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Masonry Among The Indians.

MASONRY AMONG THE INDIANS .

Among the Oherokees , Choctaws , Chickasaws , Creeks , Seminoles , and other American Indian tribes there has existed from time immemorial a secret fraternity of sworn friends , having signs , tokens , and words known only to themselves and confined to the male population . The form of initiation is said to be

simple , but their obligations to each ' other are held to be of the most solemn and binding nature through life . If one of the fraternity is in danger or trouble , his claim for protection or aid of his brethren is not to be disregarded ; and if at any time flight from enemies becomes necessary , he is at liberty to mount

the horse of a brother and flee from his persecutors . Indian Freemasons say that there is enough in the ceremonies and obligations of this fraternity to justify the conclusion that it had a genuine Masonic origin , though at what period it is impossible to determine . An instance is related bJudge Field of the

Cheroy kee nation , wherein a party of United States Commissioners sent to treat with the Seminoles in ' Florida early in the present century when surrounded by enraged savages and about to be put to death , were saved by a half-breed attached to the commission , who gave the mystic sign of the fraternity ,

which in a moment turned the fury of the savages into the warmest demonstrations of friendship . Another peculiar and striking feature of this Indian fraternity is found in the fact that in starting out upon the hunt or war-path , the Indians form in groups of throefiveancl sevenwho on such occasions

, , , adhere to one another , even to death . The mystic numbers—three , five , and seven—are traditional numbers , ancl are adhered to with the most scrupulous fidelity .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

MASONIC CHAETEES . Can Bro . Buehan give any proof that the Charter of William the Lion was to Masons , ancl not to certain clerics to he sent to collect funds for the building ? In fact , that this charter was neither more nor less than a royal advertisement for getting money

for the Glasgow monks . Upon carefully studying the charter , this is my opinion . The purpose for which the charter is granted is the collecting not expending funds , and nothing is said as to the builders . —A . O . HAYE . THE coKiNxniAN OEDEE ( page 300 ) .

Bro . Anthony Oneal Haye differs with me in every view I have expressed in regard to architecture . Well , suppose he does , that does not prove that I am wrong . The words "in every view , " I am afraid , show that there is something wrong with the spectacles—the glasses require a little rubbing . I

am afraid that Bro . Haye is not so well posted up as he might he in the history of the "origin " of the three Orders , or he would not differ with every view contained in the remarks at page 251 . However , I will look over carefully what has been said in the Magazine , pro and con , ancl give my verdict about Corinthian Order , or the "Three Grand Pillars , " next week if possible . —PICTUS .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

" SCOTCH . " We cannot agree with " W . P . B . " in concluding that to apply " Scotch " ancl " Scotchmen " to natives of Scotland is " both vulgar ancl incorrect . " The fact ; that in the English language there is the verb " scotch " does not affect the proper use of the

adjective " Scotch , " any more than the existence of another English word , " scot" ( a payment ) , can interfere with "Scot" being applied to indicate the nationality of a man born in Scotland . In support of his dictum , " W . P . B . " quotes . —

" Scots , wlia hae wi '( Wallace bled ; " but , as an impartial critic , he ought to have gone farther , and drawn from the same source proofs of the bard's incorrectness of expression ancl vulgarity in his use of the adjective " Scotch . " These will be found in " The Author ' s Earnest Cry and Prayer to the ScotcJi Representatives in the House of Commons ; " in his lines " On a Scotch Bard , gone to the West Indies ; " " On Scotch Drink : "—

" 0 thou , my Muse ! giud auld Scotch Drink : ' and in "Tarn o' Shanter ""AA e think na on the lang Scotch miles . " Nor did Burns hesitate to ring the changes on " Scotch " and " Scots . "

"I'll pledge my aitli in guid braid Scotch . " occurs in his "Earnest Cry ; " while in " The Brigs o' Ayr '' a line runs thus : —• "In plain braid Scots hold forth a plain braid story . " In his Dedication , addressed to fche members of the Caledonian Hunthe styles himself a Scottish Bare !;

, and the adjective here used occurs frequently throughout his writings . " Scot " and " Scotchman " are synonymous ; the former may be more in favour with writers than the latter , but both are , we think , proper to be used , ancl that in the sense objected to \ -r by " W . P . B . " —D . MUEBAY LYOIT .

