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Masonic Archæological Institute.

not want many members to begin , m so far we are not dependent on numbers , hut the ultimate benefit to individuals Avill of course depend on their being such a body of supporters as will give a fair volume of transactions . Under all circumstances , the members will , as in all such institutions , receive a very good return for their small subscriptions .

Tours fraternally , HYDE CLARKE . 32 , St . George ' s-square , S . W ., Feb . 2-1 . TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR .

Dear Sir and Brother ,- —It Avill interest many members interested in Masonry to know whether the proposed Masonic Archaeological Institute will confine its operations and organisation to English Craft Masonry ; Scotch , Irish , Xork , Ancient and Accepted , and foreign degrees , so far as they can be legitimately dealt with Avill afford a fund of illustrative matter . Xours fraternally , I . P . M .

Royal Arch And Some Other Degrees.

ROYAL ARCH AND SOME OTHER DEGREES .

TO THE EDITOR OF TnE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I beg to note two misprints in my letter at p . 152 . Cornelius de Bruges should be Cornelius de Bruvn . The Avork is found in Netherlandish aud in French " " Nothing depends on the mission of Pritchard , " should read on the omission of Pritchard . Xours fraternall y , R . X .

Glasgow Charter.

GLASGOW CHARTER .

TO THE IDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MI 3 E 0 R . Dear Sir and Brother , —Bro . W . P . Buchan , writing in your last number , at p . 150 , is under a mistake . He suggests that I should add my name to my next communication , so as to make it more Avorthy of attention under the circumstances . It is not for

me to add my name , as my observations are simple comments , matters of opinion . Avhile it is ri ght he should give his name , as he asserts matters as facts derived from his own observation . I am so far within the due limits of the anonymous ; but there is something more . I may be an obscure manand

, my statements may meet Avith little notice on my obscure name being appended to them , or I may ' be a man having authority , and my authorit y may overbear Bro . Buchan . The readers of the Freemasons ' Magazine are , however , quite competent to judge on this controversy .

_ Bro . Buchan ' s postscripts fully justify my observations . _ The charter , according to his own account , is in Latin . The English translation is incorrect ; it contains an interpolation ; there are words in the charter not in the translation ; there is no No . 3 after Malcolm ' s name ; and he does not knoAv -whether

Malcolm is III . or IV . So far cadit qucestio ; the question falls to the ground . The English translation presented to your readers as an ori ginal charter is a forgery , as I said . The Latin charter , which

Glasgow Charter.

Bro . Buchan has now seen , we have to learn something more about before Ave can clear it from the same charge . Bro . Buchan ' s reference to King David ' s charter about qiiadraginta solidos and decern librae only suggests his own incompetency to deal Avith the question . We knew there were librce and solidi in King David ' s time ; but that has nothing to

do Avith the modern term of pounds Scots in King Malcolm ' s time As to Bro . Buchan ' s opinion about the antiquated look of the charter , I place little reliance upon that ,, for I fear from his observations Bro . Buchan has not been brought up in the Ecole des Chartes or devoted

himself to palaeography . He is no expert , or he expresses himself ill . The charter may be old and doctored , the parchment may be old , and the writing a palimpsest ; or the parchment may be neAV , and thewritingnew , and smoked up to the required age . For the present Ave shall be contented Avith the internal

evidence , which is the main thing . King Malcolm ' s charter Avould be interesting if true ; but interesting documents are not necessarily true . Those interesting Avorks , Richard of Cirencester , and the Chronicle of Ingulph , have been unluckily relegated to the limbo of forgeries , and it

ismuch to be feared that the charter of King Malcolm Avill follow thither the Dialogue with King Henry the-Vllth and other interesting Masonic documents of the last century . Meanwhile Bro . Buchan can give us further information ; and we , having discarded the

Englishtranslation and all the comments upon it , will suspend our judgments a 3 readers of the Freemasons ' Magazine as to the date of the bodily or partial forgeries in the Latin parchment . Xours fraternally , R . X .

An Earnest Proposition Forthe Further Propagation Of Tomfool Ery Among Masons.

AN EARNEST PROPOSITION FORTHE FURTHER PROPAGATION OF TOMFOOL ERY AMONG MASONS .

TO THE IDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBEOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —I notice with great regret that although such extension has been given to the chivalrous orders , Christian Masonry and Masonic-Knighthood , one grand opportunity has been lost . It is a reflection on Masonry in its present state that

no-Mason can make himself or be made a Kni ght of the Garter . I should not like to say what he can makehimself , for the list Avould be very long , and I should most likely omit something ; but this I am quite sure of , there is no Sir Knight of the Garter . Can the Masonic circle be said to be complete under such

circumstances ? Echo answers " No . " I say ' Ditto , " and propose to supply the deficiency . The Order shall be held in the usual places of Masonic resort . The number of members in each Chapter shall be limited to tAventy-four Sir Knights , or such further number as the Chapter may chose

toadmit from time to time . A preference shall be given to such houses as have a room for the performance of the imposing ceremonies , containing small boxes or compartments , which may represent the stalls of the Sir Knights , and having access to the bar parlour . Each Sir Knight

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ROYAL ARCH AND SOME OTHER DEGREES. Article 6
GLASGOW CHARTER. Article 6
AN EARNEST PROPOSITION FORTHE FURTHER PROPAGATION OF TOMFOOL ERY AMONG MASONS. Article 6
THE A. AND A. RITE IN ENGLAND. Article 8
FATHER SUFFIELD AND FREEMASONRY. Article 8
PRIORITY OF THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST. JOHN, TO THE MOTHER KILWINNING. Article 11
THE TRUE MASON. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
SCOTLAND. Article 17
IRELAND. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 18
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 18
MASONIC ASSEMBLY AT AYR, SCOTLAND. Article 19
HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE AND BRO. S. MAY. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING MARCH 7TH, 1868. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING MARCH 7TH, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Archæological Institute.

not want many members to begin , m so far we are not dependent on numbers , hut the ultimate benefit to individuals Avill of course depend on their being such a body of supporters as will give a fair volume of transactions . Under all circumstances , the members will , as in all such institutions , receive a very good return for their small subscriptions .

