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The Grand Lodge Of Scotland, And The St. John's Lodge Memorial.
plate , as he had performed thafc duty on several previous occasions ; to Avhich the Grand Secretary replied thafc lie did nofc anticipate any objections would be made to bhe request . No blame can be attached fco the late Grand Secretary for nofc
informing the Grand Master of Sfc . John ' s claims . fco the exclusive right of precedence in such cases : he could net be expected to do so , Avhen Sfc . John ' s Lodge had never insisted on these , or ever brought themiforward ( pro forma ) on former occasions when fche Grand Lodge Avas presiding afc demonstrations in the Western Province .
The above are the facts of the case as elicited by your Sub-Commifcfcee . There can be bufc one opinion as to the desirability of some measure being . adopted which shall allay in future the irritation which has sprung up in reference to the right ; or
honour as to who shall carry the working tools , & c , of Grand Lodge . The Journeyman Lodge , at conclusion of their answers state , that " they are not unwilling to enter into an arrangement . whereby the present privileges of the lodge may
be preserved intact , bufc they are also willing thafc such other plan be arranged as -will enable any operative lodge in the Province to enjoy the privilege on intimating a desire to that effect to the Grand Secretary within a reasonable time
previous to the date of the ceremony , and that the same be intimated to the lodge No . 8 . " Bro . Porteous' motion which comes up for discussion afc next quarterly communication ( i . e ., on 6 fch Feb .
1871 ) of Grand Lodge , also seeks to have ifc enacted that " in Provinces out of the Metropolitan district the Avorking tools shall be carried by the Senior Operative Lodge , or failing avhich , the oldest Lodge in fche district on Grand Lodge Roll . "
The Sub-Committee are of opinion that the adoption of either of these motions will not secure a harmonious and lasting decision of the question at issue . Both motions seek to maintain , and that in a new law , a distinction between Operative and
Speculative Masonry , which is not , and has not been recognized by our own or other Grand Lodges for many years past ; and by giving this preference to the elder , they would effectually exclude the younger lodges from the privilege in
question , though it cannot be disputed , thafc they are quite ^ entitled to participate along Avith the older lodges in all honours Grand Lodge has to bestow . Your Committee , in concluding this report ,
The Grand Lodge Of Scotland, And The St. John's Lodge Memorial.
Avould venture to suggest that the simplest and fairest way to settle the point at issue , and secure peace and harmony in future , would be , Avhile allowing the Journeymen Lodge the privilege they have hitherto enjoyed of carrying the working
tools aud other paraphernalia of Grand Lodge in the metropolitan district , that , if it is the wish of the Provincial Grand Lodge of Glasgow—which forms a large and influential section of our Craft , aud Avhose opinions and requests
must always meet Avith brotherly consideration from Grand Lodo-e—that Sfc . John ' s should have the same privilege in that Province the honour should be conceded to No . 3 = there and . in any other
place or Province Avhen the Grand Lodge is officiating , the Grand Master , or the brother acting for him , shall have the poAver of fixing on the Lodge or Lodges to carry the tools , & c , for the occasion , and his decision should nofc be open to
review . This course was adopted by the Earl of Dalhousie afc Forfar in 1869 , when he divided fche honour between the two Lodges of the town in which the demonstration took place , and which arrangement gave general satisfaction to all
parties concerned . Reported by , ( Signed ) ALEX . HAT , DAVID KINNEAE , WILLIAM HAY .
The foregoing Report was submitted to Grand . Lodge at Quarterly Communication on 6 th February , 1871 , and adopted without fche suggestions contained at the close thereof . As fco the motion of Bro . Porfceous , above referred to , owing to his
absence on 6 th February , ifc fell through . Consequently the general arrangement as to carrying working tools for the future has yet to be made .
Separation Of G. Commandery Of Virginia From The G. Encampment, U.S.
SEPARATION OF G . COMMANDERY OF VIRGINIA FROM THE G . ENCAMPMENT , U . S .
The Committee on a separation of the Knights Templar of Virginia , from the Grand Encampment of the United States , appointed in December , 1869 , reported at the last Annual Conclave , held December 15 th , u ! t ., and the report was adopted .
