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Apathy In Our Order.

brother presumes that I took from the 17 th July to the 2 nd inst . to fulminate my epistle anent his . In this he errs , for my attention had accidentally been drawn to the matter a day or so before f wrote . But this is of little consequence , as a great deal more of his superabundance is inelevant to the subject , and , not having read his article of the 6 fch Feb . I must

, have lost a treat , and confess myself so much the more ignorant of it . In my letter of the 7 th inst ., I said that " good moral character according to his creed was the only requisite . "

Now , I do not mean to pretend to so much profundity of knowledge in speculative Masonry as Bro . B . does , but I hold that a man may be a good moral man , an excellent citizen , and have done good service to mankind , yet withal be disqualified by the prescriptive conditions ofthe Order from entering therein . To employ a man's mind for the most universal

benefit , it is not necessary to envelope , or develope it in the lodge room , and , in fact , our brother ' s mind seems so capacious and expansive that even the St . Mark ' s Hall cannot contain it . While , however , sanity and moral character are insisted on , the physical condition ofthe individual must to all

appearance be sound and perfect , otherwise , what need is there of preparation ? Is that not as near as can he passing the doctor ? What availeth the five points of felloAVship often so eloquently delivered on ; why waste wind , gas , light , and precious time on the whole altar ordeal if they be mere shams , and not indispensible

essentials in Masonic teaching ? What are grips and signs to a person minus digits and dexters ; what are lights or signs to a blind man , or words to a deaf man or a mute , and when heels , hollows , and knees are gone , I guess and speculate it were nothing short of insult to hobble a man up to the altar to lecture him on the importance and use of them in the Craft .

The reference of your correspondent to the Hon . Mr . Kavanah has no point with it in my eyes , there being nothing in the constitution of Parliament to debar him from sitting there ; it is otherwise , however , in the unalterable landmarks of Ereemasonry and the O . B . 's which bind us to them . Quacks and

empirics have existed during all ages , and in all professions of the world , and even Freemasonry at the present hour is not able toirradicate it , but seems susceptible of being tainted by it ; and I presume we must be content with that phenomena amongst us still , though it should appear in " Buchan or ither chaps . "

By-the-hye , I was present last week where a brother of _ a local historic name officiated and passed and raised two E . A . ' s ; he was exceedingly earnest and particular in impressing them Avith the indispensible value and uses of their limbs in a Masonic sense , from the ti ps of their fingers to the soles of their feet ; but it certainl

y was astonishing to hear the same individual assert in the adjacent a few minutes after , that he was going to initiate the candidate wanting the left hand , and I am certain he is neither a Milton nor a Nelson , although , for aught I know , he is a decent man . This official likewise referred to the benefits

derivable from Masonry on the field of battle , but this only corroborates my statement in my last letter that warriors and sailors should become accepted before campaigning or going to sea , and not defer ( as the intention of the society repudiates ) till the season

Apathy In Our Order.

of its charitable and humane operation has passed away . Bro . Buchan asserts that he acted in receiving the candidate short of his right arm on the authority of the Grand Lodge of Scotland . Let me remind him that I am only bound to abide by her so long as she

abides by the ancient landmarks , and I simply copy such authority as the G . S . gave my mother lodge without comment upon its vagueneso : — " In reply to yours of yesterday , I beg to inform you , that in many instances , persons afflicted with lameness such as describehave been admitted

you , into the Order ; but as there is no definite law on the subject , but merely an understanding , I would advise you to lay the matter before a full meeting of the lodge , and take the opinion of the brethren as to whether the candidate is a fit and proper person for admission . Any mental defect should certainly he

held as a valid objection to his initiation . " Bro . B . seems to escheAV the binding nature of my O . B altogether , and treats it very lightly indeed ; in so much so that seeing I and others cannot be present at these lame initiations , I would suggest that he or the brother formerly referred to invite us to a

lecture on the subject of their new light and means of absolution . Yours fraternally , llth . August , 1869 . W . L .

