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Masonic Notes And Queries.

religion" in juxtaposition are , in my opinion , sufficient to suggest to the brother who reads and thinks " why Freemasonry is called universal . " In my communication " Universality , " page 49 of the present volume , line 9 , for " vol . xvi . " read "vol . xiv . " — C . P . COOPEE .

BAVARIA . What has become of the Province of Bavaria , which existed some thirty or forty years ago , and of which the Prince of Tours and Taxis was P . G . M . ? The only lodge which appeared to have belonged to it was Aufgebenden Morgenrothe ( No . 444 ) , meeting at Erankfort-on-the-Maine , and warranted in 1 S 17 . This is now No . 351 . —F .

COLUMBIA . This is another province which appears to have collapsed , and of which Col . James Hamilton was P . G . M . There was one lodge at Angostura , Logia dela Concordia ( No . 524 ) , warranted in 1824 . This is now extinct . —F .

DENMARK , NORW'AY , & C . The Prince Charles , Landgrave of Hesse Cassel , was formerly P . G . M . of Denmark , Norway , & c , but does not appear to have had any lodges . —F . MARYLAND . Henry Harford is recorded as P . G . M . of

Maryland , but he had no lodges . —F . PEESIA . Sir Gore Ouseley is recorded as P . G . M . of Persia , but he had no lodges . —F . ST . HELENA . David KayM . D . is recorded as P . G . M . of St .

, , Helena , but he had no lodges . —F . SUMATEA . H . F . Lewis is recorded as P . G . M . of Sumatra . The only lodge left of a once-flourishing province was the Eising Sun ( No . 242 ) , founded in 1772 , and now extinct . —F .

SWITZEELAND . P . L . de Tavel was P . G . M . of Switzerland . There was a lodge at Berne , No . 450 , now extinct . —F . A QUESTION . In the case of a person presenting himself at the door of a lodge requesting admittance , is it right or

prudent to admit him if he cannot produce his Grand Lodge certificate , or be vouched for by a Mason , however well he may be able to work his way through the three degrees ?—C . T . —[ Under the circumstances mentioned in the foot note added to the above query , you acted quite right in declining to receive the

applicant for admission . It is better to err on the side of caution than , by any indiscreet or careless act , to compromise others . —ED . P . M . ]

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

-oie JSditor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , GEAND LODGE OF NOVA SCOTIA .

10 inn EDITOR OF THE EREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD UASOKIC MISKOK . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , — I see in the Freemasons ' Magazine an account of the Grand Lodge of Nova Scotia . The meaning of this is that we shall have another province wrenched from us , as Canada has been , and as the Australias will be . Nothing can be more certain that , under our present system

Correspondence.

or want of system , the future M . W . G . M . of England will rule over no colonial provinces , and he will not want any Colonial Board . If our Colonial Board , instead of making a report simply of colonial complaints , were to give us such a report on our colonial provinces as the Grand Lodge

of Canada receives on its affairs , we should know something more about them , and not witness province after province lost from simple want of care . If we had had anything of a colonial policy , we should have eome to terms with the Grand Lodges of Scotland and Irelandancl avoided producing a

, state of affairs which inevitably leads to weakness of administration , ancl consequent disintegration . "Who have charge of our foreign relations—is it the Colonial Board or the Board of General Purposes ? Why is there not a Board appointed for our foreign

relations , consisting of men conversant with foreign Masonry and languages ? Yours fraternally , A READER .

WORSHIPFUL MASTER AND TYLER .

TO THE EDITOR OV THE rj-EE __ ASOXS' MAGAZIXE AXD 1 IASOXIC MIItHOE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I should feel obliged hy a reply to the following queries : —1 . The W . M . of a lodge , not being able to go through the ceremonies of initiation , & c , and there being no Past Master present able to do so , is it competent for a

junior officer or a brother not in office to officiate ? 2 . The " Book of Constitutions " says that the Tyler is to be chosen by the members of the lodge . Why is it that the Tyler is appointed by the W . M . with his other officers ? at least , such has been the case as far as I have seen . Yours fraternally , M . M .

