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Thunder.

THUNDER .

LONDON , SATURDAY , FEBRUARY 27 , 1864 .

It will be seen by tlie following circular tliat tlie FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE has come under tlie displeasure of tlie Provincial Grand Master for tlie Eastern Division of SoutliWal . es . And no bonder . We exposed a great Masonic mistake—we will

use no harsher term . —which took place in the Glamorgan Lodge , when the Provincial Grand Master was present , and ought to have prevented it ; ancl hence this mighty thunder . But it would scarcely have clone to hurl this Jo re-like bolt at our heads

for that offence , ancl we accordingly receive it for publishing a letter from a correspondent , showing that , at a subsequent meeting- of the lodge , the brethren interested generally admitted the error into which they had fallen , and took the necessary steps

for placing the lodge right before the Craft . We "beg respectfully to inform Bro . Charles Kemeys Ketneys Tynte that , notwithstanding ; his thunder , the FEEEJIASONS' MAGAZINE will again appear ne ^ b week , ancl that we shall not altogether lose sight of the Eastern Division of South Wales .

[ Copy . ] " Provincial Grand Lodge of the Eastern Division of South Wales , "Swansea , 4 th February , 1864 . " The W . M . of Mb . 36 , Cardiff , " Woasiiippuii SIK AXD BROTHER , —I am directed by

the " R . W . Prov . G . Master , to call your attention to a letter which appeared in the SViesrAsOiYs' HAGAZISVE of the 16 th tilt ., reporting without his consent the proceedings of the Glamorgan Lodge . This being directly contrary bo the " Book of Constitutions , " I am desired by the Prov . G . Master to request that you , Wor . Sir , with the hrechren

of your lodge , will co-operate with him in checking a proceeding which is an infringement of the laws of Masonry . "I have tho honour to be , "W . Sir and Brother , " Truly and fraternally yours , " GEOKGE ALLU > J , Prov . Q . Sec . "

The Three Grand Lodges.

THE THREE GRAND LODGES .

BY BEO . EOBEET MITCHELL , LATE PEOV . G . SEC , GLASGOW . After unusual delay the " British , Irish , and Colonial Masonic Calendar" has been published in Glasgow . What , may have retarded its

appearance could , no doubt , be satisfactorily explained by the worthy publisher . It is with the contents

of the book , however , not with the circumstances of its publication , that I purpose to deal at present , ancl particularly that portion of it which relates to the Grand Lodges of England , Scotland , and Ireland . My observations will unavoidably partake of a statistical character , but by using round numbers ( not too round ) , where practicable , and in other ways , I trust to succeed in making them readable .

The Grand Lodge of England has of late been applying the pruning knife so liberally to the dead branches encumbering her stately growth , that about 800 lodges have been lopped off her roll . Notwithstanding , she can still count a progeny of 1 , 000 daughters . Before its recent

re-arrangement her roll exhibited 280 foreign and military , ancl 150 London lodges . A good many of these , especially of the foreign , must be dormant now . Calculating them at one-third , which is below the averag-e , there remain in activity 300 London , foreign , and military lodges , ancl 700 in England , exclusive of the metropolis . Pull information connected -with about one half of them has been sent

in to the editor of the Calendar , as the dotiule numbers ( an excellent feature ) on the margin of the list show . Scotland has onl y two Amazonian or military daughters , ancl 59 abroad , amongst her whole family of 810 . At one time the warlike , element pervaded it to a greater extent , no lessthan 23 lodges connected with the British Army having' as various times sank and died ' neath her

standard since it was first unfurled . Ireland has only 300 lodges flourishing , although her roll runs up as high as 1 , 000 , of which 48 are foreign and 10 military . Prom the memorabilia it appears that the Grand Lodge of England was revived in 1717 . How many lodges she had to reign over

then it is impossible to say . She must have had more than the four or so without dates , which are printed prior to No . 6 , erected in 1721 , the first date which occurs on the roll . It is worth while remarking that , even before that comparativel y remote yea-one English lodhas as part of its

, ge title the Scottish name "Inverness ; " and that another ( 25 ) which entered on its career in 1723 , or thii-ty-six years before he was born , has the name of Scotland ' s greatest poet and brilliant " son of light" for its particular designation . The Grand Lodge of Scotland was constituted in

1736 , and at least 24 of the lodges now working under her government were b y that time formed . They did not all , however , concur in the establishment of a rifling power then . Amongst others , No . 32 , which was incorporated by an authentic charter from King Malcolm Canmore , in 1057 , refused to

come under Grand Lodge control , and continued in that perverse mood until within the last fewyears . I have seen the ori ginal charter , at all events the skin on which it was engrossed , but the writing itself was illegible . An exact copy was obtained from the books or chartnrlary , containing the records of the See of Glasgow , and

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THUNDER. Article 1
THE THREE GRAND LODGES. Article 1
THE PORTRAIT—A MASON'S STORY. Article 4
THE COMMON ORIGIN OF THE ANCIENT MYSTERIES. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 11
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 15
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 15
MARK MASONRY. Article 16
INDIA. Article 17
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 17
Obituary. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Thunder.

