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Correspondence.

Sir , years rolled on , and I—an older , and , perhaps , too , a sadder man—at least , I was more seriously occupied—I met with during my contact with diplomatic personages in Paris a striking resemblance to my old friend the Prince in a photographic portrait forwarded by the Prench police to the Embassy .

It was , indeed , my long lost friend and former travelling companion—older , and slightly stouter than formerly , true , but still the same princely man . A very curious history was obtained of his career by that highly intelligent but inquisitive body of men , the French police . I ascertained from them that the

noble Prince was believed not to be a Preemason , though he professed to be everything and anything . I thought it better to know nothing of and to inquire nothing more about H . E . H . the Prince , for the motto which you use , and I then considered as a maxim worth remembering and putting in practice—Audi ,

Fide , Tace . But I did afterwards hear what became of the Prince , but with that I need not trouble you nor your readers , and except that this brief recital " may point a moral and adorn a tale , " should certainly feel bound to apologise . Is , then , H . E . H . Prince Scanderbeg a Preemason ?

I stick to my first question . If he is not , pray do not consider me rude if I add a word of advice to your correspondents , leave him alone in peace , let him continue to use medals , aud , if he likes , vellum and wax too , and have generals , colonels , and counts also by the dozen . Tours fraternally , AN OLD DIPLOMAT .

Freemasonry And Christianity.

FREEMASONRY AND CHRISTIANITY .

TO TllK EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I feel it an ungracious duty to differ from Bro . PL B . AVhite , and to maintain that Preemasonry is not founded upon Christianity . The rituals of the first three degrees may have been prepared by Christians , but the Eoyal Arch , Clavel

insists upon , was concocted last century by three Jews . The spirit of St . John ' s Preemasonry , however , was in active operation among great minds long before the Christian era ; it animated the proceedings of the ancient Egyptians , the followers of Elensis , and the Essenes . it forms , indeed , the doctrines of

Confucius , which may be summed up in his words : " I teach you nothing but what you can learn for yourselves ; viz ., the observance of the three fundamental laws of relation between sovereign and subject , parent and child , husband and wife- and the ' five cardinal virtues—universal charitimpartial justice

y , , conformity to ceremonies and established usages , rectitude of heart aud mind , and pure sincerity . " Of course everyone is aware that , before the year 1813 , the two Saints . John were the patrons of our Order in Christendom , but will Bro . White answer me why Jews were received into the Order before

that period , and how they got over the difficulty ? In Scotland a Jew takes the obligation hat on head and standing , which I presume is the custom in other countries . I am not aware whether the Musselnian brethren acknowledge these patrons , but perhaps Bro . Hyde Clarke can tell us ; and some brother from the far East may enlighten us relative to the admission of

Freemasonry And Christianity.

Hindoos and Chinese . It is a most difficult question altogether , and one which , for the sake of Preemasonry , should be set for ever at rest , although the first charge to a Preemason given in the Grand Lodge Constitutions , " concerning God and religion , " leaves no doubt in my mind as to the teachings of the Craft

, which require in every candidate for its mysteries the tongue of good report , a belief in a Supreme Being ,, and of the immortality of the soul . . There its requirements end , and the candidate must then follow the faith he believes in , out of lodge , whether it be that of Christ , Vishnu , or Mahomet .

I would receive a Mahomedan , a Chinese , a Hindoo , and a Jew , for I believe both the Grand Lodges of Scotland and England have many of each denomination on their roll ; and I should swear them severally , according to their different creeds , upon the Koran , the Works of Confuciusthe Vedasand the

, , Old Testament , these being the " unerring standardsof truth and justice " to them . I have seen a Eoman Catholic sworn upon a crucifix , for he could not believe in our translation of the Bible . We lmisfc

bear in mind that , while as Christians , we believe the-Hindoos and others follow blind faiths , they entertain the same opiuion of us , and finite wisdom will be judged by Infinite wisdom . It is at this point we must then stop , insisting that our candidates shall be moral , truthful , and peaceable men , believing in a

Supreme Being , and in the immortality of the souL To say that Christianity is the original of Preemasonry , is to proclaim the Order sectarian and not universal , limiting its members only to Christians , Besides , who is a true Christian ? for only a true Christianaccording to Bro . Whitecan be a true

