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admitted freeman , is restricted from working any stone or building higher than an ell , or hewing or laying hewn work , undar the penalty of a new upset . " " In 1 S 30 , liberty is granted to John Kirk to point and plaster with lime , but to meddle with no kind of work whatever pertaining to either mason , slater , or wright work . ''

The foregoing are all I am aware of having from the oldest minute-book extant . I was indebted to Bro . J . Cruickshank , Past D . Prov . G . M ., for a perusal of Bro . Hill ' s extracts last year—which I understand , and hope , the incorporation are going to publish . The following- are more modern : —

" At the Trades Hospital , in Glasgow , the thirtieth day of April , 1773 . The which day convened James Rankine , present Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector and a number of the other members of the Corporation of Masons in Glasgow , the whole being warned as was verified by the Officer . The said dayBobert PollockMasonin Glasgow ,

, , , Burges and Guild Brother of this Burgh , who produced bis Burges and Guildry ticket of this date , being a stranger Mason , and having wrought the essay enjoined him by the Deacon and Masters , and the same being declared by the Essay Masters to be sufficiently wroughtand that it was a sufficient proof

, of his abilities to serve the lieges as a Mason , the said Bobert Pollock was admitted a freeman of this Incorporation , and he deponed that he should be a faithful member of the Incorporation , would obey all the lawful acts made or to be made for the good of the Incorporation ; that he would not pack or peil

with unfreemen , or cover any unfreeman ' s goods or work under cover of his own , and that he would not be partner or sharer with any unfreeman in any work or part of the trade before such person be entered a freeman of the Incorporation , as he should answer to God . And the said Eobert Pollock paid in his entry

money , as a stranger , of 300 merks , Scots money , to David Nasmith , Collector to the Trade , and paid the Clerk and Officer's dues . " James Bankine . Eobert Pollock . "

At Glasgow , the 11 th September , 1789 : — " The which day convened Wm . Telfer , Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector of the corporation of Masons of Glasgow . The said day Archibald Kerr , "Weaver , Burgess and Guild Brother of this city , who produced his Burgess ticket , lawful son of Hugh Kerrfreemanis entered , admittedand

, , , received a member and freeman of this corporation , and that without having made an essay , upon this express condition , that he shall not have liberty , by himself or others , either directly or indirectly to practise or carry on any part or branch of the mason trade , until he shall first make a sufficient essay to be

approved of by the Deacon and Masters , which he hereby agrees to , and he lias paid his freedom fine and other dues , and gave his oath , de fideli , as use is . " William Telfer . _ Archibald Kerr . " I intend now to follow on with St . Mungo minutes in a future number , some of which are very interesting . —W . P . BUCHAN .

Beans' . Mao's . In your last issue ( page 203 ) reference is made to "Burns' Masonic Apron ; " the particulars so far

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are correct . It is now in the possession of Bro . Jas . Dees , Ploraville , Whitehaven . I will endeavour to borrow the apron , take a sketch of it , and forward you the same . —JAS . COOPEE . EGYPT . In No 2058 Shelf 3 General LibraryBritish

. , , , , Museum , is a work on Egypt , in 24 vols , letter-press and 11 vols , of engravings . Has Bro . Melville looked at this ?—A . O . HATE . K . H . S .

The following notice , which appears in the Illustrated London News of the 3 rd inst ., may be of interest to the K . H . S ., it also confirms my note at page 31 anent these relics : — "The Marquis of Bute was , on the 11 th ult ., invested , at Jerusalem , with the spurs and sword of

the celebrated Godfrey de Bouillon , making him a Kni ght of the Holy Sepulchre . The ceremony was performed in the Latin chapel of the Holy Sepulchre , called the Chapel of the Apparition , as it was there our Saviour appeared to Mary Magdalene . There was mass in the morningat which the Marquis attended ;

, and afterwards the Latin Patriarch , or Superior , performed the ceremonies of investment . The sword and spurs of the great Crusader are highly-valued relics , used only in the investment of knights—an honour limited to men of noble birth and of the Catholic faith . "

—DNALXO . MASONIC WOBKS . In the British Museum are a 150 rare works upon Preemasonry—many of them unknown to the Craftin English , Preneh and German . Some of them are worthv of republication and translation . —A . 0 . HATE .

P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.

P . M . 'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES .

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents .

10 THB EDIIOE OF THE FKEEHA ^ 01 f 3 MAGAZINE AJTD MASONIC HIBBORDear Sir and Brother , —The tone of the letter of your correspondent , O . P ,, which appeared in the number of Saturday last , appears to me so far from Masonic , so sneering , so completely founded on assumptions which , in my humble view , are unjustifiable ,

that it hardly deserves notice . He gives an opinion very dogmatically , but how far it is that of a brother who by position and experience is entitled to any weight , he affords us no means of judging . I content myself , therefore , with remarking , that I have the written opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . ' s in different districts , many of them Masons of long experience , as

well as of others still higher in authority , which are more or less opposed to that of O . P . These decide in my favour , regarding the question either in a legal view , as a matter of custom , of propriety or of courtesy , and in the last-named aspect I have found only one or two who dissent . 1 am desirous to treat the point at issue in a gentlemanly and Masonic manner , to see it authoritatively settled , and , whatever may be the result , to

