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Masonic Notes And Queries.

EZfDLESSNESS OF FUTURE PUNISHMENT . My answer to the letter of "A Christian Mason , " Brightelmstone , " is , that the endlessness of future punishment is not a necessary doctrine in the Church ¦ of England . —C . P . COOPER . MASONIC JEWEL .

I send you for inspection a curious jewel iu silver gilt . ¦ It was worn b y an eminent Mason , who for many years resided in Austria , and one of whose sons has recentl y been initiated into Masonry in a scientific lodge in London . Cau any of vour correspondents enlighten me as to what this jewel relates towhether

, it is Masonic , and , if so . of what order ? I think the -figure in the centre is the crest of the owner . The jewel was worn at Masonic meetings , and was suspended b y a green ribbon . —C . E . [ We have had the jewel engraved to accompany the . present query . —ED . ' F . 31 . 1

Masonic Exchange.

MASONIC EXCHANGE .

NOTICE . The system of exchanges of objects wanted , by . newspaper correspondence , has of late afforded considerable assistance iu mutual accommodation , and we are disposed to afford the same facilities to our

subscribers . Communications addressed to us will meet with -attention . A on-subscribers can remit sixpence in postage stamps for notices to be inserted of objects wanted , or

at disposal . The following inquiries have lean received . 1 . D . C . wishes to dispose of some old seala and diplomas . 2 . C . It . has some Mark clothing he would exchange

fur a Eose Croix apron , & c . All answers to be addressed ( post paid ) to the respective numbers and iuitials , Freemasons' Magazine office , Salisbury-street , W . C .. London .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondent , II . E . H . PEINCE SKANDEEBEG .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC MIBEOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —The very candid letter of Bros . A . D . Loeweustark and Sons does great credit to that hi g hly respectable firm . As they say , they cannot be expected to possess any particular knowledge of political or personal pretensions of persons suitably authenticated to them by the introduction of

eminent individuals of known rank and probity . This would be quite a sufficient answer , and no one could , after their declaration , ask the names of eminent individuals of known rank and probity , or in any way address them further in the matter , if in their openness they had nofc referred to historical

questions which belong to the public domain , and referred to a public man so well known as Alexandre Dumas . Even the fact that there are impostors about pretending to be kings and princes would not have justified anyone in troubling Messrs . Loewenstark further , but their own communications , founded , perhaps , on erroneous information , tend unintentionally on their part to throw discredit on the Prince of

Croia , or whatever respectable man may be their customer . As I , like themselves , have been unfortunately dragged into this controversy , I am compelled , however unwillingly , to show more fully the grounds for the doubts now prevailing among the public , and it will be a matter of great satisfaction if the result should be to put the true prince in his right character

before the public , and to clear him from the machinations of impostors . It is very unfortunate for King or Prince Croia , or Skanderbeg , or whomsoever he may be , that Dumas should have put his mantle over II . E . H . I should be no more astonished at Dumas creating anyone Prince

Skanderbeg or of Croia , than at his creating Ada Menken Duchess of Croia , or of Burgundy , or of Monte Christo . Since Dumas believed he made Garibaldi Dictator and himself King of Naples , he is capable of any extravagance of the sort . Do Messrs . Loeweustark mean to say that Dumas was author of

the proclamation of Alexander I ., King of E pirus , which obtained considerable publicity in the journals , and might have been contributed to " Punch" or the " Charivari ?"

Setting aside Alexandre Dumas , if one could , there is the most unfortunate circumstance of attributing to the Prince of Croia a residence at Durazze with the Provisional Government or Junta , as regular a romance as Dumas could perpetrate . If Messrs . Loewenstark know where Durazzo or Derakh is , they ought to know that it is still and has been under the

government of a Turkish Pasha , and the Prince of Croia , Dumas , and Co . would be assuredl y committed to jail , if found there . Messrs . Loewenstark and Dumas say Prince Skanderbeg is a native and citizen of Venice ; other authorities say there is a Prince Skanderbeg who is a native and citizen of Naples ; aud others say there is a Prince Skanderbeg who was a bookseller ' s assistant in Naples , and who has been selling cheap , decora-

