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admitted freeman , is restricted from working any stone or building higher than an ell , or hewing or laying hewn work , undar the penalty of a new upset . " " In 1 S 30 , liberty is granted to John Kirk to point and plaster with lime , but to meddle with no kind of work whatever pertaining to either mason , slater , or wright work . ''
The foregoing are all I am aware of having from the oldest minute-book extant . I was indebted to Bro . J . Cruickshank , Past D . Prov . G . M ., for a perusal of Bro . Hill ' s extracts last year—which I understand , and hope , the incorporation are going to publish . The following- are more modern : —
" At the Trades Hospital , in Glasgow , the thirtieth day of April , 1773 . The which day convened James Rankine , present Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector and a number of the other members of the Corporation of Masons in Glasgow , the whole being warned as was verified by the Officer . The said dayBobert PollockMasonin Glasgow ,
, , , Burges and Guild Brother of this Burgh , who produced bis Burges and Guildry ticket of this date , being a stranger Mason , and having wrought the essay enjoined him by the Deacon and Masters , and the same being declared by the Essay Masters to be sufficiently wroughtand that it was a sufficient proof
, of his abilities to serve the lieges as a Mason , the said Bobert Pollock was admitted a freeman of this Incorporation , and he deponed that he should be a faithful member of the Incorporation , would obey all the lawful acts made or to be made for the good of the Incorporation ; that he would not pack or peil
with unfreemen , or cover any unfreeman ' s goods or work under cover of his own , and that he would not be partner or sharer with any unfreeman in any work or part of the trade before such person be entered a freeman of the Incorporation , as he should answer to God . And the said Eobert Pollock paid in his entry
money , as a stranger , of 300 merks , Scots money , to David Nasmith , Collector to the Trade , and paid the Clerk and Officer's dues . " James Bankine . Eobert Pollock . "
At Glasgow , the 11 th September , 1789 : — " The which day convened Wm . Telfer , Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector of the corporation of Masons of Glasgow . The said day Archibald Kerr , "Weaver , Burgess and Guild Brother of this city , who produced his Burgess ticket , lawful son of Hugh Kerrfreemanis entered , admittedand
, , , received a member and freeman of this corporation , and that without having made an essay , upon this express condition , that he shall not have liberty , by himself or others , either directly or indirectly to practise or carry on any part or branch of the mason trade , until he shall first make a sufficient essay to be
approved of by the Deacon and Masters , which he hereby agrees to , and he lias paid his freedom fine and other dues , and gave his oath , de fideli , as use is . " William Telfer . _ Archibald Kerr . " I intend now to follow on with St . Mungo minutes in a future number , some of which are very interesting . —W . P . BUCHAN .
Beans' . Mao's . In your last issue ( page 203 ) reference is made to "Burns' Masonic Apron ; " the particulars so far
Masonic Notes And Queries.
are correct . It is now in the possession of Bro . Jas . Dees , Ploraville , Whitehaven . I will endeavour to borrow the apron , take a sketch of it , and forward you the same . —JAS . COOPEE . EGYPT . In No 2058 Shelf 3 General LibraryBritish
. , , , , Museum , is a work on Egypt , in 24 vols , letter-press and 11 vols , of engravings . Has Bro . Melville looked at this ?—A . O . HATE . K . H . S .
The following notice , which appears in the Illustrated London News of the 3 rd inst ., may be of interest to the K . H . S ., it also confirms my note at page 31 anent these relics : — "The Marquis of Bute was , on the 11 th ult ., invested , at Jerusalem , with the spurs and sword of
the celebrated Godfrey de Bouillon , making him a Kni ght of the Holy Sepulchre . The ceremony was performed in the Latin chapel of the Holy Sepulchre , called the Chapel of the Apparition , as it was there our Saviour appeared to Mary Magdalene . There was mass in the morningat which the Marquis attended ;
, and afterwards the Latin Patriarch , or Superior , performed the ceremonies of investment . The sword and spurs of the great Crusader are highly-valued relics , used only in the investment of knights—an honour limited to men of noble birth and of the Catholic faith . "
—DNALXO . MASONIC WOBKS . In the British Museum are a 150 rare works upon Preemasonry—many of them unknown to the Craftin English , Preneh and German . Some of them are worthv of republication and translation . —A . 0 . HATE .
P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.
P . M . 'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES .
CORRESPONDENCE .
The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents .
10 THB EDIIOE OF THE FKEEHA ^ 01 f 3 MAGAZINE AJTD MASONIC HIBBORDear Sir and Brother , —The tone of the letter of your correspondent , O . P ,, which appeared in the number of Saturday last , appears to me so far from Masonic , so sneering , so completely founded on assumptions which , in my humble view , are unjustifiable ,
that it hardly deserves notice . He gives an opinion very dogmatically , but how far it is that of a brother who by position and experience is entitled to any weight , he affords us no means of judging . I content myself , therefore , with remarking , that I have the written opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . ' s in different districts , many of them Masons of long experience , as
well as of others still higher in authority , which are more or less opposed to that of O . P . These decide in my favour , regarding the question either in a legal view , as a matter of custom , of propriety or of courtesy , and in the last-named aspect I have found only one or two who dissent . 1 am desirous to treat the point at issue in a gentlemanly and Masonic manner , to see it authoritatively settled , and , whatever may be the result , to
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Masonic Notes And Queries.
