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    Article CORRESPONDENCE. ← Page 2 of 2
    Article ST. PAUL'S CATHEDEAL. Page 1 of 1
    Article MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Page 1 of 1
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Correspondence.

given by a Masonic office-bearer , and I would also expect that one who is a Freemason himself would understand this , and perforin his work accordingly ; if not , he should never have accepted of such a post as a Masonic Chaplain . "Instead of ' presuming' that his hearers were

' members of the Church of England , ' he , as a Mason , was entitled to presume that many of his brethren might not be so . There mig ht have been Unitarians , Jews , or even Mahommedans present—brethren who had come to worship the Great Architect of the Universe—consequently , they would be perfectly

justified in protesting against sectarian remarks and doctrines being introduced and expounded in what should have simply been a pure and sensible . Masonic discourse . " Although I happen to be a Scottish Presbyterian , I yet consider that a UnitarianJewor Mahommedan

, , is just as well qualified to be a good and honest Freemason as any Scottish Presbyterian . More , as a Freemason , and while in a Masonic lodge , or engaged on Masonic work ,, I consider that I should do nothing to praise up and expound my own religious views , for by so doing I would be not only throwing cold water

on theirs , but also be guilty of an infringement of true Masonic courtesy . I am ready at this moment to vote for the disestablishment and disendowment of the Church of England and of tlie so-called Church of Scotland also , because I consider that the members of every church ought to support it themselves . Yet I wonder how Bro . Martyn would take it if he heard these views expounded at a Masonic meeting !

" Bro . Martyn also alludes to the Bible . Now , that is a subject for serious consideration , whether or not the Bible is the proper book to place upon the altar of a Masonic lodge ? I am not sure hut that it may yet come to be that the Book of Constitutions will lie where the Bible now does , the said Book of Constitutions containing a preamble of our Masonic

faith . I highly reverence the Bible , and I question if the altar of a Masonic lodge is the proper place for it . Freemasonry , it must be remembered , is not aud never was intended to be a religion or our reli gion . " I am , yours fraternally , " July 23 rd , 1870 . " " W . P . BUCHAN .

St. Paul's Cathedeal.

ST . PAUL'S CATHEDEAL .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I was astonished to read the reproach of your correspondent , " JE 31 , P . M ., " that the Grand Lodge did not devote its funds to the decoration of St . Paul ' s . When its proper custodians take some pains to keep the building in decent order

and conduct its services with reverence and decorum , they may , perhaps , expect pecuniary assistance from the laity . St . Paul ' s has long been a disgrace to the nation , owing to the mercenary greed and total indifference to public opinion displayed by its rulers . Our brother must remember that the funds of the Grand

Lodge are contributed for tlie relief of the deserving , and cannot he devoted to tlie assistance of lazy sinecurists , who only look to their own interests . Yours fraternally , ANOTHER P . M .

Masonic Sayings And Doings Abroad.

MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD .

From Spain we learn that on all sides the Freemasons have celebrated the Festivals by solemn meetings , followed by banquets , until last year it was impossible that such fetes could have been celebrated in Spain on account of the dread of the fanatic enemies of the fraternity .

In December last , the Grand Orient of Spain assembled to the number of thirty for the Winter Festival , and on the 24 th June last , no less than ei g hty brethren met to celebrate the Summer Fete . All the brethren present hailed , with the greatest delight , the opportunity of free communication

amongst Freemasons , and abandoned themselves to joining in the expression of fraternal sentiments . The toasts were warmly given and enthusiastically responded to .

The Lodge Faro del Progresso , at Barcelona , has decided to assume mourning at three consecutive meetings , on account of the death of Bro . d'Armand Barbei ' , in honour of the many virtues of the deceased brother .

HUNGARY . —A new lodge was recently constituted at Szegedin , through the exertions of Bro . Eeemann ,. a Mason well known in Austria and Hungary . On the 17 th April , Lodge Szechenyo was consecrated at Aracb , with Bro . Golodscheider as W . M . Both these Hungarian lodges will hold from the Grand Orient

of France . " We announced some time since , " says Le Monde Macouniaue , " the establishment of a Grand Orient in Hungary How is it that the existence of this Power lias not been notified to other Masonic powers , aud by what authority does the Grand Orient of France encroach upon the territory which should be under the sole authority of the new Grand Lodge ?"

The meetings of Lodge Humanitas take place regularly twice a month at Vienna on the first and third Tuesdays , in the hall of the Academy of Commerce . The conference of the Grand Lodgo Aux Trois Globes , held at Berlin 5 th May last , rejected the

propositions of the Lodge of Gotha . In consequence , it has adjourned the amendment concerning the initiation of non-Christians , rejected the amendment which would authorise lodges unable to send delegates to send in writing their votes upon the order of the day , and rejected the amendment which proposed admitting to the meeting of the Assembl y Masons who have not been admitted to the fourth degree .

In Arkansas , all Masonic correspondence aud reflations with the Grand Orient of France have been suspended .