THUNDER .

LONDON , SATURDAY , FEBRUARY 27 , 1864 .

It will be seen by tlie following circular tliat tlie FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE has come under tlie displeasure of tlie Provincial Grand Master for tlie Eastern Division of SoutliWal . es . And no bonder . We exposed a great Masonic mistake—we will

use no harsher term . —which took place in the Glamorgan Lodge , when the Provincial Grand Master was present , and ought to have prevented it ; ancl hence this mighty thunder . But it would scarcely have clone to hurl this Jo re-like bolt at our heads

for that offence , ancl we accordingly receive it for publishing a letter from a correspondent , showing that , at a subsequent meeting- of the lodge , the brethren interested generally admitted the error into which they had fallen , and took the necessary steps

for placing the lodge right before the Craft . We "beg respectfully to inform Bro . Charles Kemeys Ketneys Tynte that , notwithstanding ; his thunder , the FEEEJIASONS' MAGAZINE will again appear ne ^ b week , ancl that we shall not altogether lose sight of the Eastern Division of South Wales .

[ Copy . ] " Provincial Grand Lodge of the Eastern Division of South Wales , "Swansea , 4 th February , 1864 . " The W . M . of Mb . 36 , Cardiff , " Woasiiippuii SIK AXD BROTHER , —I am directed by

the " R . W . Prov . G . Master , to call your attention to a letter which appeared in the SViesrAsOiYs' HAGAZISVE of the 16 th tilt ., reporting without his consent the proceedings of the Glamorgan Lodge . This being directly contrary bo the " Book of Constitutions , " I am desired by the Prov . G . Master to request that you , Wor . Sir , with the hrechren

of your lodge , will co-operate with him in checking a proceeding which is an infringement of the laws of Masonry . "I have tho honour to be , "W . Sir and Brother , " Truly and fraternally yours , " GEOKGE ALLU > J , Prov . Q . Sec . "

The Three Grand Lodges.

THE THREE GRAND LODGES .

BY BEO . EOBEET MITCHELL , LATE PEOV . G . SEC , GLASGOW . After unusual delay the " British , Irish , and Colonial Masonic Calendar" has been published in Glasgow . What , may have retarded its

appearance could , no doubt , be satisfactorily explained by the worthy publisher . It is with the contents

of the book , however , not with the circumstances of its publication , that I purpose to deal at present , ancl particularly that portion of it which relates to the Grand Lodges of England , Scotland , and Ireland . My observations will unavoidably partake of a statistical character , but by using round numbers ( not too round ) , where practicable , and in other ways , I trust to succeed in making them readable .

The Grand Lodge of England has of late been applying the pruning knife so liberally to the dead branches encumbering her stately growth , that about 800 lodges have been lopped off her roll . Notwithstanding , she can still count a progeny of 1 , 000 daughters . Before its recent

re-arrangement her roll exhibited 280 foreign and military , ancl 150 London lodges . A good many of these , especially of the foreign , must be dormant now . Calculating them at one-third , which is below the averag-e , there remain in activity 300 London , foreign , and military lodges , ancl 700 in England , exclusive of the metropolis . Pull information connected -with about one half of them has been sent

in to the editor of the Calendar , as the dotiule numbers ( an excellent feature ) on the margin of the list show . Scotland has onl y two Amazonian or military daughters , ancl 59 abroad , amongst her whole family of 810 . At one time the warlike , element pervaded it to a greater extent , no lessthan 23 lodges connected with the British Army having' as various times sank and died ' neath her

standard since it was first unfurled . Ireland has only 300 lodges flourishing , although her roll runs up as high as 1 , 000 , of which 48 are foreign and 10 military . Prom the memorabilia it appears that the Grand Lodge of England was revived in 1717 . How many lodges she had to reign over

then it is impossible to say . She must have had more than the four or so without dates , which are printed prior to No . 6 , erected in 1721 , the first date which occurs on the roll . It is worth while remarking that , even before that comparativel y remote yea-one English lodhas as part of its

, ge title the Scottish name "Inverness ; " and that another ( 25 ) which entered on its career in 1723 , or thii-ty-six years before he was born , has the name of Scotland ' s greatest poet and brilliant " son of light" for its particular designation . The Grand Lodge of Scotland was constituted in

1736 , and at least 24 of the lodges now working under her government were b y that time formed . They did not all , however , concur in the establishment of a rifling power then . Amongst others , No . 32 , which was incorporated by an authentic charter from King Malcolm Canmore , in 1057 , refused to

come under Grand Lodge control , and continued in that perverse mood until within the last fewyears . I have seen the ori ginal charter , at all events the skin on which it was engrossed , but the writing itself was illegible . An exact copy was obtained from the books or chartnrlary , containing the records of the See of Glasgow , and

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