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AN ANALYSIS OF ANCIENT AND MODERN FREEMASONRY. Article 1
(No. II.)—LES ATELIERS DU GRANDORIENT. Article 5
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
MASONIC EXCHANGE. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
FREEMASONRY AND CHRISTIANITY. Article 12
MASONRY IN FRANCE. Article 13
THE TENDENCY OF SOME CORRESPONDENCE. Article 14
MASONIC KNIGHTS OF CONSTANTINOPLE. Article 14
LODGE OF INSTRUCTION FOR GLASGOW. Article 14
THE M.W. BRO. ROBERT MORRIS, L.L.D., &c Article 15
CONFIRMATION OF LODGE MINUTES. Article 15
ILLUSTEATION OF FINCH'S TRACING BOARD. Article 15
MASONIC MEM. Article 17
METROPOLITAN. Article 17
PROVINCIAL. Article 17
SCOTLAND. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 19
CHESHIRE EDUCATIONAL MASONIC INSTITUTION. Article 19
HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE AND BRO. S. MAY Article 20
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 20
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING APRIL 4TH, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

EZfDLESSNESS OF FUTURE PUNISHMENT . My answer to the letter of "A Christian Mason , " Brightelmstone , " is , that the endlessness of future punishment is not a necessary doctrine in the Church ¦ of England . —C . P . COOPER . MASONIC JEWEL .

I send you for inspection a curious jewel iu silver gilt . ¦ It was worn b y an eminent Mason , who for many years resided in Austria , and one of whose sons has recentl y been initiated into Masonry in a scientific lodge in London . Cau any of vour correspondents enlighten me as to what this jewel relates towhether

, it is Masonic , and , if so . of what order ? I think the -figure in the centre is the crest of the owner . The jewel was worn at Masonic meetings , and was suspended b y a green ribbon . —C . E . [ We have had the jewel engraved to accompany the . present query . —ED . ' F . 31 . 1

Masonic Exchange.

MASONIC EXCHANGE .

NOTICE . The system of exchanges of objects wanted , by . newspaper correspondence , has of late afforded considerable assistance iu mutual accommodation , and we are disposed to afford the same facilities to our

subscribers . Communications addressed to us will meet with -attention . A on-subscribers can remit sixpence in postage stamps for notices to be inserted of objects wanted , or

at disposal . The following inquiries have lean received . 1 . D . C . wishes to dispose of some old seala and diplomas . 2 . C . It . has some Mark clothing he would exchange

fur a Eose Croix apron , & c . All answers to be addressed ( post paid ) to the respective numbers and iuitials , Freemasons' Magazine office , Salisbury-street , W . C .. London .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondent , II . E . H . PEINCE SKANDEEBEG .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC MIBEOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —The very candid letter of Bros . A . D . Loeweustark and Sons does great credit to that hi g hly respectable firm . As they say , they cannot be expected to possess any particular knowledge of political or personal pretensions of persons suitably authenticated to them by the introduction of

eminent individuals of known rank and probity . This would be quite a sufficient answer , and no one could , after their declaration , ask the names of eminent individuals of known rank and probity , or in any way address them further in the matter , if in their openness they had nofc referred to historical

questions which belong to the public domain , and referred to a public man so well known as Alexandre Dumas . Even the fact that there are impostors about pretending to be kings and princes would not have justified anyone in troubling Messrs . Loewenstark further , but their own communications , founded , perhaps , on erroneous information , tend unintentionally on their part to throw discredit on the Prince of

Croia , or whatever respectable man may be their customer . As I , like themselves , have been unfortunately dragged into this controversy , I am compelled , however unwillingly , to show more fully the grounds for the doubts now prevailing among the public , and it will be a matter of great satisfaction if the result should be to put the true prince in his right character

before the public , and to clear him from the machinations of impostors . It is very unfortunate for King or Prince Croia , or Skanderbeg , or whomsoever he may be , that Dumas should have put his mantle over II . E . H . I should be no more astonished at Dumas creating anyone Prince

Skanderbeg or of Croia , than at his creating Ada Menken Duchess of Croia , or of Burgundy , or of Monte Christo . Since Dumas believed he made Garibaldi Dictator and himself King of Naples , he is capable of any extravagance of the sort . Do Messrs . Loeweustark mean to say that Dumas was author of

the proclamation of Alexander I ., King of E pirus , which obtained considerable publicity in the journals , and might have been contributed to " Punch" or the " Charivari ?"

Setting aside Alexandre Dumas , if one could , there is the most unfortunate circumstance of attributing to the Prince of Croia a residence at Durazze with the Provisional Government or Junta , as regular a romance as Dumas could perpetrate . If Messrs . Loewenstark know where Durazzo or Derakh is , they ought to know that it is still and has been under the

government of a Turkish Pasha , and the Prince of Croia , Dumas , and Co . would be assuredl y committed to jail , if found there . Messrs . Loewenstark and Dumas say Prince Skanderbeg is a native and citizen of Venice ; other authorities say there is a Prince Skanderbeg who is a native and citizen of Naples ; aud others say there is a Prince Skanderbeg who was a bookseller ' s assistant in Naples , and who has been selling cheap , decora-

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