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The Supreme Grand Council 0f France And Marshal Magnan.

"When the decree appeared , and they submitted at the same time , but did not render themselves up to the Grand Orient , as the latter ordered , in the Temple of that body , hut closed their own lodges , they felt they would not suffer aloue , for when the Grand Master of France consults his lodges , he will be very much astonished to find himself disavowed

bniney teen-twentieths of the brotherhood , and , since he issued his manifesto , they have come in crowds to the lodges under the Supreme Graud Council to protest against such a fratricidal measure . Bro . Yiennet also thinks it probable that the Grand Master of the Grand Orient has not consulted his council since ,

contrary to all Masonic usage , he has not made any mention of them in the preamble to his summons , and regards that a witness of the opposition which will be manifested against his circular . If , nevertheless , he persists in it , or public authority sanctions itit is necessary that they should be informed what

, must be the material result . Bro . Yiennet has before alluded to the rent which the rite pays to the hospitals of Paris for its accommodation , and asks if to five or six of the Supreme Grand Council the burthen of a lease , yet having six years to run , is to be left on their hands ?

Some of the lodges under the rite having constituted themselves into civil societies , Bro Yiennet asks several pertinent questions as to the financial prospects , both of those lodges and the Supreme Grand Council . He argues against a forced sale of their effects , showing that such an event would result in great disaster and realise nothing . Their treasurytoocollected amongst

, , themselves , is in danger , and it is questionable if the Grand Orient has not an eye ; to the main chance in appropriating it to their own uses . Bro . Yiennet considers that such events would he a

sad victory , recalling to mind the fable of the wolf and the lamb ; and it was not for the glory of the wolf that La Fontaine wrote . The Marshals of France considered the Masons of the Considate amongst the number of their brethren who had cooperated , for the most part , in the Masonic Convention of 1804 « . Such distinguished Marshals as

ELellerman , Serruier , Massena , Angereau , Soult , Mortier , Oudinot , Lefebvre , and McDonald , all knew their value , aud the dependance to be placed on them . The situation of the Supreme Grand Council is then reviewed , and the evils recapitulated and pointed out , the circular ending by being signed YiennetGrand

, Commander Grand Master of the Eite Eeossais for Prance . There is also the following memorandum attached : —The undersigned members of the Supreme Council regularly met on the 14 th of May , 1 S 62 , have determined that Bro . Yiennet ' s answer to his Excellency Marshal Magnan shall be read to the Central Grand

Lodge , and addressed to his Majesty the Emperor , to their Excellencies the Ministers of the Interior and of Justice , to all the Masonic Confederations , and to all the lodges of the Ancient and Accepted Kite Eeossais . This was signed by SS . GG . II . GG . MM . of the Supreme Council , Guiffrey ; Allegry ;

Marquis De Tanlay ; Count de Lanjuinais ; Baron < Ie Dellay D'Avaise ; Moitie de ' Coulommiers ; ttoelen ; Berryer ; Viscount de Lajonquiere ; Geneyny ^ Barthe ; Daron de Bulow ; Millet-Saint-Pierre ; Liutret ; and Le Batteux . ( To he continued . )

Masons Of England And Their Works.

MASONS OF ENGLAND AND THEIR WORKS .

( Continued from page 125 . ) During the sixteenth century , Eobert Jenyns , Eobert Yertue , and John Lobins are called " ye kings iii Mr . Masons , " about 1509 , when estimating for a tomb for Henry Yll . Eobert Yertue built , 1501 , a chamber in the Tower of London , and -was paid for a ' new platt '

at Greenwich . Master Estfield , 1501-4 , mason , in the reign of Henry VII , 1501 , was paid for " a king ' s tomb at Windsor , " £ 78 . 3 s . 2 d . ; the king's name is not given in the record , but it does state afterwards , by a payment of £ 10 that it was eventually removed to Westminster . Should the entries refer to a tomb

for Henry VI , it would tend much to prove that his body was removed to Westminster after all . * John Cole was " master mason of the broach , " of Louth Church , 1501-15 , and towards the completion , it is stated that " Lawrence , mason , was paid 6 s . 8 d . for riding to his master in the north country for to

