead against the objects and intentions of the founders of our system of Speculative Freemasonry . The

Masonic Notes And Queries.

nine paragraphs under the above heading which appear at page 50 are worthy of serious consideration . As to the parties alluded to under Nos . 3 aud 6 , they ought not to come into a Masonic lodge as ecclesiastical dignitaries , but as men aud Masons . Hence , although eecleciasticsthey should noton account

, , of their position in the outer world , be debarred from holding any office in the lodge to which they may be appointed . As to No . 7 , 1 should like it cut up into several parts before speaking upon it . The others I intend to think over . Perchance it may be presumptuous in me , who have never passed through the gates

of Oxford or Cambridge , to say so ; nevertheless , we must just strive to make the best use of what privileges we have had . It is somewhat curious , however , that while England possesses both an Oxford and a Cambridge , it has not , as yet , managed to produce a first-class , truthful , and honest history of Freemasonry . How is this ?—W . P . BUCHAN .

E . A . ' S PEAYEE . Perhaps if you will publish the following few lines , some of your numerous readers will be able to inform me from whence they are taken , and perhaps be able to supply what is wanting .

Entered Apprentice ' s Prayer . " Hail ! Sacred Masonry , Divine I know , Guide thou my frail footsteps here below ; Aid me to support the rising passions of my breast , That I may gain a sweet and holy

rest-Hail ! Sublime Craft , under whose powerful sway - The shapeless rock , a symmetry obey , Compass my hard heart , restrain its wild control , And square the longings anil aspirings of my soul . Preserve me from this cold world ' s scorn , To know , not feel how others are undone . " Here my transcript abruptly ends . The above came

into my hands some years ago through an accident in looking over the records of a lodge now extinct . I know not the writer ' s name , or from where he extracted it , neither have I the original by me now . — ? J 4 H . B ., in the Masonic Hecord of Western India .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents ST . PAUL'S CATHEDEAL .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE -FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASO-SIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —A few days since a great meeting was held , as many of your readers know , to consider how to raise further funds for the decoration and completion of St . Paul ' s Cathedral . Many ofthe great public companies haA r e given handsomely

towards the object , and no doubt our brethren will contribute in their private capacity , but I have failed as yet to discover that the Grand Lodge of England has done anything iu the matter . "We all—at least such of us as do not take Bro . Buchan ' s ipse dixit anent the 1717 theory—profess to

believe that Sir Christopher "Wren was our Grand Master , that the Freemasons had a good deal to do with the building of our noble metropolitan cathedral , that the Lodge of Antiquity in particular was actually concerned in that vast undertaking , and still possesses amongst the most cherished relics of its connection Avith operative Masonry the mallet used on the occa-

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MASONIC RED CROSS ORDER AND THE IMPERIAL CONSTANTNIAN ORDER OF SAINT GEORGE. Article 1
HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY IN WORCESTERSHIRE. Article 4
GRAND LODGE FUND OF BENEVOLENCE. Article 6
FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE.—(p. 481). Article 8
MUSIC AT LODGE MEETINGS. Article 9
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—N0. 29. Article 9
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 10
ST. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL. Article 10
PAST MASTERS. Article 11
THE LEGALITY OF OUR LODGES. Article 11
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 12
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
PAST MASTERS. Article 13
THE LEGALITY OF OUR LODGES. Article 13
THE SUMMER FETE AT THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 14
ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION. Article 15
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 15
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MASONIC MEMS. Article 16
LODGE OF BENEV OLENCE. Article 16
Craft Masonry. Article 16
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 20
IRELAND. Article 20
ROYAL ARCH. Article 20
MARK MASONRY. Article 20
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 21
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 21
Obituary. Article 22
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 30TH, JULY 1870. Article 22
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 22
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

BEO . WOODEOED . Bro . "Woodford is said to be not less courteous than he is known to be learned and zealous . He possesses , I believe , transcripts of some Sloane manuscripts , aud upon fitting application made , he will probably furnish the information which a correspondent in the neighbourhood of Liverpool desires . —CHAELES PUETON COOPEK .

ALPHABETS , NUMEBALB , AND DEVICES OE MIDDLE AGES . The hook respecting which a brother inquires was published h y Bohn in 1 S 57 .- " Henry Shaw—Alphabets , numerals , and Devices of the Middle Ages . "—A PAST PEOAATNCIAL GEAND MASTEE .