admitted freeman , is restricted from working any stone or building higher than an ell , or hewing or laying hewn work , undar the penalty of a new upset . " " In 1 S 30 , liberty is granted to John Kirk to point and plaster with lime , but to meddle with no kind of work whatever pertaining to either mason , slater , or wright work . ''
The foregoing are all I am aware of having from the oldest minute-book extant . I was indebted to Bro . J . Cruickshank , Past D . Prov . G . M ., for a perusal of Bro . Hill ' s extracts last year—which I understand , and hope , the incorporation are going to publish . The following- are more modern : —
" At the Trades Hospital , in Glasgow , the thirtieth day of April , 1773 . The which day convened James Rankine , present Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector and a number of the other members of the Corporation of Masons in Glasgow , the whole being warned as was verified by the Officer . The said dayBobert PollockMasonin Glasgow ,
, , , Burges and Guild Brother of this Burgh , who produced bis Burges and Guildry ticket of this date , being a stranger Mason , and having wrought the essay enjoined him by the Deacon and Masters , and the same being declared by the Essay Masters to be sufficiently wroughtand that it was a sufficient proof
, of his abilities to serve the lieges as a Mason , the said Bobert Pollock was admitted a freeman of this Incorporation , and he deponed that he should be a faithful member of the Incorporation , would obey all the lawful acts made or to be made for the good of the Incorporation ; that he would not pack or peil
with unfreemen , or cover any unfreeman ' s goods or work under cover of his own , and that he would not be partner or sharer with any unfreeman in any work or part of the trade before such person be entered a freeman of the Incorporation , as he should answer to God . And the said Eobert Pollock paid in his entry
money , as a stranger , of 300 merks , Scots money , to David Nasmith , Collector to the Trade , and paid the Clerk and Officer's dues . " James Bankine . Eobert Pollock . "
At Glasgow , the 11 th September , 1789 : — " The which day convened Wm . Telfer , Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector of the corporation of Masons of Glasgow . The said day Archibald Kerr , "Weaver , Burgess and Guild Brother of this city , who produced his Burgess ticket , lawful son of Hugh Kerrfreemanis entered , admittedand
, , , received a member and freeman of this corporation , and that without having made an essay , upon this express condition , that he shall not have liberty , by himself or others , either directly or indirectly to practise or carry on any part or branch of the mason trade , until he shall first make a sufficient essay to be
approved of by the Deacon and Masters , which he hereby agrees to , and he lias paid his freedom fine and other dues , and gave his oath , de fideli , as use is . " William Telfer . _ Archibald Kerr . " I intend now to follow on with St . Mungo minutes in a future number , some of which are very interesting . —W . P . BUCHAN .
Beans' . Mao's . In your last issue ( page 203 ) reference is made to "Burns' Masonic Apron ; " the particulars so far
Masonic Notes And Queries.
are correct . It is now in the possession of Bro . Jas . Dees , Ploraville , Whitehaven . I will endeavour to borrow the apron , take a sketch of it , and forward you the same . —JAS . COOPEE . EGYPT . In No 2058 Shelf 3 General LibraryBritish
. , , , , Museum , is a work on Egypt , in 24 vols , letter-press and 11 vols , of engravings . Has Bro . Melville looked at this ?—A . O . HATE . K . H . S .
The following notice , which appears in the Illustrated London News of the 3 rd inst ., may be of interest to the K . H . S ., it also confirms my note at page 31 anent these relics : — "The Marquis of Bute was , on the 11 th ult ., invested , at Jerusalem , with the spurs and sword of
the celebrated Godfrey de Bouillon , making him a Kni ght of the Holy Sepulchre . The ceremony was performed in the Latin chapel of the Holy Sepulchre , called the Chapel of the Apparition , as it was there our Saviour appeared to Mary Magdalene . There was mass in the morningat which the Marquis attended ;
, and afterwards the Latin Patriarch , or Superior , performed the ceremonies of investment . The sword and spurs of the great Crusader are highly-valued relics , used only in the investment of knights—an honour limited to men of noble birth and of the Catholic faith . "
—DNALXO . MASONIC WOBKS . In the British Museum are a 150 rare works upon Preemasonry—many of them unknown to the Craftin English , Preneh and German . Some of them are worthv of republication and translation . —A . 0 . HATE .
P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.
P . M . 'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES .
CORRESPONDENCE .
The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents .
10 THB EDIIOE OF THE FKEEHA ^ 01 f 3 MAGAZINE AJTD MASONIC HIBBORDear Sir and Brother , —The tone of the letter of your correspondent , O . P ,, which appeared in the number of Saturday last , appears to me so far from Masonic , so sneering , so completely founded on assumptions which , in my humble view , are unjustifiable ,
that it hardly deserves notice . He gives an opinion very dogmatically , but how far it is that of a brother who by position and experience is entitled to any weight , he affords us no means of judging . I content myself , therefore , with remarking , that I have the written opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . ' s in different districts , many of them Masons of long experience , as
well as of others still higher in authority , which are more or less opposed to that of O . P . These decide in my favour , regarding the question either in a legal view , as a matter of custom , of propriety or of courtesy , and in the last-named aspect I have found only one or two who dissent . 1 am desirous to treat the point at issue in a gentlemanly and Masonic manner , to see it authoritatively settled , and , whatever may be the result , to