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® Ij £ Jltasmtk % tav . THURSDAY , ] feg | g || i NOV . J , 1888 .

Edited by W . BRO . JAMES STEVENS , P . M ., P . Z ., & c , & c .

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Published every Thursday Morning-, price ONE PENNY , and may be had from all Newsagents through the Publishers . 123 to 125 , Fleet Street , E . G . Subscribers to THE MASONIC STAB residing in London and the Suburbs will receive their copies by the first post on THUKSDAY M ORNING . Copies for Country Subscribers will be forwarded by the NIGHT Mail on "Wednesday .

TERMS , including postage , payable in advance : — United Kingdom and Countries comprised Places not in ( Jeneral comprised in India , Postal Union . Postal Union . via lirindisi .

Twelve Months ... 6 s . 6 d . ... 8 s . 8 d . ... 10 s . IQd . Six Months 3 s . 4 d . ... 4 s . 6 d . . . . 5 s . 6 d . Three Months ... 1 s . 9 d . ... 2 s . 4 d . ... 3 s . Od . Post Office Orders , payable at the General Post Office , London , E . G ., to the Printers , Messrs . ADAMS BEOS ., 59 , Moor Lane , London , E . G . Postal Orders and Cheques should be crossed

"Alliance Bnnk , " and all communications concerning Subscriptions and Advertisements should be addressed to them . All other communications , letters , ifcc , to be addressed " Editor of THE MASONIC STAB , 50 , Moor Lane , Fore Street , London , E . G . " Publishing Offices : 123 to 125 , FLEET STREET , E . G .

Original Correspondence.

Original Correspondence .

* e * We do not hold ourselves responsible for the opinions expressed by om Correspondents .

To the Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , In your impression of the 11 th inst . you publish a letter of mine which draws attention to an item of Grand Lodge expenditure for " writing' warrants . " In your next number you have , under your Trestle Board , two paragraphs in connection with the subject .

Will you be so kind as to let me know what you mean when you say— " It has been intimated to us that the staff already consider that they have more on their hands than they can comfort ally get through , " kc . ( good word " comfortably " ) . ' Who has conveyed such an " intimation " . ' I am really at a loss to understand what is intended to be conveyed by the word "comfortably '' It is a

most elastic and vague expression—either there are not enough employes for the office work , or there are . What has " comfortably " to do with the matter . ' The main question remains exactly as I stated—that to pay a law stationer £ 16 3 s . for a quarter ' s writing of patents and warrants , in face of salaries returned as about . C 2 , 600 per annum , is wasteful and ridiculous excess . Perhaps j-ou may be able to give us some tangible information on the subject .

While I am addressing you , I should like to draw attention to another item in the same report , i . e ., 7 th March , 1888 , page 357—"Warrington & Co ., for certificate forms and mounts , one quarter , £ 73 8 s . 3 d . " What are the mounts referred to ? and what proportion do they bear to the whole item '! Will anyone , I wonder , accord this information ? Faithfully and fraternally yours , AGERE NO ' LOQUI .

[ % * As we have undertaken to place our - pages at the disposal of tlw brethren generally , we do not refuse space for your letter ; id the same time , ice think you should i > ut your questions to those who CAN give the required replies , and not look for them at second-hand from vs . We have no greater power than yourself to obtain information which certainly could , although it might not , be denied to any enquirer . —Ev . M . S . l

M . M . ' s APRON . To the Editor ofTnE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , My apron , from constant use , more than age , has become very much soiled , and , in my opinion , does not look very creditable when

m Lodge , particularly when amongst bright new clothing - . Would you recommend me to have it cleaned , or to let the " glory " of the result of frequent use remain , unsightly as it may be to the delicate eye ? Yours fraternally , October 2 Gth , 1888 . ANXIOUS-TO-BE-CORRECT .

% A good " working " mason should rather be proud of his old apron , as a proof that he is no drone , than seek to change it for a mere butterflii garment . —ED . M . S .

To tlie Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , Freemasonry does not appear to be flourishing in the northwestern districts of London . I have examined your lists in vain for a Lodge of Instruction convenient to West Hampstead , Finchley

Original Correspondence.

Road , Swiss Cottage , or St . John ' s Wood . Can you give me any information on the subject . ' If any steps are taken towards establishing a Lodge of Instruction in one of these districts , I should be pleased to render assistance . Fraternally yours . October 26 th , 1888 . A JUNIOR WARDEN .

