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Provincial Grand Lodge Of Sussex.

PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE OF SUSSEX .

TO THE EDITOR 01 ? THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Being personally alluded to in the letter signed "Observer" which appeared in to-day's MAGAZINE , I think it right to give a flat contradiction to the many mis-statements it contains . In the first place , I believe that a thoroughly good aud truly Masonic feeling prevails throughout this province . _ I unless it be in

am not aware of any other feeling existing , the disordered mind of an " Observer , " whose observations are strangely inaccurate . The Y-W . Deputy Prov . G . M . this year , unfortunately , has been prevented by an illness of many months ( which compelled him for a time to reside abroad ) , from paying his usual visits to the lodges in this province ; it is , therefore ,

to say the least of it , ungenerous to reproach him for not having been more frequently amongst his brethren , and for availing himself of the returns annually made by the lodges , and of the information supplied by the the Provincial Grand Secretary . For myself , I am no stranger to the lodges in this provincebeing at the present time W . M . of " So . 1153

, , honorary member of No . 1034 , and subscribing member of Nos . 64 , 426 , 338 , and 390 , being also P . M . of 338 and 390 . During the last few months I havo had the pleasure of installing the 'W . Ms , of 45 , 64 , 390 , and . 1113 . I am a regular attendant at the monthly meetings of my mother lodge , and I have not deserted the Brighton Lodge of Masonic Instruction , of which I am still a member ; this lodge ,

however , is no longer " a bantling ;'' it numbers amongst its members many brethren who are well qualified to promote it success and maintain its usefulness . Lastly , I believe that the appointments to be made on Tuesday next will give great and general satisfaction ; they are to be conferred upon brethren who are all energetic and worthy Masons , who are respected btheir brethren in the provinceand deserving

y , of the honour to be conferred upon them by the Deputy Provincial Grand Master . Believe me dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , GAVIN ELLIOT POCOCK , P . G . S . B . Provincial Grand Secretary . 42 , Cannon Place , Brighton , August 24 th , 1861 .

Knights Templar.

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR .

TO THE EDITOR OI THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER . —I have no un-Masonic feeling or . prejudice against our gallant French brethren , and should be very pleased to see the genuineness of their Order of the Temple proved by unquestionable historical evidence . But if , as I believe that the French Order is our legitimate head , the children have great reason to complain of their

parent , for our 111 . Bro . W . Littaur , of the Grand Orient of Paris , whom I had the pleasure of meeting some months back at the Invicta Chapter at Woolwich , told me the French Order refused to recognise the English Knights Templar . I remain , dear Sir and Brother , yours most fraternally , M . H . SHUITLEIVORTTI .

The Watson Testimonial Fund.

THE WATSON TESTIMONIAL FUND .

TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AITO MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Do you know what is being done by the Committee of the Watson Testimonial Fund ? Week after week your pages contain an advertisement stating meetings are to be held at certain times , bub I am credibly informed they do not take place . When Grand Lodge voted the £ 200 it was hoped by many that the scheme

was in a fair way to be realized , but it appears to have died a natural death , although it is said that several of the Committee have received good round sums which they decline to pay in to the bankers . "AYhile the grass grows the steed starves , " is a threadbare proverb , but it seems very applicable to this case , and , if the brethren have received such sums as I hear spoken of , I cannot think they are- acting rightly in retaining them , for certainly they are not aiding , but , on the contrary , impeding the object in view . You have ever advocated and done good service to our

The Watson Testimonial Fund.

various Masonic Charities , and it is to you we all look for a fearless exposure when wrong is being done . In consequence of which I would respectfully urge the taking of this matter under your consideration , and beg you to tell us who are the defaulters , and when it is likely an end may be put to the matter . With all the talk there was about its necessity at the time ,

a feeling of total indifference seems to be , now , actuating the Committee , and it would have been better that it had never been taken in hand than to tantalise a worthy brother , who name has been bandied about right and leftj and who yet appears as far from benefitting by the plan as he did six months ago . Seeing your own name on the Coinmittee , I hope you will

point out the value of the old saying , that " he who gives speedily gives twice , " and remind those who retain moneys , entrusted to them for a special purpose , that they are creating distrust by their course of proceeding , and seriously in-, juring the cause they have professed to support . Tours very faithfully , PROMPTITUDE .

P . S . —Perhaps the better way would be to publish the amounts paid in against the respective names , and then the Craft would see who they were that kept subscript , tions back . [ We believe the Committee talk about closing their accounts in November . When the name of our Editor was placed on the list of the Committee , he distinctly informed the promoters of the subscription that he would be unable to take part hi the proceedings at the Meetings . ]

Masonry In America.