sjieer him whether he would make an end of the broach , and he said he would deal no more with it , but he showed his counsel ; " and William Walker , and Lawrence mason , were paid 2 s . for " riding to Boston to speak with master mason to make an end of the broach ; " while William Lemyng and Christopher Scume are also recorded as master masons working there . John Hylmer and William Yertue , freemasons , 1507 , contracted to execute the groined vaidting to

to the choir of St . George's Chapel , Windsor , for £ 700 ; and afterwards , 1512 , assisted William Este to build Corpus Christi College , Oxford . John Eastawe , or Estow , engaged , 1525-38 , to " do all manner of masons's work , bricklaying , and all other things concerning the masonry and bricklaying , as well as the labourers concerning the same " in the

erection of Hengrave Hall . Christ Church College , Oxford , had the following officers at its erection , 1512-7 , a collection very rarely to be obtained , namely , M . Nicholas Townley , priest , master of the works ; William Frere , purveyor of the works ; M . David Grifhts , priest , overseer of the workmem ; M . Eowland

Messenger , comptroller of the works ; Mr . John Smith , auditor of the works ; with Thomas Cowper and Philip Lenthall , his clerks , who were paid 66 s . Sd . for their labour duriug the five years the college was being erected ; John Adams was the freemason ; and Thomas Watlington , the warden of the carpenters .

The trades are not mentioned of Thomas Sellers and Nicholas Craven , who contracted , 1533 , to rebuild the ' hylings' of Bm'nley Church , Lancashire , for sixty pounds and a reward , —hut it may be supposed they were masons . John Multon , Freemason , had granted to him in 1536 , by the prior and convent of Bath , the " office of master of all their works commonly called freemasonry , when it shoidd be vacant . " This is probably the same person noticed

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MASONRY IN THE SANDWICH ISLANDS. No. II. Article 1
THE SUPREME GRAND COUNCIL 0F FRANCE AND MARSHAL MAGNAN. Article 3
MASONS OF ENGLAND AND THEIR WORKS. Article 5
BRITISH ARCHITECTS. Article 9
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES . Article 10
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 12
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE , AND ART. Article 12
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 12
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH MASONRY IN SCOTLAND. Article 13
DOMATIC CHAPTER OF INSTRUCTION. Article 13
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
COLONIAL. Article 15
WEST INDIES. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 16
Poetry. Article 17
Obituary. Article 17
VISCOUNT DUNGANNON. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Supreme Grand Council 0f France And Marshal Magnan.

"When the decree appeared , and they submitted at the same time , but did not render themselves up to the Grand Orient , as the latter ordered , in the Temple of that body , hut closed their own lodges , they felt they would not suffer aloue , for when the Grand Master of France consults his lodges , he will be very much astonished to find himself disavowed

bniney teen-twentieths of the brotherhood , and , since he issued his manifesto , they have come in crowds to the lodges under the Supreme Graud Council to protest against such a fratricidal measure . Bro . Yiennet also thinks it probable that the Grand Master of the Grand Orient has not consulted his council since ,

contrary to all Masonic usage , he has not made any mention of them in the preamble to his summons , and regards that a witness of the opposition which will be manifested against his circular . If , nevertheless , he persists in it , or public authority sanctions itit is necessary that they should be informed what

, must be the material result . Bro . Yiennet has before alluded to the rent which the rite pays to the hospitals of Paris for its accommodation , and asks if to five or six of the Supreme Grand Council the burthen of a lease , yet having six years to run , is to be left on their hands ?

Some of the lodges under the rite having constituted themselves into civil societies , Bro Yiennet asks several pertinent questions as to the financial prospects , both of those lodges and the Supreme Grand Council . He argues against a forced sale of their effects , showing that such an event would result in great disaster and realise nothing . Their treasurytoocollected amongst

, , themselves , is in danger , and it is questionable if the Grand Orient has not an eye ; to the main chance in appropriating it to their own uses . Bro . Yiennet considers that such events would he a

sad victory , recalling to mind the fable of the wolf and the lamb ; and it was not for the glory of the wolf that La Fontaine wrote . The Marshals of France considered the Masons of the Considate amongst the number of their brethren who had cooperated , for the most part , in the Masonic Convention of 1804 « . Such distinguished Marshals as