, , Preemason . The Eoman Catholic Church declares herself to be the only true Church , and all others dissenting to be heretical . So does the Greek Church - Protestants entertain the same views . The Churr . h

ot Christ has been split into so many sects that each appears the shadow of a shaving of a splinter . Bro . White asks me , "Is Christianity truth ? " but he does not tell me what he means by Christianity . I believe the teachings of Christ to be truth—not the teachings of a sect arrogating the title of " the only true Church . "

" What is Preemasonry ? " Preemasonry may be said to be a temple where men of every rank , nation , and religion ( i . e ., that inculcates a belief in a Supreme Being , the immortality of the soul , and teaches morality- ) , who possess moral worth aud fair abilities meet upon a level for the cultivation of virtue and

peace , it is a ground of equality where all can meet and where neither political nor religious topics can be introduced , and , in my opinion , the very discussion of a presumed Christian ori gin of Preemasonry is against all Masonic teaching and law , and has arisen within these few years among brethren whose zeal for

the cause of the Cross makes them intolerant to the claims of frail humanity . It is the hei ght of arrogance to assume such an ori gin for our Order , and there is amongst us many a Hindoo , Chinese , Mahomedan , Jew , and Unitarian whose faithful and benevolent discharge of his Masonic duties puts to the blush the indifferent Christian brethren .

In conclusion , would Bro . White kindl y look at the charge concerning " God and reli gion , " aud tell me if the doctrines therein contained were not known to

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AN ANALYSIS OF ANCIENT AND MODERN FREEMASONRY. Article 1
(No. II.)—LES ATELIERS DU GRANDORIENT. Article 5
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
MASONIC EXCHANGE. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
FREEMASONRY AND CHRISTIANITY. Article 12
MASONRY IN FRANCE. Article 13
THE TENDENCY OF SOME CORRESPONDENCE. Article 14
MASONIC KNIGHTS OF CONSTANTINOPLE. Article 14
LODGE OF INSTRUCTION FOR GLASGOW. Article 14
THE M.W. BRO. ROBERT MORRIS, L.L.D., &c Article 15
CONFIRMATION OF LODGE MINUTES. Article 15
ILLUSTEATION OF FINCH'S TRACING BOARD. Article 15
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METROPOLITAN. Article 17
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SCOTLAND. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 19
CHESHIRE EDUCATIONAL MASONIC INSTITUTION. Article 19
HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE AND BRO. S. MAY Article 20
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 20
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING APRIL 4TH, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Correspondence.

Sir , years rolled on , and I—an older , and , perhaps , too , a sadder man—at least , I was more seriously occupied—I met with during my contact with diplomatic personages in Paris a striking resemblance to my old friend the Prince in a photographic portrait forwarded by the Prench police to the Embassy .

It was , indeed , my long lost friend and former travelling companion—older , and slightly stouter than formerly , true , but still the same princely man . A very curious history was obtained of his career by that highly intelligent but inquisitive body of men , the French police . I ascertained from them that the

noble Prince was believed not to be a Preemason , though he professed to be everything and anything . I thought it better to know nothing of and to inquire nothing more about H . E . H . the Prince , for the motto which you use , and I then considered as a maxim worth remembering and putting in practice—Audi ,

Fide , Tace . But I did afterwards hear what became of the Prince , but with that I need not trouble you nor your readers , and except that this brief recital " may point a moral and adorn a tale , " should certainly feel bound to apologise . Is , then , H . E . H . Prince Scanderbeg a Preemason ?

I stick to my first question . If he is not , pray do not consider me rude if I add a word of advice to your correspondents , leave him alone in peace , let him continue to use medals , aud , if he likes , vellum and wax too , and have generals , colonels , and counts also by the dozen . Tours fraternally , AN OLD DIPLOMAT .

Freemasonry And Christianity.

FREEMASONRY AND CHRISTIANITY .

