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Red Cross Of Constantine.

we want . It is in this way most of the impostures in Masonry have heen attested , and a consequence of this individual bail , if it comes to no more , is that the controversy degenerates into a personal quarrel between the disputants , and the main issue is lost sight of in these personal issues . In this way the

writer before us recites the question that the rituals are alleged to be compiled by Bro . Little , as if , on the one hand , any one would declare that Bro . Little is incapable of writing the rituals , or as if they would be any the worse for his having written them , or any the better .

The questions really under discussion are very important to Masonry , and the way in which they are decided by your correspondent by the evidence of facts and documents is the only real test . If an Order and ritual stated to be ancient can be concocted

under our noses in the present day , it will be a very great reflection on the intelligence of Masons . Old traditions , though bearing the internal evidence of not being historical , become tolerable because they are old , and belong to the domain of antiquity . This is the case even with regard to Jeffrey of Monmouth ]; butthough Tennyson may gracefulladopt his

, y legends as subjects for poetry , it would not do to start a new history of Britain in the same style . It is , therefore , of great service to establish the authenticity of the Order of Constantine . This is done by the attestation of the " monarchical succession" from Lord Rancliffe to Lord Kenlis . Seventy

years is already a respectable antiquity for a private Masonic society . I would , however , beg to point out to the writer that he has not got far enough to explain a new difficulty which arises , from his having proved that the Order is a Masonic institution , and is not connected with the ehivalric Order . He has

now to explain how a Masonic Order of the epoch of Lord Rancliffe or before , limited , as he had shown , to England , can he the ancient Order founded by Constantine . This he will have no difficulty iu proving from documents . Another temporary difficulty , subject to his explanations from the documents at his disposalis

, consequent on the proof that the Red Cross is not connected with the Templar Orders ; aud that is the reason or prerogative for giving under the Red Cross the Orders of St . John , of the Holy Sepulchre , & c , which are Orders of the Holy Land . It is readily comprehended that the Templars claim

jurismay diction over the other Orders of the Holy Land ; but the case of the Knights of the Red Cross , until explained , appears to be different at the time of its first foundation at Constantinople by Constantine . There were no Knights of St . John or the Holy Sepulchre in tbe Holy Land , and at the time of its

second foundation at Constantinople hy the Byzantine Emperors these latter had not a rood of land or any jurisdiction in the Holy Land , and never exercised any jurisdiction over the Order of St . John or other Orders of the Holy Land . This objection strongbut documentary

appears ; evidence will dispose of it , as it has already of other objections , and which does not prevent me from pointing out that as yet the evidence has not been brought forward for the rituals of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre , of St . John , and of the numerous degrees recorded in pages of the Freemasons' Man a-

Red Cross Of Constantine.

eine- The conclusive evidence as to the ritual of Knight Grand Cross in 1812 only settled that ritual for some date subsequent to 1812 . The ritual is most likely a translation from some very ancient document ; but the date of the copy , though it may be 1812 , is just as likely to be 1 S 13 , 1815 , 1818 , 1822 ,

or any year in which paper with the water-mark of 1812 remained in use . After all , the ritual of " 1812 " can only be the translation of some ancient Greek ritual , and not the original ; and the original , in the lapse of ages , may have been lost or forgotten . It would be unreasonable to expect oriinals of Greek

g documents to be in English . With the present state of the numerous other rituals , their water-marks , orthography , handwriting , & c , as " Audi Alteram Partem" well says , it does not require an " expert " to settle these matters . It will be quite sufficient to give the same account of ten or a dozen only of

these rituals as is given of the one with the watermark " 1812 . " Some points may occur to other brethren ; but these are a few simple deductions from the principles laid down by " Audi Alteram Partem . " He has in a candid way offered himself , his witnesses , and his

documents before the tribunal of the readers of the Freemasons' Magazine , and he might have refused to discuss the matter at all ; but , now that he has taken this course , he will cheerfully abide by the decision of the court to which he has appealed for fair play . Imitating his example , I beg to sign this letter , Yours fraternally , PAIS PIAT .

