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Bro. Morris And Bro. Findel.

BRO . MORRIS AND BRO . FINDEL .

I have been so closely engaged since my return from Palestine , that I have not had the time to write you . Add to this , my time has been spent in New York , ( or thousands of miles to the eastward ) , Avhere I have

not seen a copy of the MAGAZINE for five months , and you Avill understand that I Avas not dead , all that time , but speechless . Arrived at home for the holidays , one of my first and greatest enjoyments has been to read the files of the MAGAZINE .

What a new world of thought is being awakened among your correspondents . Many of them shoAY plainly that they are just opening their eyes ; others afford us the results of Ions ; and anxious reflection , of profound study of original lines of

investigation . The names of Anthony Oneal Haye , Lyon , Hughan and many others of renown are suggestive of good promise , that never fails of performance . Long may they wave to draw forth from the treasures of Masonic learning , thing-s new and old .

We have nothing of special interest doing in our forty Grand Lodges , into which the once more United States are apportioned out . All the excitable themes have died out , unless it be the " negro " question . Half our Masonic journals

are giving columns of matter in each issue , to the great question of nigritude . Perhaps you are not aware that there are negro lodges , and negro Grand Lodges , and one negro national Grand Lodge , already blessing us Avith unmingled

happiness . They are deemed clandestine by us , not because their members are black , but for the same reason your correspondent Bro . Findel ' s favorites in the United States are clandestine , that is because their warrants of authority , as lodges , are irregular .

Is that a good reason ? What would you think , if an American Grand Lod ge Avas to quarter a negro lodge upon you in London , and that lodge should warrant another one in Liverpool , and another in Edinburgh , & c , & c , and they should unite

¦ themselves into a Grand Lodge and then claim recognition from the Grand Lodge of England , and the whole fraternity ? Yet that is exactly the

condition of thenegro branch of Mi-sous hare . They are clandestine , and we are forbidden by our O . B . ( are not you ?) from associating masonically , Avith clandestine Masons . Since I have named Bro . Findel and his

American friends , I will be more explicit . He claims great merit for the preparation of a History of Freemasonry in Europe , which , accrediting the origin of the institution to some German mechanics a feAV hundred years since , ignores all the time

honoured traditions of the craft , rejects the Holy writings as part of the furniture of the lodge ; changes the O . B . to a mere pledge of honour , and abandons all the ground , for Avhich the wise and good men of modern times of our Order , have

contended since the days of A . nderson and Desaguliers . And he charges us , American Masons , with being in midnight , heathenish darkness , because we have not bought move than thirty copies of his book . Does Bro . Findel write the English

letters that appear over his signature ? if so , I must say that I never read such concerted composition in a Masonic journal before . For his own credit , I should think he has a translator who traduces him .

American readers of Bro . Findel ' s history cannot respect a Avork , Avhich shows such ignorance of their own history , and such utter disrespect to their own regulations . The constant reference to lodges and men , publicly denounced by the Grand

Lodge of New York as clandestine , would in itself condemn the work , while the few facts of American Masonic history that are clumsily thrown together , prove the utter Avant of skill , as Avell as of information . It AA ould not be difficult to point to tAventy

writers in our ranks , AVIIO can Avrite , and have written Masonic works better Avorthy the name of history than his . So much in the Avay of Roland to his Oliver . A review of his history Avas made last winter , in the New York Despatch , that does not

leave a peg for it to hang upon . Since my return I have been busily engaged distributing among the 4 , 000 good fellows who united with me in the Holy Land enterprise and which I have brought from there the specimens aud relics . ROB . MORRIS .

P . S . —I am rejoiced to see that Bro . H . B . Tristam has received his well-merited grade of LL . D ,, from the University at Edinburgh .