' JOINING BRETHREN AND INITIATIONS . TO THE EDITOR OE TEE EKEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEBOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —The question opened by > J < B > J < in your number of August 7 th , and my few remarks in regard to it on the 14 th , have elicited satisfactory replies from BrosHughanCruxand

. , , ? J" B >|< . The latter is rather hard upon me in supposing that my case in 1863 was one of the irregularities which led to an alteration , for I do not hesitate to say that every precaution was taken in that instance . If I remember rightly , the brethren named in the warrantgranted in Marchhad the

, , authority of the Prov . G . M ., for meeting at once to transact business but not to perform ceremonies before the day of constitution and consecration , which was May 6 th . Part of that business was the formation of the by-laws , which , having been adopted at a previous meetingwere confirmed previous to the

cere-, monies on the day of "constitution , " to use the correct term suggested by Crux . I ascertain that point from the dates given in the printed by-laws . This shows that , according to Bro . Hughan , at that time no irregularity was committed by admitting new memberswhether bjoining initiationCrux

, y or . says that on the day of " constitution ' " the ceremonies of passing and raising , for which no previous notice is required , may be performed , " and consequently there can be no impropriety in proposing neAV members at the same period . This answers the original question of * B * .

As it is very possible that the precautions I took in the formation of the lodge may not have been adopted in all cases , I quite concur in the propriety of the nev ? arrangement named by Bro . Hughan . My object was not to argue the question , into which Crux has entered so fully , but to ascertain the authority , which is not in the Book of Constitutions , for the first statement of > J < B * . —H . H .

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Untitled Article 1
ORGANISATION IN FREEMASONRY. Article 1
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 2
MASONIC DISCIPLINE.—XIX. Article 4
REFORMATION THEORY OF THE ORIGIN OF FREEMASONRY. Article 5
MASONIC ARCHÆOLOGICAL INSTITUTE. Article 6
FRATERNITY. Article 8
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
APATHY IN OUR ORDER. Article 10
THE MASONIC WINDOWS IN WORCESTER CATHEDRAL. Article 12
MASONIC DISCIPLINE. Article 12
FREEMASONRY ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY-TWO YEARS OLD. Article 13
EARLY BIBLES AND THEIR TITLES. Article 13
MASONIC DISCIPLINE.—SALUTING. Article 13
Untitled Article 14
MASONIC MEMS Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
CAPE OF GOOD HOPE. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 15
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA , AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 15
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER; OR WHAT IS MASONRY? Article 16
" CHRISTIAN," A TERM OF WIDE SIGNIFICANCE ! Article 17
HAVE OUR GRAND LODGES ALL BEEN LEGALLY ORGANISED? Article 17
INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM. Article 19
MASONIC SOLICITUDE. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
HER NAME. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 4TH SEPTEMBER, 1869. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGES AND CHAPTERS OF INSTRUCTION. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS Article 20
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Apathy In Our Order.

brother presumes that I took from the 17 th July to the 2 nd inst . to fulminate my epistle anent his . In this he errs , for my attention had accidentally been drawn to the matter a day or so before f wrote . But this is of little consequence , as a great deal more of his superabundance is inelevant to the subject , and , not having read his article of the 6 fch Feb . I must

, have lost a treat , and confess myself so much the more ignorant of it . In my letter of the 7 th inst ., I said that " good moral character according to his creed was the only requisite . "

Now , I do not mean to pretend to so much profundity of knowledge in speculative Masonry as Bro . B . does , but I hold that a man may be a good moral man , an excellent citizen , and have done good service to mankind , yet withal be disqualified by the prescriptive conditions ofthe Order from entering therein . To employ a man's mind for the most universal

benefit , it is not necessary to envelope , or develope it in the lodge room , and , in fact , our brother ' s mind seems so capacious and expansive that even the St . Mark ' s Hall cannot contain it . While , however , sanity and moral character are insisted on , the physical condition ofthe individual must to all

appearance be sound and perfect , otherwise , what need is there of preparation ? Is that not as near as can he passing the doctor ? What availeth the five points of felloAVship often so eloquently delivered on ; why waste wind , gas , light , and precious time on the whole altar ordeal if they be mere shams , and not indispensible

essentials in Masonic teaching ? What are grips and signs to a person minus digits and dexters ; what are lights or signs to a blind man , or words to a deaf man or a mute , and when heels , hollows , and knees are gone , I guess and speculate it were nothing short of insult to hobble a man up to the altar to lecture him on the importance and use of them in the Craft .