East Lancashire.

EAST LANCASHIRE .

TO TUB EDITOR OP TUB FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND BUBONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —The Province of East Lancashire is , I believe , worked as well as any province , and I often wonder I never read any of its proceedings recorded in your valuable MAGAZINE . Surely there can he no objection . I heard of a most enthusiastic meeting recently at Oldham , but have in

vain searched your columns for a report of it . Can't you , Mr . Editor , obtain the services of a " Special Correspondent ?" Yours fraternally , A SMALL VOICE EEOII A REMOTE COENEE . P . S . —My wishes have reference to the Provincial Grand Lodge meetings .

PRESENTATION OP A TESTIHONIAI , TO BEO . DB . RICHARDSON , F . R . S . —The [ testimonial to our esteemed and highly distinguished Bro . Dr . Richardson , 2 P . M . S ., was presented by Mr . Paget , iF . Ji . S ., at a meeting of the subscribers and friends , ou Wednesday , the 20 th inst ., at Willis ' s Rooms , King-street , St . James ' s . The subscribers numbered about seven hundred ; a very large attendance of the friends and admirers of this

muchrespeated J brother . The subscription amounted to over a thousand guineas , scarcely a department of literature , science , art , or commerce being unrepresented ou the list . Bro . Dr . Richardson ' s original and valuable contributions to medical and general science aro well known , but to the general public his name is more especially identified for his important discoveries in genera . 1 and local anesthesia , and the application of the ether spray for the latter purpose . The testimonial consisted of a handsome piece of plate and a purse of 700 sovereigns . Mr . Ross , of Welbeck-street , prepared a microscope to accompany aud form part of the testimonial .

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THE RITES OF ADONIS. Article 1
MASONIC WORTHIES OF JERSEY. Article 2
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
RED CROSS OF CONSTANTINE. Article 11
EAST LANCASHIRE. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
NORTH WALES AND SHROPSHIRE. Article 15
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 18
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 18
Poetry. Article 20
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING JUNE 6TH, 1868. Article 20
Untitled Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Red Cross Of Constantine.

we want . It is in this way most of the impostures in Masonry have heen attested , and a consequence of this individual bail , if it comes to no more , is that the controversy degenerates into a personal quarrel between the disputants , and the main issue is lost sight of in these personal issues . In this way the

writer before us recites the question that the rituals are alleged to be compiled by Bro . Little , as if , on the one hand , any one would declare that Bro . Little is incapable of writing the rituals , or as if they would be any the worse for his having written them , or any the better .

The questions really under discussion are very important to Masonry , and the way in which they are decided by your correspondent by the evidence of facts and documents is the only real test . If an Order and ritual stated to be ancient can be concocted

under our noses in the present day , it will be a very great reflection on the intelligence of Masons . Old traditions , though bearing the internal evidence of not being historical , become tolerable because they are old , and belong to the domain of antiquity . This is the case even with regard to Jeffrey of Monmouth ]; butthough Tennyson may gracefulladopt his

, y legends as subjects for poetry , it would not do to start a new history of Britain in the same style . It is , therefore , of great service to establish the authenticity of the Order of Constantine . This is done by the attestation of the " monarchical succession" from Lord Rancliffe to Lord Kenlis . Seventy

years is already a respectable antiquity for a private Masonic society . I would , however , beg to point out to the writer that he has not got far enough to explain a new difficulty which arises , from his having proved that the Order is a Masonic institution , and is not connected with the ehivalric Order . He has

now to explain how a Masonic Order of the epoch of Lord Rancliffe or before , limited , as he had shown , to England , can he the ancient Order founded by Constantine . This he will have no difficulty iu proving from documents . Another temporary difficulty , subject to his explanations from the documents at his disposalis