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"SANS CEREMONIE." Article 12
MASONIC PERSECUTION. Article 12
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PROVINCIAL. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 18
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
THE PRINCE OF THE BLOOD AND THE PRINCE OF THE CHURCH. Article 19
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 1st MAY, 18 69. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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admitted freeman , is restricted from working any stone or building higher than an ell , or hewing or laying hewn work , undar the penalty of a new upset . " " In 1 S 30 , liberty is granted to John Kirk to point and plaster with lime , but to meddle with no kind of work whatever pertaining to either mason , slater , or wright work . ''

The foregoing are all I am aware of having from the oldest minute-book extant . I was indebted to Bro . J . Cruickshank , Past D . Prov . G . M ., for a perusal of Bro . Hill ' s extracts last year—which I understand , and hope , the incorporation are going to publish . The following- are more modern : —

" At the Trades Hospital , in Glasgow , the thirtieth day of April , 1773 . The which day convened James Rankine , present Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector and a number of the other members of the Corporation of Masons in Glasgow , the whole being warned as was verified by the Officer . The said dayBobert PollockMasonin Glasgow ,

, , , Burges and Guild Brother of this Burgh , who produced bis Burges and Guildry ticket of this date , being a stranger Mason , and having wrought the essay enjoined him by the Deacon and Masters , and the same being declared by the Essay Masters to be sufficiently wroughtand that it was a sufficient proof

, of his abilities to serve the lieges as a Mason , the said Bobert Pollock was admitted a freeman of this Incorporation , and he deponed that he should be a faithful member of the Incorporation , would obey all the lawful acts made or to be made for the good of the Incorporation ; that he would not pack or peil

with unfreemen , or cover any unfreeman ' s goods or work under cover of his own , and that he would not be partner or sharer with any unfreeman in any work or part of the trade before such person be entered a freeman of the Incorporation , as he should answer to God . And the said Eobert Pollock paid in his entry

money , as a stranger , of 300 merks , Scots money , to David Nasmith , Collector to the Trade , and paid the Clerk and Officer's dues . " James Bankine . Eobert Pollock . "

At Glasgow , the 11 th September , 1789 : — " The which day convened Wm . Telfer , Deacon , with the most part of the masters and the collector of the corporation of Masons of Glasgow . The said day Archibald Kerr , "Weaver , Burgess and Guild Brother of this city , who produced his Burgess ticket , lawful son of Hugh Kerrfreemanis entered , admittedand

, , , received a member and freeman of this corporation , and that without having made an essay , upon this express condition , that he shall not have liberty , by himself or others , either directly or indirectly to practise or carry on any part or branch of the mason trade , until he shall first make a sufficient essay to be

approved of by the Deacon and Masters , which he hereby agrees to , and he lias paid his freedom fine and other dues , and gave his oath , de fideli , as use is . " William Telfer . _ Archibald Kerr . " I intend now to follow on with St . Mungo minutes in a future number , some of which are very interesting . —W . P . BUCHAN .

Beans' . Mao's . In your last issue ( page 203 ) reference is made to "Burns' Masonic Apron ; " the particulars so far

Masonic Notes And Queries.

are correct . It is now in the possession of Bro . Jas . Dees , Ploraville , Whitehaven . I will endeavour to borrow the apron , take a sketch of it , and forward you the same . —JAS . COOPEE . EGYPT . In No 2058 Shelf 3 General LibraryBritish

. , , , , Museum , is a work on Egypt , in 24 vols , letter-press and 11 vols , of engravings . Has Bro . Melville looked at this ?—A . O . HATE . K . H . S .

The following notice , which appears in the Illustrated London News of the 3 rd inst ., may be of interest to the K . H . S ., it also confirms my note at page 31 anent these relics : — "The Marquis of Bute was , on the 11 th ult ., invested , at Jerusalem , with the spurs and sword of

the celebrated Godfrey de Bouillon , making him a Kni ght of the Holy Sepulchre . The ceremony was performed in the Latin chapel of the Holy Sepulchre , called the Chapel of the Apparition , as it was there our Saviour appeared to Mary Magdalene . There was mass in the morningat which the Marquis attended ;

, and afterwards the Latin Patriarch , or Superior , performed the ceremonies of investment . The sword and spurs of the great Crusader are highly-valued relics , used only in the investment of knights—an honour limited to men of noble birth and of the Catholic faith . "

—DNALXO . MASONIC WOBKS . In the British Museum are a 150 rare works upon Preemasonry—many of them unknown to the Craftin English , Preneh and German . Some of them are worthv of republication and translation . —A . 0 . HATE .

P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.

P . M . 'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES .

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents .

10 THB EDIIOE OF THE FKEEHA ^ 01 f 3 MAGAZINE AJTD MASONIC HIBBORDear Sir and Brother , —The tone of the letter of your correspondent , O . P ,, which appeared in the number of Saturday last , appears to me so far from Masonic , so sneering , so completely founded on assumptions which , in my humble view , are unjustifiable ,

that it hardly deserves notice . He gives an opinion very dogmatically , but how far it is that of a brother who by position and experience is entitled to any weight , he affords us no means of judging . I content myself , therefore , with remarking , that I have the written opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . ' s in different districts , many of them Masons of long experience , as

well as of others still higher in authority , which are more or less opposed to that of O . P . These decide in my favour , regarding the question either in a legal view , as a matter of custom , of propriety or of courtesy , and in the last-named aspect I have found only one or two who dissent . 1 am desirous to treat the point at issue in a gentlemanly and Masonic manner , to see it authoritatively settled , and , whatever may be the result , to

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