, MASONIC OUAETJEES . If Bro . " W . P . Buehan will look more closely , he ancl his learned authority will see that my remarks had no reference to the question of Scotch Charters , being written in Anglo-Saxon or in Norman-French ; but to the question Avhether any alleged charters oi a guild could have any example or exemplar other

than the two sources of Anglo-Saxon formulas in the early period , or of Norman ( that is French or confcinental ) in a later period . This his learned chartologist will not , I think , deny ; ancl , this being so , we must seek for internal evidence as to the anthentieitv

ot any alleged guild charter fco contemporary English . French , and Flemish documents , with any aid wo can get from Italian . It is to be apprehended thai , ai . bjected to such a test , the alleged charters Aviii break down , even , if the Avritingand parchment be apparently authentic . In fact , the real question is practically so answered by Bro . Buehan and liis authority . —IL'Y .

SCOTCH . Surely Bro . Buehan must know that Scotsmen go about in kilts incessantly tapping mulls ami whisky casks . Every one must know bettor than tho inhabitants how to spell the popular name . There never Avas such a work as "The Scots Magazine . " They must be very ignorant in Glasgow- Is Glasgow hi England ? and is Scotland the capital of Edinburgh ? —A . 0 . HAYE .

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CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 1
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 2
CHAPTER SIXTH. Article 3
CHAPTER VII. Article 6
THE PRINCE OF WALES AND FREEMASONRY. Article 8
MASONRY AMONG THE INDIANS. Article 9
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
BRO. HUGHAN'S ANALYSIS. Article 11
SEIGMUND SAX. Article 11
MASONS' MARKS. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 17
Obituary. Article 17
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 18
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 18
ROYAL ALHAMBRA PALACE. Article 19
THE FIRST MASONIC FUNERAL IN CALIFORNIA. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
SONNET. Article 19
THE OAK TO THE IVY. Article 20
THE MITHER LODGE. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING OCTOBER 31ST, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonry Among The Indians.

MASONRY AMONG THE INDIANS .

Among the Oherokees , Choctaws , Chickasaws , Creeks , Seminoles , and other American Indian tribes there has existed from time immemorial a secret fraternity of sworn friends , having signs , tokens , and words known only to themselves and confined to the male population . The form of initiation is said to be

simple , but their obligations to each ' other are held to be of the most solemn and binding nature through life . If one of the fraternity is in danger or trouble , his claim for protection or aid of his brethren is not to be disregarded ; and if at any time flight from enemies becomes necessary , he is at liberty to mount

the horse of a brother and flee from his persecutors . Indian Freemasons say that there is enough in the ceremonies and obligations of this fraternity to justify the conclusion that it had a genuine Masonic origin , though at what period it is impossible to determine . An instance is related bJudge Field of the

Cheroy kee nation , wherein a party of United States Commissioners sent to treat with the Seminoles in ' Florida early in the present century when surrounded by enraged savages and about to be put to death , were saved by a half-breed attached to the commission , who gave the mystic sign of the fraternity ,

which in a moment turned the fury of the savages into the warmest demonstrations of friendship . Another peculiar and striking feature of this Indian fraternity is found in the fact that in starting out upon the hunt or war-path , the Indians form in groups of throefiveancl sevenwho on such occasions

, , , adhere to one another , even to death . The mystic numbers—three , five , and seven—are traditional numbers , ancl are adhered to with the most scrupulous fidelity .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

MASONIC CHAETEES . Can Bro . Buehan give any proof that the Charter of William the Lion was to Masons , ancl not to certain clerics to he sent to collect funds for the building ? In fact , that this charter was neither more nor less than a royal advertisement for getting money

for the Glasgow monks . Upon carefully studying the charter , this is my opinion . The purpose for which the charter is granted is the collecting not expending funds , and nothing is said as to the builders . —A . O . HAYE . THE coKiNxniAN OEDEE ( page 300 ) .