, consequent on the proof that the Red Cross is not connected with the Templar Orders ; aud that is the reason or prerogative for giving under the Red Cross the Orders of St . John , of the Holy Sepulchre , & c , which are Orders of the Holy Land . It is readily comprehended that the Templars claim

jurismay diction over the other Orders of the Holy Land ; but the case of the Knights of the Red Cross , until explained , appears to be different at the time of its first foundation at Constantinople by Constantine . There were no Knights of St . John or the Holy Sepulchre in tbe Holy Land , and at the time of its

second foundation at Constantinople hy the Byzantine Emperors these latter had not a rood of land or any jurisdiction in the Holy Land , and never exercised any jurisdiction over the Order of St . John or other Orders of the Holy Land . This objection strongbut documentary

appears ; evidence will dispose of it , as it has already of other objections , and which does not prevent me from pointing out that as yet the evidence has not been brought forward for the rituals of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre , of St . John , and of the numerous degrees recorded in pages of the Freemasons' Man a-

Red Cross Of Constantine.

eine- The conclusive evidence as to the ritual of Knight Grand Cross in 1812 only settled that ritual for some date subsequent to 1812 . The ritual is most likely a translation from some very ancient document ; but the date of the copy , though it may be 1812 , is just as likely to be 1 S 13 , 1815 , 1818 , 1822 ,

or any year in which paper with the water-mark of 1812 remained in use . After all , the ritual of " 1812 " can only be the translation of some ancient Greek ritual , and not the original ; and the original , in the lapse of ages , may have been lost or forgotten . It would be unreasonable to expect oriinals of Greek

g documents to be in English . With the present state of the numerous other rituals , their water-marks , orthography , handwriting , & c , as " Audi Alteram Partem" well says , it does not require an " expert " to settle these matters . It will be quite sufficient to give the same account of ten or a dozen only of

these rituals as is given of the one with the watermark " 1812 . " Some points may occur to other brethren ; but these are a few simple deductions from the principles laid down by " Audi Alteram Partem . " He has in a candid way offered himself , his witnesses , and his

documents before the tribunal of the readers of the Freemasons' Magazine , and he might have refused to discuss the matter at all ; but , now that he has taken this course , he will cheerfully abide by the decision of the court to which he has appealed for fair play . Imitating his example , I beg to sign this letter , Yours fraternally , PAIS PIAT .

East Lancashire.

EAST LANCASHIRE .

TO TUB EDITOR OP TUB FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND BUBONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —The Province of East Lancashire is , I believe , worked as well as any province , and I often wonder I never read any of its proceedings recorded in your valuable MAGAZINE . Surely there can he no objection . I heard of a most enthusiastic meeting recently at Oldham , but have in

vain searched your columns for a report of it . Can't you , Mr . Editor , obtain the services of a " Special Correspondent ?" Yours fraternally , A SMALL VOICE EEOII A REMOTE COENEE . P . S . —My wishes have reference to the Provincial Grand Lodge meetings .

PRESENTATION OP A TESTIHONIAI , TO BEO . DB . RICHARDSON , F . R . S . —The [ testimonial to our esteemed and highly distinguished Bro . Dr . Richardson , 2 P . M . S ., was presented by Mr . Paget , iF . Ji . S ., at a meeting of the subscribers and friends , ou Wednesday , the 20 th inst ., at Willis ' s Rooms , King-street , St . James ' s . The subscribers numbered about seven hundred ; a very large attendance of the friends and admirers of this

muchrespeated J brother . The subscription amounted to over a thousand guineas , scarcely a department of literature , science , art , or commerce being unrepresented ou the list . Bro . Dr . Richardson ' s original and valuable contributions to medical and general science aro well known , but to the general public his name is more especially identified for his important discoveries in genera . 1 and local anesthesia , and the application of the ether spray for the latter purpose . The testimonial consisted of a handsome piece of plate and a purse of 700 sovereigns . Mr . Ross , of Welbeck-street , prepared a microscope to accompany aud form part of the testimonial .

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