[ 1 . If there is a P . M . of any other lodge present , it is usual for the senior officer of the lodge to invite him to take the chair and perform the work in the absence of the W . M . and a P . M . ; and this is a very proper practice . Naturally the question will be asked why the W . M . was elected if unfit to perform

the duties of office , and why he accepted office , seeing that the conditions upon which he undertakes to fill the chair are clear and explicit . Such irregularities inflict great damage upon the Order , and are alike discreditable to the brethren electing and the Master accepting . 2 . The Tyler is to be elected by the members of the lodge , and not by the W . M . — ED . P . M . ]

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THE STAFF OF THE "SCOUEGD" AT DHWEE . — In tbe "Dreadnought , " tbe room immediately above this , tho stuff of tho " Scourge , " tbe well-known weekly journal of " politics , literature , and society , " are dining witli the proprietors , two fat , well-to-do men , who like literature when it pays , and know nothing further about it . All the go-between business between them and their contributors is done bMr . Makeweighttbe

y , bald-beaded , pleasant man at the head of tbe table , who " keeps things going " so admirably . Xext to him is the Rev . Cyril Fleem , curate of St . Botolph the Martyr , in the City , who ekes one his clerical income by flaying rising novelists . Then Mr . Angostura , who looks after the bench aud the bar . corrects the decision of Lord Chief Justices , and has never yet been trusted battorneys with a brief . The stoutslouching man

y , , in the rusty clerical garb , is the great sporting authority ; and the jolly , grazier-looking young fellow looks after art and artists . All the biters of flies are present , and the dinner is a very jolly one to all , save to those who give it—the proprietors ofthe "Scourge , " who , despite of Mr . Makeweight ' s jockeyship , cannot be made to fit in with anyone . —The Broadway-

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MASONIC SEALS. Article 1
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MASONIC ORATION Article 3
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS, Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
Untitled Article 9
MASONIC MEMS. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
CANADA. Article 16
COLONIAL. Article 18
AUSTRALIA. Article 18
REVIEWS. Article 19
LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 1867. Article 19
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

religion" in juxtaposition are , in my opinion , sufficient to suggest to the brother who reads and thinks " why Freemasonry is called universal . " In my communication " Universality , " page 49 of the present volume , line 9 , for " vol . xvi . " read "vol . xiv . " — C . P . COOPEE .

BAVARIA . What has become of the Province of Bavaria , which existed some thirty or forty years ago , and of which the Prince of Tours and Taxis was P . G . M . ? The only lodge which appeared to have belonged to it was Aufgebenden Morgenrothe ( No . 444 ) , meeting at Erankfort-on-the-Maine , and warranted in 1 S 17 . This is now No . 351 . —F .

COLUMBIA . This is another province which appears to have collapsed , and of which Col . James Hamilton was P . G . M . There was one lodge at Angostura , Logia dela Concordia ( No . 524 ) , warranted in 1824 . This is now extinct . —F .

DENMARK , NORW'AY , & C . The Prince Charles , Landgrave of Hesse Cassel , was formerly P . G . M . of Denmark , Norway , & c , but does not appear to have had any lodges . —F . MARYLAND . Henry Harford is recorded as P . G . M . of

Maryland , but he had no lodges . —F . PEESIA . Sir Gore Ouseley is recorded as P . G . M . of Persia , but he had no lodges . —F . ST . HELENA . David KayM . D . is recorded as P . G . M . of St .

, , Helena , but he had no lodges . —F . SUMATEA . H . F . Lewis is recorded as P . G . M . of Sumatra . The only lodge left of a once-flourishing province was the Eising Sun ( No . 242 ) , founded in 1772 , and now extinct . —F .

