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Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

of our law , and all good men of the nation , both " Clergy , Laicks , or common people , and to all where -these presents shall come , greeting . Whereas our "" -trusty and well-beloved friends , the operative Masons in the city of Glasgow hath , by their petition humbly represented to us that the inhabitants of this city has

been imposed upon by a number of unskilled and in--. sufficient workmen , that has come to work at our Cathedral , and other parts of the city , and also has erected lodges contrary to the rules of Masonry : and being desirous of putting a stop to such unskilled and irregular brothers , most humbly pray us to grant

; ilieui our royal licence and protection for stopping such irregular disorders ; and we , being willing to ¦ g ive all due encouragement to so reasonable a petition are graciously pleased to condescend to their request , and we do by these presents ordain and grant to our petitioners to incorporate themselves together in one

Incorporation , and we strictly discharge any Mason ¦ within the foresaid city to work in it , until he serves liia time as an apprentice for the space of seven years ,

or be married to a freeman't daughter , and he or they shall be examined anent their skill and knowledge on the Mason craft by three of the ablest of the Mason trade , and if he or they be found of cunning or ¦ knowledge , to be received into the incorporation . Each -shall pay twenty pounds Scots to the common funds ,

¦ an d three pouuds to the Altar , and Clerk ' s and Officer ' s dues , whicli the foresaid incorporation shall always be allowed to be the judges of that and other laws made for behoof of the foresaid Incorporation . Item , that the free Incorporate Masons of Glasgow shall have a lodge for ever at the City of Glasgow

, none in my dominions shall erect a lodge until they make application to the St . John ' s Lodge , Glasgow , and they considering their petition , and examining ' ¦ •' ¦ their character and behaviour , grant them a charter ¦ conform to their regulations . Item , that all the _ members of said Incorporation shall have libertto

y quarry stones , lime , sand , and other materials from ¦ the ground of persons , for paying the damages of what they occupy , or damage for building of the foresaid Cathedral . But if the owners of the said lands and

. the foresaid workmen do not agree , each party is to - choose , an honest man , to value the expense of the foresaid damages . Item , and that any having power ¦ from me , maintain my peace firm and stable against : all other pretenders and usurpers who encroach on me or my subjects , to disturb our peace . Item , and

: ifcliat you and all my subjects in this obey the magistrates in all things relating to my peace and the good ef the city . Item , and that you instruct and teach . apprentices , and that none take or employ any man ' s apprentice , when their time of apprenticeshi p is not . completed , under the pain of ing twenty pounds

pay , the one-half to the Incorporation , one-fourth to the T-iodge , and one-fourth to Saint Thomas ' s Altar to . say mass for their souls . Item , and I strictly charge . and command that none take in hand to dioturb the free operative Masons from being incorporated freemenor to have a free lodgeto take away their good

, , name or possession , or harass or do any injury to my -Freemasons and petitioners under the peril of my highest displeasure , and we order that notice be taken that due obedience may be rendered to our pleasure herein declared . Given at our court at Fordie , the ¦ Oth day of October , 1057 years , before these

witnesses : Eari David my brother , Earl Duncan , Earl Gilbert of Monteith , Sir Robert of Velen , Adam of Stenhouse , and Andrew Hamilton , Bishop of Glasgow . "

Bro. Speir's On The Antiquity Of Scots Lodges.

BRO . SPEIR'S ON THE ANTIQUITY OF SCOTS LODGES .

TO THE EDITOK 01 ? TEE V- __ . E ____ . 0-f 5 MAGAZINE AND _ fASO _ fIC StEttKOn . Dear Sir and Brother , —Ihe extraordinary speech of the newly-appointed Grand Master of the Province of Glasgow merits some little attention . I refer to his speech in the Lodge 3- of Glasgow , reported in the Magazine o ? the 11 th inst . I advise him ( supplementing your advice as to the brief , before becoming the

champion of 3 ) , to look at the existing minute-books of the Canongate Kilwinning , when he will find minutes rather earlier than 1736 , aud reasons why the charter of 1677 is not at present in existence . Bro . Cruiekshank ' s interesting sketch of 3 " is a very interesting sketch ; bub that style of production is not generally received , without dispute , in a court of law . We have many disputed

documents in Masonry . When Bro . Speir's brings up , in Grand Lodge , tho claims of 3- to be the oldest lodge of Scotland , the Charter of Malcolm will appear fis another . When 3 ° was received into Grand Lodge in 1850 , it was with great difficulty she received her present number . Lodges , 300 odd , many oH them having paid thousands of pounds to the Masonic exchequer , allowed this lodge to take precedence of them , for no other reason than to get all the so-called old lodges of Scotland

enrolled under one banner . The Melrose Lodge is now the only one independent of General Lodge of Scotland . When she comes in , there will be a question of her number with Mary ' s Chapel , and it strikes me , under the then discussion the numbers of the old lodges , judging from the proofs which I hold in my hand , will be—Mother Kilwinning , 1 ; Canongate Kilwinning , 2 ;