ELellerman , Serruier , Massena , Angereau , Soult , Mortier , Oudinot , Lefebvre , and McDonald , all knew their value , aud the dependance to be placed on them . The situation of the Supreme Grand Council is then reviewed , and the evils recapitulated and pointed out , the circular ending by being signed YiennetGrand

, Commander Grand Master of the Eite Eeossais for Prance . There is also the following memorandum attached : —The undersigned members of the Supreme Council regularly met on the 14 th of May , 1 S 62 , have determined that Bro . Yiennet ' s answer to his Excellency Marshal Magnan shall be read to the Central Grand

Lodge , and addressed to his Majesty the Emperor , to their Excellencies the Ministers of the Interior and of Justice , to all the Masonic Confederations , and to all the lodges of the Ancient and Accepted Kite Eeossais . This was signed by SS . GG . II . GG . MM . of the Supreme Council , Guiffrey ; Allegry ;

Marquis De Tanlay ; Count de Lanjuinais ; Baron < Ie Dellay D'Avaise ; Moitie de ' Coulommiers ; ttoelen ; Berryer ; Viscount de Lajonquiere ; Geneyny ^ Barthe ; Daron de Bulow ; Millet-Saint-Pierre ; Liutret ; and Le Batteux . ( To he continued . )

Masons Of England And Their Works.

MASONS OF ENGLAND AND THEIR WORKS .

( Continued from page 125 . ) During the sixteenth century , Eobert Jenyns , Eobert Yertue , and John Lobins are called " ye kings iii Mr . Masons , " about 1509 , when estimating for a tomb for Henry Yll . Eobert Yertue built , 1501 , a chamber in the Tower of London , and -was paid for a ' new platt '

at Greenwich . Master Estfield , 1501-4 , mason , in the reign of Henry VII , 1501 , was paid for " a king ' s tomb at Windsor , " £ 78 . 3 s . 2 d . ; the king's name is not given in the record , but it does state afterwards , by a payment of £ 10 that it was eventually removed to Westminster . Should the entries refer to a tomb

for Henry VI , it would tend much to prove that his body was removed to Westminster after all . * John Cole was " master mason of the broach , " of Louth Church , 1501-15 , and towards the completion , it is stated that " Lawrence , mason , was paid 6 s . 8 d . for riding to his master in the north country for to

sjieer him whether he would make an end of the broach , and he said he would deal no more with it , but he showed his counsel ; " and William Walker , and Lawrence mason , were paid 2 s . for " riding to Boston to speak with master mason to make an end of the broach ; " while William Lemyng and Christopher Scume are also recorded as master masons working there . John Hylmer and William Yertue , freemasons , 1507 , contracted to execute the groined vaidting to

to the choir of St . George's Chapel , Windsor , for £ 700 ; and afterwards , 1512 , assisted William Este to build Corpus Christi College , Oxford . John Eastawe , or Estow , engaged , 1525-38 , to " do all manner of masons's work , bricklaying , and all other things concerning the masonry and bricklaying , as well as the labourers concerning the same " in the

erection of Hengrave Hall . Christ Church College , Oxford , had the following officers at its erection , 1512-7 , a collection very rarely to be obtained , namely , M . Nicholas Townley , priest , master of the works ; William Frere , purveyor of the works ; M . David Grifhts , priest , overseer of the workmem ; M . Eowland

Messenger , comptroller of the works ; Mr . John Smith , auditor of the works ; with Thomas Cowper and Philip Lenthall , his clerks , who were paid 66 s . Sd . for their labour duriug the five years the college was being erected ; John Adams was the freemason ; and Thomas Watlington , the warden of the carpenters .

The trades are not mentioned of Thomas Sellers and Nicholas Craven , who contracted , 1533 , to rebuild the ' hylings' of Bm'nley Church , Lancashire , for sixty pounds and a reward , —hut it may be supposed they were masons . John Multon , Freemason , had granted to him in 1536 , by the prior and convent of Bath , the " office of master of all their works commonly called freemasonry , when it shoidd be vacant . " This is probably the same person noticed

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