SWITZEELAND . P . L . de Tavel was P . G . M . of Switzerland . There was a lodge at Berne , No . 450 , now extinct . —F . A QUESTION . In the case of a person presenting himself at the door of a lodge requesting admittance , is it right or

prudent to admit him if he cannot produce his Grand Lodge certificate , or be vouched for by a Mason , however well he may be able to work his way through the three degrees ?—C . T . —[ Under the circumstances mentioned in the foot note added to the above query , you acted quite right in declining to receive the

applicant for admission . It is better to err on the side of caution than , by any indiscreet or careless act , to compromise others . —ED . P . M . ]

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

-oie JSditor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , GEAND LODGE OF NOVA SCOTIA .

10 inn EDITOR OF THE EREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD UASOKIC MISKOK . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , — I see in the Freemasons ' Magazine an account of the Grand Lodge of Nova Scotia . The meaning of this is that we shall have another province wrenched from us , as Canada has been , and as the Australias will be . Nothing can be more certain that , under our present system

Correspondence.

or want of system , the future M . W . G . M . of England will rule over no colonial provinces , and he will not want any Colonial Board . If our Colonial Board , instead of making a report simply of colonial complaints , were to give us such a report on our colonial provinces as the Grand Lodge

of Canada receives on its affairs , we should know something more about them , and not witness province after province lost from simple want of care . If we had had anything of a colonial policy , we should have eome to terms with the Grand Lodges of Scotland and Irelandancl avoided producing a

, state of affairs which inevitably leads to weakness of administration , ancl consequent disintegration . "Who have charge of our foreign relations—is it the Colonial Board or the Board of General Purposes ? Why is there not a Board appointed for our foreign

relations , consisting of men conversant with foreign Masonry and languages ? Yours fraternally , A READER .

WORSHIPFUL MASTER AND TYLER .

TO THE EDITOR OV THE rj-EE __ ASOXS' MAGAZIXE AXD 1 IASOXIC MIItHOE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I should feel obliged hy a reply to the following queries : —1 . The W . M . of a lodge , not being able to go through the ceremonies of initiation , & c , and there being no Past Master present able to do so , is it competent for a

junior officer or a brother not in office to officiate ? 2 . The " Book of Constitutions " says that the Tyler is to be chosen by the members of the lodge . Why is it that the Tyler is appointed by the W . M . with his other officers ? at least , such has been the case as far as I have seen . Yours fraternally , M . M .

[ 1 . If there is a P . M . of any other lodge present , it is usual for the senior officer of the lodge to invite him to take the chair and perform the work in the absence of the W . M . and a P . M . ; and this is a very proper practice . Naturally the question will be asked why the W . M . was elected if unfit to perform

the duties of office , and why he accepted office , seeing that the conditions upon which he undertakes to fill the chair are clear and explicit . Such irregularities inflict great damage upon the Order , and are alike discreditable to the brethren electing and the Master accepting . 2 . The Tyler is to be elected by the members of the lodge , and not by the W . M . — ED . P . M . ]

Ar00902

THE STAFF OF THE "SCOUEGD" AT DHWEE . — In tbe "Dreadnought , " tbe room immediately above this , tho stuff of tho " Scourge , " tbe well-known weekly journal of " politics , literature , and society , " are dining witli the proprietors , two fat , well-to-do men , who like literature when it pays , and know nothing further about it . All the go-between business between them and their contributors is done bMr . Makeweighttbe

y , bald-beaded , pleasant man at the head of tbe table , who " keeps things going " so admirably . Xext to him is the Rev . Cyril Fleem , curate of St . Botolph the Martyr , in the City , who ekes one his clerical income by flaying rising novelists . Then Mr . Angostura , who looks after the bench aud the bar . corrects the decision of Lord Chief Justices , and has never yet been trusted battorneys with a brief . The stoutslouching man

y , , in the rusty clerical garb , is the great sporting authority ; and the jolly , grazier-looking young fellow looks after art and artists . All the biters of flies are present , and the dinner is a very jolly one to all , save to those who give it—the proprietors ofthe "Scourge , " who , despite of Mr . Makeweight ' s jockeyship , cannot be made to fit in with anyone . —The Broadway-

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