MASONIC CHARITY ASSOCIATIONS . To the Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER . In reply to Junior Warden and Bro . Bcavis . P . M .. relative to

recognising the services of secretaries of above , there is already a law in each of our institutions applicable to their case , viz ., " votes allowed on amounts collected . " In the Girls' Institution it is law No . 20 , but not having the Boys' or Benevolent Lists handy , I cannot quote the number in their case . Fraternally yours , II . W . SMITH-PARSONS , P . M . and Treas ., 804 , Oct . 26 th , 1888 . Sec . Carnarvon Lodge Charity Association , No . 3 .

To the Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , "Junior Warden" and "Bro . Past Master Bcavis , " in their laudable desire to increase and extend the funds of Benevolent Associations connected with Lodges , very reasonably suggest that the secretaries of such associations should have complimentary

votes given them . ior the gratuitous services , which entail upon them considerable time , trouble and personal expense . With regard to the latter , it is unreasonable to expect the secretary to be at a monetary loss ; but there are deductions made in the collections , . and these , I presume , cover expenses . It is only right that deductions should be made for necessary expenses .

I hope , however , that no attempt will be made to pay brethren for such services ; to do so would not enhance the beneficial objects and characteristics of the craft , and I venture to think that , in all lodges , brethren will be found ready to act as secretaries without payment . Bro . Beavis very properly refers to the large sums paid to the

collector of one of the charitable institutions , and appears to have very just grounds of exception to the manner his reasonable suggestions were met by the committee of one at least of those institutions . How far report is true as to the extravagant manner those institutions are managed , I , as a humble member of the craft , cannot tell , but earnestly hope that we shall have a little more

light and information upon the subject ; at the present time , there is a strong feeling that is calculated to prevent subscriptions being given . It is felt that the money subscribed for the benefit of poorer brethren or their children does not fully reach the objects for which it was intended , and that a very large amount , something over 30 per cent ., is expended in the management of the charity institutions .

If such is the case , then the sooner there is some new blood infused into the committees the better for those institutions , and probably for Freemasonry in general The system in force for the collection of funds in th ; various lodges , admirable in its w . ay , still requires , like the management of

the institutions , thoroughly overhauling : a very much better system might be adopted , but that the present . system has done much good , is . in evident fact , and probably no one has worked harder to effect its object than Bro . Beavis , whose untiring energy deserves the best thanks of the craft . —Yours faithfull y , Oct . 30 th , 1888 . W . W . PARKINSON ( 870 ) .

Answers To Correspondents.

Answers to Correspondents .

R . B . E ., SILURIAN . -See our tabulated lint for redemption of our promise last week . J . C , TORQUAY . —WO have scut your letter to "Templar , " from whom vou will probably have heard direct . LODOE OFFICERS . — "We thought we had made the matter quite plain by our last week ' s paragraph and advertisement . Copies in paper covers , sixpence ; post free , sevenpence . In boards , one shilling , post free . Tho Pitter are , of course , the most suitable for presentation by ; i W . M . to the brethren he appoints to ' office .

A . M . W ., P . A . G . P ., N . & E . YORKS . — "Wo have , as you see , been compelled to shorten the report you kindly sent us , much other interesting notices being crowded out .

PRESS EXCHANGES AND BOOKS RECEIVED .

Masonic Calendars and Directories for Surrey , East Lancashire . Oxfordshire , Cornwall , Hertfordshire , Middlesex , Somersetshire , Leicest . rshire and Rutland , and Hampshire and Isle of Wight ; Masonic lleeord of Western India ; History of Lodge Sincerity . No . 17-4 ; _ Report of Proceedings of Provincial Grand Lodge of Lincolnshire ; The lifeboat Journal for November .

THE STAR CHAPTER OP INSTRUCTION—NO . 1275 . —On Friday , 2 Cth ult ., at the Stirling Castle , Church Street . C ' amberwell . Present : Comps . F . Hilton . P . Z .. 1275 , Preceptor ; J . L . Moore , H ., 16 !) , M . E . Z . ; Templeman , II ., 133 !) , II . ; Wingham , 25 . J .: C . Stone , S . N ., 1275 , S . E . ; C . Woods , 2 nd A . S . elect , 1275 , S . N . ' ; W . Briant , 132 !

) , P . S . ; T . Grummant , P . Z ., 1275 ; J . Addington , M . E . Z . elect , 1275 , and Gallaway . The ceremony of exaltation was rehearsed ! Comp . Grummant personating candidate . Comp . Templeman - was elected M . E . Z . for the next meeting . Votes of thanks were accorded Comps . Te . nplcman and Wingh-im . for their working .

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PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE OF MARK MASTER MASONS OF WEST YORKSHIRE. Article 3
We are requested to notify that :- Article 3
OUR TRESTLE BOARD Article 4
Reports of Lodge & Chapter Meetings. Article 5
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Metropolitan and Provincial Lodge and Chapter Meetings. Article 8
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Ar00704

® Ij £ Jltasmtk % tav . THURSDAY , ] feg | g || i NOV . J , 1888 .