Tours fraternally , HYDE CLARKE . 32 , St . George ' s-square , S . W ., Feb . 2-1 . TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR .

Dear Sir and Brother ,- —It Avill interest many members interested in Masonry to know whether the proposed Masonic Archaeological Institute will confine its operations and organisation to English Craft Masonry ; Scotch , Irish , Xork , Ancient and Accepted , and foreign degrees , so far as they can be legitimately dealt with Avill afford a fund of illustrative matter . Xours fraternally , I . P . M .

Royal Arch And Some Other Degrees.

ROYAL ARCH AND SOME OTHER DEGREES .

TO THE EDITOR OF TnE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I beg to note two misprints in my letter at p . 152 . Cornelius de Bruges should be Cornelius de Bruvn . The Avork is found in Netherlandish aud in French " " Nothing depends on the mission of Pritchard , " should read on the omission of Pritchard . Xours fraternall y , R . X .

Glasgow Charter.

GLASGOW CHARTER .

TO THE IDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MI 3 E 0 R . Dear Sir and Brother , —Bro . W . P . Buchan , writing in your last number , at p . 150 , is under a mistake . He suggests that I should add my name to my next communication , so as to make it more Avorthy of attention under the circumstances . It is not for

me to add my name , as my observations are simple comments , matters of opinion . Avhile it is ri ght he should give his name , as he asserts matters as facts derived from his own observation . I am so far within the due limits of the anonymous ; but there is something more . I may be an obscure manand

, my statements may meet Avith little notice on my obscure name being appended to them , or I may ' be a man having authority , and my authorit y may overbear Bro . Buchan . The readers of the Freemasons ' Magazine are , however , quite competent to judge on this controversy .

_ Bro . Buchan ' s postscripts fully justify my observations . _ The charter , according to his own account , is in Latin . The English translation is incorrect ; it contains an interpolation ; there are words in the charter not in the translation ; there is no No . 3 after Malcolm ' s name ; and he does not knoAv -whether

Malcolm is III . or IV . So far cadit qucestio ; the question falls to the ground . The English translation presented to your readers as an ori ginal charter is a forgery , as I said . The Latin charter , which

Glasgow Charter.

Bro . Buchan has now seen , we have to learn something more about before Ave can clear it from the same charge . Bro . Buchan ' s reference to King David ' s charter about qiiadraginta solidos and decern librae only suggests his own incompetency to deal Avith the question . We knew there were librce and solidi in King David ' s time ; but that has nothing to

do Avith the modern term of pounds Scots in King Malcolm ' s time As to Bro . Buchan ' s opinion about the antiquated look of the charter , I place little reliance upon that ,, for I fear from his observations Bro . Buchan has not been brought up in the Ecole des Chartes or devoted

himself to palaeography . He is no expert , or he expresses himself ill . The charter may be old and doctored , the parchment may be old , and the writing a palimpsest ; or the parchment may be neAV , and thewritingnew , and smoked up to the required age . For the present Ave shall be contented Avith the internal

evidence , which is the main thing . King Malcolm ' s charter Avould be interesting if true ; but interesting documents are not necessarily true . Those interesting Avorks , Richard of Cirencester , and the Chronicle of Ingulph , have been unluckily relegated to the limbo of forgeries , and it

ismuch to be feared that the charter of King Malcolm Avill follow thither the Dialogue with King Henry the-Vllth and other interesting Masonic documents of the last century . Meanwhile Bro . Buchan can give us further information ; and we , having discarded the

Englishtranslation and all the comments upon it , will suspend our judgments a 3 readers of the Freemasons ' Magazine as to the date of the bodily or partial forgeries in the Latin parchment . Xours fraternally , R . X .

An Earnest Proposition Forthe Further Propagation Of Tomfool Ery Among Masons.

AN EARNEST PROPOSITION FORTHE FURTHER PROPAGATION OF TOMFOOL ERY AMONG MASONS .

TO THE IDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBEOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —I notice with great regret that although such extension has been given to the chivalrous orders , Christian Masonry and Masonic-Knighthood , one grand opportunity has been lost . It is a reflection on Masonry in its present state that

no-Mason can make himself or be made a Kni ght of the Garter . I should not like to say what he can makehimself , for the list Avould be very long , and I should most likely omit something ; but this I am quite sure of , there is no Sir Knight of the Garter . Can the Masonic circle be said to be complete under such

circumstances ? Echo answers " No . " I say ' Ditto , " and propose to supply the deficiency . The Order shall be held in the usual places of Masonic resort . The number of members in each Chapter shall be limited to tAventy-four Sir Knights , or such further number as the Chapter may chose

toadmit from time to time . A preference shall be given to such houses as have a room for the performance of the imposing ceremonies , containing small boxes or compartments , which may represent the stalls of the Sir Knights , and having access to the bar parlour . Each Sir Knight

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