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MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 1
BRO. MORRIS AND BRO. FINDEL. Article 2
ON THE PROTO-ETHNIC CONDITION OF ASIA MINOR, THE KHALUBES (OHALYBES), IDÆI DACTYLI, AND THEIR RELATIONS WITH THE MYTHOLOGY OF IONIA. Article 3
Untitled Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
THE MYSTIC NUMBERS. Article 6
"CRUX" ON THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST. JOHN. Article 6
THE TRUE RELIGION OF FREEMASONRY. Article 7
HISTORICAL FREEMASONRY. Article 8
ZETLAND COMMEMORATION FUND. Article 10
THE LATE EMPEROR MAXIMILIAN. Article 11
MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 16
SCOTLAND. Article 19
IRELAND. Article 19
AUSTRALIA. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING FEBRUARY 6TH, 1869. Article 20
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Bro. Morris And Bro. Findel.

BRO . MORRIS AND BRO . FINDEL .

I have been so closely engaged since my return from Palestine , that I have not had the time to write you . Add to this , my time has been spent in New York , ( or thousands of miles to the eastward ) , Avhere I have

not seen a copy of the MAGAZINE for five months , and you Avill understand that I Avas not dead , all that time , but speechless . Arrived at home for the holidays , one of my first and greatest enjoyments has been to read the files of the MAGAZINE .

What a new world of thought is being awakened among your correspondents . Many of them shoAY plainly that they are just opening their eyes ; others afford us the results of Ions ; and anxious reflection , of profound study of original lines of

investigation . The names of Anthony Oneal Haye , Lyon , Hughan and many others of renown are suggestive of good promise , that never fails of performance . Long may they wave to draw forth from the treasures of Masonic learning , thing-s new and old .

We have nothing of special interest doing in our forty Grand Lodges , into which the once more United States are apportioned out . All the excitable themes have died out , unless it be the " negro " question . Half our Masonic journals

are giving columns of matter in each issue , to the great question of nigritude . Perhaps you are not aware that there are negro lodges , and negro Grand Lodges , and one negro national Grand Lodge , already blessing us Avith unmingled

happiness . They are deemed clandestine by us , not because their members are black , but for the same reason your correspondent Bro . Findel ' s favorites in the United States are clandestine , that is because their warrants of authority , as lodges , are irregular .

Is that a good reason ? What would you think , if an American Grand Lod ge Avas to quarter a negro lodge upon you in London , and that lodge should warrant another one in Liverpool , and another in Edinburgh , & c , & c , and they should unite

¦ themselves into a Grand Lodge and then claim recognition from the Grand Lodge of England , and the whole fraternity ? Yet that is exactly the

condition of thenegro branch of Mi-sous hare . They are clandestine , and we are forbidden by our O . B . ( are not you ?) from associating masonically , Avith clandestine Masons . Since I have named Bro . Findel and his

American friends , I will be more explicit . He claims great merit for the preparation of a History of Freemasonry in Europe , which , accrediting the origin of the institution to some German mechanics a feAV hundred years since , ignores all the time

honoured traditions of the craft , rejects the Holy writings as part of the furniture of the lodge ; changes the O . B . to a mere pledge of honour , and abandons all the ground , for Avhich the wise and good men of modern times of our Order , have

contended since the days of A . nderson and Desaguliers . And he charges us , American Masons , with being in midnight , heathenish darkness , because we have not bought move than thirty copies of his book . Does Bro . Findel write the English

letters that appear over his signature ? if so , I must say that I never read such concerted composition in a Masonic journal before . For his own credit , I should think he has a translator who traduces him .

American readers of Bro . Findel ' s history cannot respect a Avork , Avhich shows such ignorance of their own history , and such utter disrespect to their own regulations . The constant reference to lodges and men , publicly denounced by the Grand

Lodge of New York as clandestine , would in itself condemn the work , while the few facts of American Masonic history that are clumsily thrown together , prove the utter Avant of skill , as Avell as of information . It AA ould not be difficult to point to tAventy

writers in our ranks , AVIIO can Avrite , and have written Masonic works better Avorthy the name of history than his . So much in the Avay of Roland to his Oliver . A review of his history Avas made last winter , in the New York Despatch , that does not

leave a peg for it to hang upon . Since my return I have been busily engaged distributing among the 4 , 000 good fellows who united with me in the Holy Land enterprise and which I have brought from there the specimens aud relics . ROB . MORRIS .

P . S . —I am rejoiced to see that Bro . H . B . Tristam has received his well-merited grade of LL . D ,, from the University at Edinburgh .

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