MASONRY IN AMERICA .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER ,- —Many of your readers must , like myself , have read ivith very much surprise the startling statement made by H . N . at page 147 of to-day ' s MAGAZINE , that " Masonry in America is , at the present time , virtually defunct" This strange assertion appears to me so utterly opposed to the great Masonic virtue , truth , and so

outrageous a libel on our American brethren , that I charitably hope the writer , if he be a Freemason , has not expressed what he meant to have done . That Masonry is nob "defunct" nor even languishing in Canada , under the new Grand Lodge , is apparent to all close observers ; nor is it " defunct" in South America . And I envy not the feelings of the man , initiated or uninitiated , who dares to brand the

two hundred thousand "brothers of the mystic tie" in the Great Republic of the United States as men who have basely perjured their souls , as they must have done if " Masonry be defunct" amongst them . If the novel assertion of H . N . have any truth in it , we must altogether alter our Masonic teaching , especially the answer to the tenth test question o the E . A . degree ; and we must admit that there is one great division of the globe over which the banner of Freemasonry

does not float . There is something ungenerous in the conduct of a portion of the British press choosing the period of the most trying times through which our cousins across the Atlantic have had to pass , for ridiculing a people , who , with all their errors , will occupy no low position in history ; but I had hoped that every brother Mason in the United Kingdom and . her colonies would have sympathized with

their brethren in the United States in their present trials ; for these are indeed , for them , " times that try men's souls . " That they havo like ourselves , many amongst them who have gone through our ceremonies without ever truly seeing the heavenly light of Masonry , I know , and the true brethren in America will doubtless regret it as much as H . N . or myself can possibly do ; but if H . N . has never heard of

noble Masonic deeds done by our brethren in every portion of the great American continent ( or , as we now ought to write , island ) , he is not " posted up" on American Masonry . We had bettor set our own houses in order before we attempt to meddle with those of our neighbours . But having been " raised to the sublime degree of a Master Mason , " I feel bound to defend the characters of absent brethren . Yours very fraternally , GEORGE MARKKAS TIVEDDELL . Stokesley , Yorkshire , August 24 th , 1861 .

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PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGES. Article 1
MASONIC CONTEMPORARIES.—No. II. Article 2
FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE. Article 3
ARCHITECTURE AND ARCHAÆOLOGY. Article 4
SUFFOLK INSTITUTE OF ARCHAÆOLOGY. Article 7
LINCOLN MINSTER. Article 8
MONUMENTAL REMAINS IN PETERBOROUGH CATHEDRAL. Article 9
LOCAL NOMENCLATURE OF NORTHAMPTONSHIRE. Article 9
GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL INTELLIGENCE. Article 10
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 12
NOTES ON LITERATURE SCIENCE AND ART. Article 13
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 14
PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE OF SUSSEX. Article 15
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 15
THE WATSON TESTIMONIAL FUND. Article 15
MASONRY IN AMERICA. Article 15
THE MASONICMIRROR. Article 16
PROVINCIAL. Article 17
Poetry. Article 19
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Provincial Grand Lodge Of Sussex.

PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE OF SUSSEX .

TO THE EDITOR 01 ? THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Being personally alluded to in the letter signed "Observer" which appeared in to-day's MAGAZINE , I think it right to give a flat contradiction to the many mis-statements it contains . In the first place , I believe that a thoroughly good aud truly Masonic feeling prevails throughout this province . _ I unless it be in

am not aware of any other feeling existing , the disordered mind of an " Observer , " whose observations are strangely inaccurate . The Y-W . Deputy Prov . G . M . this year , unfortunately , has been prevented by an illness of many months ( which compelled him for a time to reside abroad ) , from paying his usual visits to the lodges in this province ; it is , therefore ,

to say the least of it , ungenerous to reproach him for not having been more frequently amongst his brethren , and for availing himself of the returns annually made by the lodges , and of the information supplied by the the Provincial Grand Secretary . For myself , I am no stranger to the lodges in this provincebeing at the present time W . M . of " So . 1153

, , honorary member of No . 1034 , and subscribing member of Nos . 64 , 426 , 338 , and 390 , being also P . M . of 338 and 390 . During the last few months I havo had the pleasure of installing the 'W . Ms , of 45 , 64 , 390 , and . 1113 . I am a regular attendant at the monthly meetings of my mother lodge , and I have not deserted the Brighton Lodge of Masonic Instruction , of which I am still a member ; this lodge ,

however , is no longer " a bantling ;'' it numbers amongst its members many brethren who are well qualified to promote it success and maintain its usefulness . Lastly , I believe that the appointments to be made on Tuesday next will give great and general satisfaction ; they are to be conferred upon brethren who are all energetic and worthy Masons , who are respected btheir brethren in the provinceand deserving

y , of the honour to be conferred upon them by the Deputy Provincial Grand Master . Believe me dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , GAVIN ELLIOT POCOCK , P . G . S . B . Provincial Grand Secretary . 42 , Cannon Place , Brighton , August 24 th , 1861 .