Melrose St . John , 3 ; Mary's Chapel , 4 ; and the Lodge of Glasgow will find her number half a hundred down the roll . Numbers , except as a means of identification of lodges , is a very silly pride . If the members of a lodge have no higher boast than the effete dignity of antiquity , theg had better sink their age . The Lodge Canongate Kilwinning , the alter ego of tho Mother Kilwinning , has

never founded upon her age , but upon her documents ; and ( for honourable sons she depends upon such unknown names as Burns , Kit North , Lockhart , Aytoun , Brougham , Nicholas , Emperor of Russia , Marquis of Dalhousie , Sinclair of Eoshn , & c . If Bro- Speir ' s wishes to follow in the footsteps of Alison , let him look to historical facts , not to age or tradition , in his study . He

will find many to support him in Glasgow who do not belong to 3 ' -. Yours fraternally , " P . L ., C . K . L .

MESH IN ADVERSITY . —The sight of good men struggling with adversity has ever been accounted one of the most touching and edifying of spectacles . It is one of the rewards of virtue to gain in its struggles with fortune the sympathy and respect of the worthy who behold them . Indeed without this incentive there would be even less of virtue in the world than in fact there is . To cleave to virtue simply for virtue ' s sake and with utter disregard of the inions of one ' s fellow-men is a rarer

op achievement than most of us are apt to suppose . Those who have the credit of it are pretty sure to be aware of the fact and are comforted and strengthened by their appreciation of its . value . Human nature being what it is , and temptation so difficult to resist , it is our bounden duty to sustain virtue in misfortune by every plaudit , every recognition of the unmerited calamity which we can devise or which truth can justify . It

is a base fault in a community when , its good men being overtaken by undeserved disaster , it does not hasten to condole with , to encourage and to support them with the sweets o £ generous approbation . — Bound Table .

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SCOTTISH FREEMASONRY. Article 1
MASONIC PILGRIMAGE TO THE ORIENT. Article 2
REMINISCENCES AND EXPERIENCES OF FREEMASONRY. Article 4
OUR AMERICAN CORRESPONDENCE. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
TRAMPS. Article 8
LODGE OF GLASGOW ST. JOHN. Article 9
BRO. SPEIR'S ON THE ANTIQUITY OF SCOTS LODGES. Article 10
MASONIC MEMS. Article 11
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
NORTH WALES AND SHROPSHIRE. Article 15
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 19
REVIEWS. Article 19
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING FEBRUARY 1ST, 1868. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING FEBRUARY 1ST, 1S6S. ' Article 20
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 20
TURKISH BATHS FOR BRIGHTON. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

of our law , and all good men of the nation , both " Clergy , Laicks , or common people , and to all where -these presents shall come , greeting . Whereas our "" -trusty and well-beloved friends , the operative Masons in the city of Glasgow hath , by their petition humbly represented to us that the inhabitants of this city has

been imposed upon by a number of unskilled and in--. sufficient workmen , that has come to work at our Cathedral , and other parts of the city , and also has erected lodges contrary to the rules of Masonry : and being desirous of putting a stop to such unskilled and irregular brothers , most humbly pray us to grant

; ilieui our royal licence and protection for stopping such irregular disorders ; and we , being willing to ¦ g ive all due encouragement to so reasonable a petition are graciously pleased to condescend to their request , and we do by these presents ordain and grant to our petitioners to incorporate themselves together in one

Incorporation , and we strictly discharge any Mason ¦ within the foresaid city to work in it , until he serves liia time as an apprentice for the space of seven years ,

or be married to a freeman't daughter , and he or they shall be examined anent their skill and knowledge on the Mason craft by three of the ablest of the Mason trade , and if he or they be found of cunning or ¦ knowledge , to be received into the incorporation . Each -shall pay twenty pounds Scots to the common funds ,

¦ an d three pouuds to the Altar , and Clerk ' s and Officer ' s dues , whicli the foresaid incorporation shall always be allowed to be the judges of that and other laws made for behoof of the foresaid Incorporation . Item , that the free Incorporate Masons of Glasgow shall have a lodge for ever at the City of Glasgow

, none in my dominions shall erect a lodge until they make application to the St . John ' s Lodge , Glasgow , and they considering their petition , and examining ' ¦ •' ¦ their character and behaviour , grant them a charter ¦ conform to their regulations . Item , that all the _ members of said Incorporation shall have libertto

y quarry stones , lime , sand , and other materials from ¦ the ground of persons , for paying the damages of what they occupy , or damage for building of the foresaid Cathedral . But if the owners of the said lands and