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MASONIC RED CROSS ORDER AND THE IMPERIAL CONSTANTINIAN ORDER OF SAINT GEORGE. Article 1
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FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE. Article 4
TEE MASONS IN CUBA. Article 8
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 30. Article 9
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
ST. PAUL'S CATHEDEAL. Article 12
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 12
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Craft Masonry. Article 13
INDIA. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 30TH, JULY 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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given by a Masonic office-bearer , and I would also expect that one who is a Freemason himself would understand this , and perforin his work accordingly ; if not , he should never have accepted of such a post as a Masonic Chaplain . "Instead of ' presuming' that his hearers were

' members of the Church of England , ' he , as a Mason , was entitled to presume that many of his brethren might not be so . There mig ht have been Unitarians , Jews , or even Mahommedans present—brethren who had come to worship the Great Architect of the Universe—consequently , they would be perfectly

justified in protesting against sectarian remarks and doctrines being introduced and expounded in what should have simply been a pure and sensible . Masonic discourse . " Although I happen to be a Scottish Presbyterian , I yet consider that a UnitarianJewor Mahommedan

, , is just as well qualified to be a good and honest Freemason as any Scottish Presbyterian . More , as a Freemason , and while in a Masonic lodge , or engaged on Masonic work ,, I consider that I should do nothing to praise up and expound my own religious views , for by so doing I would be not only throwing cold water

on theirs , but also be guilty of an infringement of true Masonic courtesy . I am ready at this moment to vote for the disestablishment and disendowment of the Church of England and of tlie so-called Church of Scotland also , because I consider that the members of every church ought to support it themselves . Yet I wonder how Bro . Martyn would take it if he heard these views expounded at a Masonic meeting !

" Bro . Martyn also alludes to the Bible . Now , that is a subject for serious consideration , whether or not the Bible is the proper book to place upon the altar of a Masonic lodge ? I am not sure hut that it may yet come to be that the Book of Constitutions will lie where the Bible now does , the said Book of Constitutions containing a preamble of our Masonic

faith . I highly reverence the Bible , and I question if the altar of a Masonic lodge is the proper place for it . Freemasonry , it must be remembered , is not aud never was intended to be a religion or our reli gion . " I am , yours fraternally , " July 23 rd , 1870 . " " W . P . BUCHAN .

St. Paul's Cathedeal.

ST . PAUL'S CATHEDEAL .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I was astonished to read the reproach of your correspondent , " JE 31 , P . M ., " that the Grand Lodge did not devote its funds to the decoration of St . Paul ' s . When its proper custodians take some pains to keep the building in decent order

and conduct its services with reverence and decorum , they may , perhaps , expect pecuniary assistance from the laity . St . Paul ' s has long been a disgrace to the nation , owing to the mercenary greed and total indifference to public opinion displayed by its rulers . Our brother must remember that the funds of the Grand

Lodge are contributed for tlie relief of the deserving , and cannot he devoted to tlie assistance of lazy sinecurists , who only look to their own interests . Yours fraternally , ANOTHER P . M .

Masonic Sayings And Doings Abroad.

MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD .

From Spain we learn that on all sides the Freemasons have celebrated the Festivals by solemn meetings , followed by banquets , until last year it was impossible that such fetes could have been celebrated in Spain on account of the dread of the fanatic enemies of the fraternity .

In December last , the Grand Orient of Spain assembled to the number of thirty for the Winter Festival , and on the 24 th June last , no less than ei g hty brethren met to celebrate the Summer Fete . All the brethren present hailed , with the greatest delight , the opportunity of free communication

amongst Freemasons , and abandoned themselves to joining in the expression of fraternal sentiments . The toasts were warmly given and enthusiastically responded to .

The Lodge Faro del Progresso , at Barcelona , has decided to assume mourning at three consecutive meetings , on account of the death of Bro . d'Armand Barbei ' , in honour of the many virtues of the deceased brother .

HUNGARY . —A new lodge was recently constituted at Szegedin , through the exertions of Bro . Eeemann ,. a Mason well known in Austria and Hungary . On the 17 th April , Lodge Szechenyo was consecrated at Aracb , with Bro . Golodscheider as W . M . Both these Hungarian lodges will hold from the Grand Orient

of France . " We announced some time since , " says Le Monde Macouniaue , " the establishment of a Grand Orient in Hungary How is it that the existence of this Power lias not been notified to other Masonic powers , aud by what authority does the Grand Orient of France encroach upon the territory which should be under the sole authority of the new Grand Lodge ?"

The meetings of Lodge Humanitas take place regularly twice a month at Vienna on the first and third Tuesdays , in the hall of the Academy of Commerce . The conference of the Grand Lodgo Aux Trois Globes , held at Berlin 5 th May last , rejected the

propositions of the Lodge of Gotha . In consequence , it has adjourned the amendment concerning the initiation of non-Christians , rejected the amendment which would authorise lodges unable to send delegates to send in writing their votes upon the order of the day , and rejected the amendment which proposed admitting to the meeting of the Assembl y Masons who have not been admitted to the fourth degree .

In Arkansas , all Masonic correspondence aud reflations with the Grand Orient of France have been suspended .

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