Bro . Anthony Oneal Haye differs with me in every view I have expressed in regard to architecture . Well , suppose he does , that does not prove that I am wrong . The words "in every view , " I am afraid , show that there is something wrong with the spectacles—the glasses require a little rubbing . I

am afraid that Bro . Haye is not so well posted up as he might he in the history of the "origin " of the three Orders , or he would not differ with every view contained in the remarks at page 251 . However , I will look over carefully what has been said in the Magazine , pro and con , ancl give my verdict about Corinthian Order , or the "Three Grand Pillars , " next week if possible . —PICTUS .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

" SCOTCH . " We cannot agree with " W . P . B . " in concluding that to apply " Scotch " ancl " Scotchmen " to natives of Scotland is " both vulgar ancl incorrect . " The fact ; that in the English language there is the verb " scotch " does not affect the proper use of the

adjective " Scotch , " any more than the existence of another English word , " scot" ( a payment ) , can interfere with "Scot" being applied to indicate the nationality of a man born in Scotland . In support of his dictum , " W . P . B . " quotes . —

" Scots , wlia hae wi '( Wallace bled ; " but , as an impartial critic , he ought to have gone farther , and drawn from the same source proofs of the bard's incorrectness of expression ancl vulgarity in his use of the adjective " Scotch . " These will be found in " The Author ' s Earnest Cry and Prayer to the ScotcJi Representatives in the House of Commons ; " in his lines " On a Scotch Bard , gone to the West Indies ; " " On Scotch Drink : "—

" 0 thou , my Muse ! giud auld Scotch Drink : ' and in "Tarn o' Shanter ""AA e think na on the lang Scotch miles . " Nor did Burns hesitate to ring the changes on " Scotch " and " Scots . "

"I'll pledge my aitli in guid braid Scotch . " occurs in his "Earnest Cry ; " while in " The Brigs o' Ayr '' a line runs thus : —• "In plain braid Scots hold forth a plain braid story . " In his Dedication , addressed to fche members of the Caledonian Hunthe styles himself a Scottish Bare !;

, and the adjective here used occurs frequently throughout his writings . " Scot " and " Scotchman " are synonymous ; the former may be more in favour with writers than the latter , but both are , we think , proper to be used , ancl that in the sense objected to \ -r by " W . P . B . " —D . MUEBAY LYOIT .

, MASONIC OUAETJEES . If Bro . " W . P . Buehan will look more closely , he ancl his learned authority will see that my remarks had no reference to the question of Scotch Charters , being written in Anglo-Saxon or in Norman-French ; but to the question Avhether any alleged charters oi a guild could have any example or exemplar other

than the two sources of Anglo-Saxon formulas in the early period , or of Norman ( that is French or confcinental ) in a later period . This his learned chartologist will not , I think , deny ; ancl , this being so , we must seek for internal evidence as to the anthentieitv

ot any alleged guild charter fco contemporary English . French , and Flemish documents , with any aid wo can get from Italian . It is to be apprehended thai , ai . bjected to such a test , the alleged charters Aviii break down , even , if the Avritingand parchment be apparently authentic . In fact , the real question is practically so answered by Bro . Buehan and liis authority . —IL'Y .

SCOTCH . Surely Bro . Buehan must know that Scotsmen go about in kilts incessantly tapping mulls ami whisky casks . Every one must know bettor than tho inhabitants how to spell the popular name . There never Avas such a work as "The Scots Magazine . " They must be very ignorant in Glasgow- Is Glasgow hi England ? and is Scotland the capital of Edinburgh ? —A . 0 . HAYE .

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