TO TllK EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I feel it an ungracious duty to differ from Bro . PL B . AVhite , and to maintain that Preemasonry is not founded upon Christianity . The rituals of the first three degrees may have been prepared by Christians , but the Eoyal Arch , Clavel

insists upon , was concocted last century by three Jews . The spirit of St . John ' s Preemasonry , however , was in active operation among great minds long before the Christian era ; it animated the proceedings of the ancient Egyptians , the followers of Elensis , and the Essenes . it forms , indeed , the doctrines of

Confucius , which may be summed up in his words : " I teach you nothing but what you can learn for yourselves ; viz ., the observance of the three fundamental laws of relation between sovereign and subject , parent and child , husband and wife- and the ' five cardinal virtues—universal charitimpartial justice

y , , conformity to ceremonies and established usages , rectitude of heart aud mind , and pure sincerity . " Of course everyone is aware that , before the year 1813 , the two Saints . John were the patrons of our Order in Christendom , but will Bro . White answer me why Jews were received into the Order before

that period , and how they got over the difficulty ? In Scotland a Jew takes the obligation hat on head and standing , which I presume is the custom in other countries . I am not aware whether the Musselnian brethren acknowledge these patrons , but perhaps Bro . Hyde Clarke can tell us ; and some brother from the far East may enlighten us relative to the admission of

Freemasonry And Christianity.

Hindoos and Chinese . It is a most difficult question altogether , and one which , for the sake of Preemasonry , should be set for ever at rest , although the first charge to a Preemason given in the Grand Lodge Constitutions , " concerning God and religion , " leaves no doubt in my mind as to the teachings of the Craft

, which require in every candidate for its mysteries the tongue of good report , a belief in a Supreme Being ,, and of the immortality of the soul . . There its requirements end , and the candidate must then follow the faith he believes in , out of lodge , whether it be that of Christ , Vishnu , or Mahomet .

I would receive a Mahomedan , a Chinese , a Hindoo , and a Jew , for I believe both the Grand Lodges of Scotland and England have many of each denomination on their roll ; and I should swear them severally , according to their different creeds , upon the Koran , the Works of Confuciusthe Vedasand the

, , Old Testament , these being the " unerring standardsof truth and justice " to them . I have seen a Eoman Catholic sworn upon a crucifix , for he could not believe in our translation of the Bible . We lmisfc

bear in mind that , while as Christians , we believe the-Hindoos and others follow blind faiths , they entertain the same opiuion of us , and finite wisdom will be judged by Infinite wisdom . It is at this point we must then stop , insisting that our candidates shall be moral , truthful , and peaceable men , believing in a

Supreme Being , and in the immortality of the souL To say that Christianity is the original of Preemasonry , is to proclaim the Order sectarian and not universal , limiting its members only to Christians , Besides , who is a true Christian ? for only a true Christianaccording to Bro . Whitecan be a true

, , Preemason . The Eoman Catholic Church declares herself to be the only true Church , and all others dissenting to be heretical . So does the Greek Church - Protestants entertain the same views . The Churr . h

ot Christ has been split into so many sects that each appears the shadow of a shaving of a splinter . Bro . White asks me , "Is Christianity truth ? " but he does not tell me what he means by Christianity . I believe the teachings of Christ to be truth—not the teachings of a sect arrogating the title of " the only true Church . "

" What is Preemasonry ? " Preemasonry may be said to be a temple where men of every rank , nation , and religion ( i . e ., that inculcates a belief in a Supreme Being , the immortality of the soul , and teaches morality- ) , who possess moral worth aud fair abilities meet upon a level for the cultivation of virtue and

peace , it is a ground of equality where all can meet and where neither political nor religious topics can be introduced , and , in my opinion , the very discussion of a presumed Christian ori gin of Preemasonry is against all Masonic teaching and law , and has arisen within these few years among brethren whose zeal for

the cause of the Cross makes them intolerant to the claims of frail humanity . It is the hei ght of arrogance to assume such an ori gin for our Order , and there is amongst us many a Hindoo , Chinese , Mahomedan , Jew , and Unitarian whose faithful and benevolent discharge of his Masonic duties puts to the blush the indifferent Christian brethren .

In conclusion , would Bro . White kindl y look at the charge concerning " God and reli gion , " aud tell me if the doctrines therein contained were not known to

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