. the foresaid workmen do not agree , each party is to - choose , an honest man , to value the expense of the foresaid damages . Item , and that any having power ¦ from me , maintain my peace firm and stable against : all other pretenders and usurpers who encroach on me or my subjects , to disturb our peace . Item , and

: ifcliat you and all my subjects in this obey the magistrates in all things relating to my peace and the good ef the city . Item , and that you instruct and teach . apprentices , and that none take or employ any man ' s apprentice , when their time of apprenticeshi p is not . completed , under the pain of ing twenty pounds

pay , the one-half to the Incorporation , one-fourth to the T-iodge , and one-fourth to Saint Thomas ' s Altar to . say mass for their souls . Item , and I strictly charge . and command that none take in hand to dioturb the free operative Masons from being incorporated freemenor to have a free lodgeto take away their good

, , name or possession , or harass or do any injury to my -Freemasons and petitioners under the peril of my highest displeasure , and we order that notice be taken that due obedience may be rendered to our pleasure herein declared . Given at our court at Fordie , the ¦ Oth day of October , 1057 years , before these

witnesses : Eari David my brother , Earl Duncan , Earl Gilbert of Monteith , Sir Robert of Velen , Adam of Stenhouse , and Andrew Hamilton , Bishop of Glasgow . "

Bro. Speir's On The Antiquity Of Scots Lodges.

BRO . SPEIR'S ON THE ANTIQUITY OF SCOTS LODGES .

TO THE EDITOK 01 ? TEE V- __ . E ____ . 0-f 5 MAGAZINE AND _ fASO _ fIC StEttKOn . Dear Sir and Brother , —Ihe extraordinary speech of the newly-appointed Grand Master of the Province of Glasgow merits some little attention . I refer to his speech in the Lodge 3- of Glasgow , reported in the Magazine o ? the 11 th inst . I advise him ( supplementing your advice as to the brief , before becoming the

champion of 3 ) , to look at the existing minute-books of the Canongate Kilwinning , when he will find minutes rather earlier than 1736 , aud reasons why the charter of 1677 is not at present in existence . Bro . Cruiekshank ' s interesting sketch of 3 " is a very interesting sketch ; bub that style of production is not generally received , without dispute , in a court of law . We have many disputed

documents in Masonry . When Bro . Speir's brings up , in Grand Lodge , tho claims of 3- to be the oldest lodge of Scotland , the Charter of Malcolm will appear fis another . When 3 ° was received into Grand Lodge in 1850 , it was with great difficulty she received her present number . Lodges , 300 odd , many oH them having paid thousands of pounds to the Masonic exchequer , allowed this lodge to take precedence of them , for no other reason than to get all the so-called old lodges of Scotland

enrolled under one banner . The Melrose Lodge is now the only one independent of General Lodge of Scotland . When she comes in , there will be a question of her number with Mary ' s Chapel , and it strikes me , under the then discussion the numbers of the old lodges , judging from the proofs which I hold in my hand , will be—Mother Kilwinning , 1 ; Canongate Kilwinning , 2 ;

Melrose St . John , 3 ; Mary's Chapel , 4 ; and the Lodge of Glasgow will find her number half a hundred down the roll . Numbers , except as a means of identification of lodges , is a very silly pride . If the members of a lodge have no higher boast than the effete dignity of antiquity , theg had better sink their age . The Lodge Canongate Kilwinning , the alter ego of tho Mother Kilwinning , has

never founded upon her age , but upon her documents ; and ( for honourable sons she depends upon such unknown names as Burns , Kit North , Lockhart , Aytoun , Brougham , Nicholas , Emperor of Russia , Marquis of Dalhousie , Sinclair of Eoshn , & c . If Bro- Speir ' s wishes to follow in the footsteps of Alison , let him look to historical facts , not to age or tradition , in his study . He

will find many to support him in Glasgow who do not belong to 3 ' -. Yours fraternally , " P . L ., C . K . L .

MESH IN ADVERSITY . —The sight of good men struggling with adversity has ever been accounted one of the most touching and edifying of spectacles . It is one of the rewards of virtue to gain in its struggles with fortune the sympathy and respect of the worthy who behold them . Indeed without this incentive there would be even less of virtue in the world than in fact there is . To cleave to virtue simply for virtue ' s sake and with utter disregard of the inions of one ' s fellow-men is a rarer

op achievement than most of us are apt to suppose . Those who have the credit of it are pretty sure to be aware of the fact and are comforted and strengthened by their appreciation of its . value . Human nature being what it is , and temptation so difficult to resist , it is our bounden duty to sustain virtue in misfortune by every plaudit , every recognition of the unmerited calamity which we can devise or which truth can justify . It

is a base fault in a community when , its good men being overtaken by undeserved disaster , it does not hasten to condole with , to encourage and to support them with the sweets o £ generous approbation . — Bound Table .

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