After detailing at great length their discontent , and the reasons therefor , the report concluded Avith fche folloAving preamble and resolutions ;—
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The Grand Lodge Of Scotland, And The St. John's Lodge Memorial.
plate , as he had performed thafc duty on several previous occasions ; to Avhich the Grand Secretary replied thafc lie did nofc anticipate any objections would be made to bhe request . No blame can be attached fco the late Grand Secretary for nofc
informing the Grand Master of Sfc . John ' s claims . fco the exclusive right of precedence in such cases : he could net be expected to do so , Avhen Sfc . John ' s Lodge had never insisted on these , or ever brought themiforward ( pro forma ) on former occasions when fche Grand Lodge Avas presiding afc demonstrations in the Western Province .
The above are the facts of the case as elicited by your Sub-Commifcfcee . There can be bufc one opinion as to the desirability of some measure being . adopted which shall allay in future the irritation which has sprung up in reference to the right ; or
honour as to who shall carry the working tools , & c , of Grand Lodge . The Journeyman Lodge , at conclusion of their answers state , that " they are not unwilling to enter into an arrangement . whereby the present privileges of the lodge may
be preserved intact , bufc they are also willing thafc such other plan be arranged as -will enable any operative lodge in the Province to enjoy the privilege on intimating a desire to that effect to the Grand Secretary within a reasonable time
previous to the date of the ceremony , and that the same be intimated to the lodge No . 8 . " Bro . Porteous' motion which comes up for discussion afc next quarterly communication ( i . e ., on 6 fch Feb .
1871 ) of Grand Lodge , also seeks to have ifc enacted that " in Provinces out of the Metropolitan district the Avorking tools shall be carried by the Senior Operative Lodge , or failing avhich , the oldest Lodge in fche district on Grand Lodge Roll . "
The Sub-Committee are of opinion that the adoption of either of these motions will not secure a harmonious and lasting decision of the question at issue . Both motions seek to maintain , and that in a new law , a distinction between Operative and
Speculative Masonry , which is not , and has not been recognized by our own or other Grand Lodges for many years past ; and by giving this preference to the elder , they would effectually exclude the younger lodges from the privilege in
question , though it cannot be disputed , thafc they are quite ^ entitled to participate along Avith the older lodges in all honours Grand Lodge has to bestow . Your Committee , in concluding this report ,
The Grand Lodge Of Scotland, And The St. John's Lodge Memorial.
Avould venture to suggest that the simplest and fairest way to settle the point at issue , and secure peace and harmony in future , would be , Avhile allowing the Journeymen Lodge the privilege they have hitherto enjoyed of carrying the working
tools aud other paraphernalia of Grand Lodge in the metropolitan district , that , if it is the wish of the Provincial Grand Lodge of Glasgow—which forms a large and influential section of our Craft , aud Avhose opinions and requests
must always meet Avith brotherly consideration from Grand Lodo-e—that Sfc . John ' s should have the same privilege in that Province the honour should be conceded to No . 3 = there and . in any other
place or Province Avhen the Grand Lodge is officiating , the Grand Master , or the brother acting for him , shall have the poAver of fixing on the Lodge or Lodges to carry the tools , & c , for the occasion , and his decision should nofc be open to
review . This course was adopted by the Earl of Dalhousie afc Forfar in 1869 , when he divided fche honour between the two Lodges of the town in which the demonstration took place , and which arrangement gave general satisfaction to all
parties concerned . Reported by , ( Signed ) ALEX . HAT , DAVID KINNEAE , WILLIAM HAY .
The foregoing Report was submitted to Grand . Lodge at Quarterly Communication on 6 th February , 1871 , and adopted without fche suggestions contained at the close thereof . As fco the motion of Bro . Porfceous , above referred to , owing to his
absence on 6 th February , ifc fell through . Consequently the general arrangement as to carrying working tools for the future has yet to be made .
Separation Of G. Commandery Of Virginia From The G. Encampment, U.S.
SEPARATION OF G . COMMANDERY OF VIRGINIA FROM THE G . ENCAMPMENT , U . S .
The Committee on a separation of the Knights Templar of Virginia , from the Grand Encampment of the United States , appointed in December , 1869 , reported at the last Annual Conclave , held December 15 th , u ! t ., and the report was adopted .
After detailing at great length their discontent , and the reasons therefor , the report concluded Avith fche folloAving preamble and resolutions ;—