The reference of your correspondent to the Hon . Mr . Kavanah has no point with it in my eyes , there being nothing in the constitution of Parliament to debar him from sitting there ; it is otherwise , however , in the unalterable landmarks of Ereemasonry and the O . B . 's which bind us to them . Quacks and

empirics have existed during all ages , and in all professions of the world , and even Freemasonry at the present hour is not able toirradicate it , but seems susceptible of being tainted by it ; and I presume we must be content with that phenomena amongst us still , though it should appear in " Buchan or ither chaps . "

By-the-hye , I was present last week where a brother of _ a local historic name officiated and passed and raised two E . A . ' s ; he was exceedingly earnest and particular in impressing them Avith the indispensible value and uses of their limbs in a Masonic sense , from the ti ps of their fingers to the soles of their feet ; but it certainl

y was astonishing to hear the same individual assert in the adjacent a few minutes after , that he was going to initiate the candidate wanting the left hand , and I am certain he is neither a Milton nor a Nelson , although , for aught I know , he is a decent man . This official likewise referred to the benefits

derivable from Masonry on the field of battle , but this only corroborates my statement in my last letter that warriors and sailors should become accepted before campaigning or going to sea , and not defer ( as the intention of the society repudiates ) till the season

Apathy In Our Order.

of its charitable and humane operation has passed away . Bro . Buchan asserts that he acted in receiving the candidate short of his right arm on the authority of the Grand Lodge of Scotland . Let me remind him that I am only bound to abide by her so long as she

abides by the ancient landmarks , and I simply copy such authority as the G . S . gave my mother lodge without comment upon its vagueneso : — " In reply to yours of yesterday , I beg to inform you , that in many instances , persons afflicted with lameness such as describehave been admitted

you , into the Order ; but as there is no definite law on the subject , but merely an understanding , I would advise you to lay the matter before a full meeting of the lodge , and take the opinion of the brethren as to whether the candidate is a fit and proper person for admission . Any mental defect should certainly he

held as a valid objection to his initiation . " Bro . B . seems to escheAV the binding nature of my O . B altogether , and treats it very lightly indeed ; in so much so that seeing I and others cannot be present at these lame initiations , I would suggest that he or the brother formerly referred to invite us to a

lecture on the subject of their new light and means of absolution . Yours fraternally , llth . August , 1869 . W . L .

' JOINING BRETHREN AND INITIATIONS . TO THE EDITOR OE TEE EKEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEBOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —The question opened by > J < B > J < in your number of August 7 th , and my few remarks in regard to it on the 14 th , have elicited satisfactory replies from BrosHughanCruxand

. , , ? J" B >|< . The latter is rather hard upon me in supposing that my case in 1863 was one of the irregularities which led to an alteration , for I do not hesitate to say that every precaution was taken in that instance . If I remember rightly , the brethren named in the warrantgranted in Marchhad the

, , authority of the Prov . G . M ., for meeting at once to transact business but not to perform ceremonies before the day of constitution and consecration , which was May 6 th . Part of that business was the formation of the by-laws , which , having been adopted at a previous meetingwere confirmed previous to the

cere-, monies on the day of "constitution , " to use the correct term suggested by Crux . I ascertain that point from the dates given in the printed by-laws . This shows that , according to Bro . Hughan , at that time no irregularity was committed by admitting new memberswhether bjoining initiationCrux

, y or . says that on the day of " constitution ' " the ceremonies of passing and raising , for which no previous notice is required , may be performed , " and consequently there can be no impropriety in proposing neAV members at the same period . This answers the original question of * B * .

As it is very possible that the precautions I took in the formation of the lodge may not have been adopted in all cases , I quite concur in the propriety of the nev ? arrangement named by Bro . Hughan . My object was not to argue the question , into which Crux has entered so fully , but to ascertain the authority , which is not in the Book of Constitutions , for the first statement of > J < B * . —H . H .

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