Knights Templar.

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR .

TO THE EDITOR OI THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER . —I have no un-Masonic feeling or . prejudice against our gallant French brethren , and should be very pleased to see the genuineness of their Order of the Temple proved by unquestionable historical evidence . But if , as I believe that the French Order is our legitimate head , the children have great reason to complain of their

parent , for our 111 . Bro . W . Littaur , of the Grand Orient of Paris , whom I had the pleasure of meeting some months back at the Invicta Chapter at Woolwich , told me the French Order refused to recognise the English Knights Templar . I remain , dear Sir and Brother , yours most fraternally , M . H . SHUITLEIVORTTI .

The Watson Testimonial Fund.

THE WATSON TESTIMONIAL FUND .

TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AITO MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Do you know what is being done by the Committee of the Watson Testimonial Fund ? Week after week your pages contain an advertisement stating meetings are to be held at certain times , bub I am credibly informed they do not take place . When Grand Lodge voted the £ 200 it was hoped by many that the scheme

was in a fair way to be realized , but it appears to have died a natural death , although it is said that several of the Committee have received good round sums which they decline to pay in to the bankers . "AYhile the grass grows the steed starves , " is a threadbare proverb , but it seems very applicable to this case , and , if the brethren have received such sums as I hear spoken of , I cannot think they are- acting rightly in retaining them , for certainly they are not aiding , but , on the contrary , impeding the object in view . You have ever advocated and done good service to our

The Watson Testimonial Fund.

various Masonic Charities , and it is to you we all look for a fearless exposure when wrong is being done . In consequence of which I would respectfully urge the taking of this matter under your consideration , and beg you to tell us who are the defaulters , and when it is likely an end may be put to the matter . With all the talk there was about its necessity at the time ,

a feeling of total indifference seems to be , now , actuating the Committee , and it would have been better that it had never been taken in hand than to tantalise a worthy brother , who name has been bandied about right and leftj and who yet appears as far from benefitting by the plan as he did six months ago . Seeing your own name on the Coinmittee , I hope you will

point out the value of the old saying , that " he who gives speedily gives twice , " and remind those who retain moneys , entrusted to them for a special purpose , that they are creating distrust by their course of proceeding , and seriously in-, juring the cause they have professed to support . Tours very faithfully , PROMPTITUDE .

P . S . —Perhaps the better way would be to publish the amounts paid in against the respective names , and then the Craft would see who they were that kept subscript , tions back . [ We believe the Committee talk about closing their accounts in November . When the name of our Editor was placed on the list of the Committee , he distinctly informed the promoters of the subscription that he would be unable to take part hi the proceedings at the Meetings . ]

Masonry In America.

MASONRY IN AMERICA .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER ,- —Many of your readers must , like myself , have read ivith very much surprise the startling statement made by H . N . at page 147 of to-day ' s MAGAZINE , that " Masonry in America is , at the present time , virtually defunct" This strange assertion appears to me so utterly opposed to the great Masonic virtue , truth , and so

outrageous a libel on our American brethren , that I charitably hope the writer , if he be a Freemason , has not expressed what he meant to have done . That Masonry is nob "defunct" nor even languishing in Canada , under the new Grand Lodge , is apparent to all close observers ; nor is it " defunct" in South America . And I envy not the feelings of the man , initiated or uninitiated , who dares to brand the

two hundred thousand "brothers of the mystic tie" in the Great Republic of the United States as men who have basely perjured their souls , as they must have done if " Masonry be defunct" amongst them . If the novel assertion of H . N . have any truth in it , we must altogether alter our Masonic teaching , especially the answer to the tenth test question o the E . A . degree ; and we must admit that there is one great division of the globe over which the banner of Freemasonry

does not float . There is something ungenerous in the conduct of a portion of the British press choosing the period of the most trying times through which our cousins across the Atlantic have had to pass , for ridiculing a people , who , with all their errors , will occupy no low position in history ; but I had hoped that every brother Mason in the United Kingdom and . her colonies would have sympathized with

their brethren in the United States in their present trials ; for these are indeed , for them , " times that try men's souls . " That they havo like ourselves , many amongst them who have gone through our ceremonies without ever truly seeing the heavenly light of Masonry , I know , and the true brethren in America will doubtless regret it as much as H . N . or myself can possibly do ; but if H . N . has never heard of

noble Masonic deeds done by our brethren in every portion of the great American continent ( or , as we now ought to write , island ) , he is not " posted up" on American Masonry . We had bettor set our own houses in order before we attempt to meddle with those of our neighbours . But having been " raised to the sublime degree of a Master Mason , " I feel bound to defend the characters of absent brethren . Yours very fraternally , GEORGE MARKKAS TIVEDDELL . Stokesley , Yorkshire , August 24 th , 1861 .

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