EKEEMASONRY AND QUEEN ELIZABETH . If Freemasonry were unknown before the seventeenth century , how did Queen Elizabeth in 1506 send an armed force to break up the Grand Lodge and arrest its members ? How was it that in 1429 lodges were holden under the patronage of the Archbishop of Canterburyaud the names of "W . Ms ., Wardens

, , Fellow Crafts , aud E . As . giveu ? The actual minutes of the lodges may be seen hy consulting the MS . reg ister ofthe Prior of Canterbury for 1429 . —National ' Mreemason .

DANISH EEEEMASONEY EEOM ENGLAND . At page 49 of this Magazine , Bro . Denton , of Leeds , who was replying in the Zeruhabel and FrederickLodge at Copenhagen for the Grand Lodge of England , observes : — " As they all would acknowledge , Freemasonry was transplanted from England to the

Continent during the last century—to some kingdoms earlier than to others . " That is perfectly correct , and by so saying Bro . Denton is , whether consciously or unconsciously , a supporter of the 1717 theory , as I have been upholding it . — "W . P . BUCHAN .

GEEMAN ELEMENT AMONG THE ENGLISH MASONS . A correspondent will find the ensuing passage in Bro . Findel's History : — "The German element had already been introduced among the English Masons when the Normans became masters of the country , aud the Danes aud Saxons had usurped all crafts ancl trades . This peculiarity became even still more marked

when the Gothic ( Saxon ) style Avhich , as we have shown , was originally the peculiar secret of the German stonemasons , began to be adopted in England . There is now scarcely a doubt that a large proportion of German workmen were employed in the construction of the Gothic edifices of England , erected during

the 14 th century , and it is even supposed that the principal architects were German masons . " —A PAST PEOVINCIAL GEAND MASTEE . SOME THINGS AVHICH AEE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EEEEMASONEY AA HICH IS UNFVEESAL ABSOLUTELY ( page 50 ) .

Freemasonry is not a religion . More , it is not the Christian reli gion , and never can be ; consequently those who are striving to Christianise Freemasonry are only inserting the thin edge of the wedge for the overthrow of the latter . Further , they are going dead against the objects and intentions of the founders of our system of Speculative Freemasonry . The

Masonic Notes And Queries.

nine paragraphs under the above heading which appear at page 50 are worthy of serious consideration . As to the parties alluded to under Nos . 3 aud 6 , they ought not to come into a Masonic lodge as ecclesiastical dignitaries , but as men aud Masons . Hence , although eecleciasticsthey should noton account

, , of their position in the outer world , be debarred from holding any office in the lodge to which they may be appointed . As to No . 7 , 1 should like it cut up into several parts before speaking upon it . The others I intend to think over . Perchance it may be presumptuous in me , who have never passed through the gates

of Oxford or Cambridge , to say so ; nevertheless , we must just strive to make the best use of what privileges we have had . It is somewhat curious , however , that while England possesses both an Oxford and a Cambridge , it has not , as yet , managed to produce a first-class , truthful , and honest history of Freemasonry . How is this ?—W . P . BUCHAN .

E . A . ' S PEAYEE . Perhaps if you will publish the following few lines , some of your numerous readers will be able to inform me from whence they are taken , and perhaps be able to supply what is wanting .

Entered Apprentice ' s Prayer . " Hail ! Sacred Masonry , Divine I know , Guide thou my frail footsteps here below ; Aid me to support the rising passions of my breast , That I may gain a sweet and holy

rest-Hail ! Sublime Craft , under whose powerful sway - The shapeless rock , a symmetry obey , Compass my hard heart , restrain its wild control , And square the longings anil aspirings of my soul . Preserve me from this cold world ' s scorn , To know , not feel how others are undone . " Here my transcript abruptly ends . The above came

into my hands some years ago through an accident in looking over the records of a lodge now extinct . I know not the writer ' s name , or from where he extracted it , neither have I the original by me now . — ? J 4 H . B ., in the Masonic Hecord of Western India .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents ST . PAUL'S CATHEDEAL .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE -FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASO-SIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —A few days since a great meeting was held , as many of your readers know , to consider how to raise further funds for the decoration and completion of St . Paul ' s Cathedral . Many ofthe great public companies haA r e given handsomely

towards the object , and no doubt our brethren will contribute in their private capacity , but I have failed as yet to discover that the Grand Lodge of England has done anything iu the matter . "We all—at least such of us as do not take Bro . Buchan ' s ipse dixit anent the 1717 theory—profess to

believe that Sir Christopher "Wren was our Grand Master , that the Freemasons had a good deal to do with the building of our noble metropolitan cathedral , that the Lodge of Antiquity in particular was actually concerned in that vast undertaking , and still possesses amongst the most cherished relics of its connection Avith operative Masonry the mallet used on the occa-

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