Edited by W . BRO . JAMES STEVENS , P . M ., P . Z ., & c , & c .

Ar00700

Published every Thursday Morning-, price ONE PENNY , and may be had from all Newsagents through the Publishers . 123 to 125 , Fleet Street , E . G . Subscribers to THE MASONIC STAB residing in London and the Suburbs will receive their copies by the first post on THUKSDAY M ORNING . Copies for Country Subscribers will be forwarded by the NIGHT Mail on "Wednesday .

TERMS , including postage , payable in advance : — United Kingdom and Countries comprised Places not in ( Jeneral comprised in India , Postal Union . Postal Union . via lirindisi .

Twelve Months ... 6 s . 6 d . ... 8 s . 8 d . ... 10 s . IQd . Six Months 3 s . 4 d . ... 4 s . 6 d . . . . 5 s . 6 d . Three Months ... 1 s . 9 d . ... 2 s . 4 d . ... 3 s . Od . Post Office Orders , payable at the General Post Office , London , E . G ., to the Printers , Messrs . ADAMS BEOS ., 59 , Moor Lane , London , E . G . Postal Orders and Cheques should be crossed

"Alliance Bnnk , " and all communications concerning Subscriptions and Advertisements should be addressed to them . All other communications , letters , ifcc , to be addressed " Editor of THE MASONIC STAB , 50 , Moor Lane , Fore Street , London , E . G . " Publishing Offices : 123 to 125 , FLEET STREET , E . G .

Original Correspondence.

Original Correspondence .

* e * We do not hold ourselves responsible for the opinions expressed by om Correspondents .

To the Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , In your impression of the 11 th inst . you publish a letter of mine which draws attention to an item of Grand Lodge expenditure for " writing' warrants . " In your next number you have , under your Trestle Board , two paragraphs in connection with the subject .

Will you be so kind as to let me know what you mean when you say— " It has been intimated to us that the staff already consider that they have more on their hands than they can comfort ally get through , " kc . ( good word " comfortably " ) . ' Who has conveyed such an " intimation " . ' I am really at a loss to understand what is intended to be conveyed by the word "comfortably '' It is a

most elastic and vague expression—either there are not enough employes for the office work , or there are . What has " comfortably " to do with the matter . ' The main question remains exactly as I stated—that to pay a law stationer £ 16 3 s . for a quarter ' s writing of patents and warrants , in face of salaries returned as about . C 2 , 600 per annum , is wasteful and ridiculous excess . Perhaps j-ou may be able to give us some tangible information on the subject .

While I am addressing you , I should like to draw attention to another item in the same report , i . e ., 7 th March , 1888 , page 357—"Warrington & Co ., for certificate forms and mounts , one quarter , £ 73 8 s . 3 d . " What are the mounts referred to ? and what proportion do they bear to the whole item '! Will anyone , I wonder , accord this information ? Faithfully and fraternally yours , AGERE NO ' LOQUI .

[ % * As we have undertaken to place our - pages at the disposal of tlw brethren generally , we do not refuse space for your letter ; id the same time , ice think you should i > ut your questions to those who CAN give the required replies , and not look for them at second-hand from vs . We have no greater power than yourself to obtain information which certainly could , although it might not , be denied to any enquirer . —Ev . M . S . l

M . M . ' s APRON . To the Editor ofTnE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , My apron , from constant use , more than age , has become very much soiled , and , in my opinion , does not look very creditable when

m Lodge , particularly when amongst bright new clothing - . Would you recommend me to have it cleaned , or to let the " glory " of the result of frequent use remain , unsightly as it may be to the delicate eye ? Yours fraternally , October 2 Gth , 1888 . ANXIOUS-TO-BE-CORRECT .

% A good " working " mason should rather be proud of his old apron , as a proof that he is no drone , than seek to change it for a mere butterflii garment . —ED . M . S .

To tlie Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , Freemasonry does not appear to be flourishing in the northwestern districts of London . I have examined your lists in vain for a Lodge of Instruction convenient to West Hampstead , Finchley

Original Correspondence.

Road , Swiss Cottage , or St . John ' s Wood . Can you give me any information on the subject . ' If any steps are taken towards establishing a Lodge of Instruction in one of these districts , I should be pleased to render assistance . Fraternally yours . October 26 th , 1888 . A JUNIOR WARDEN .

MASONIC CHARITY ASSOCIATIONS . To the Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER . In reply to Junior Warden and Bro . Bcavis . P . M .. relative to

recognising the services of secretaries of above , there is already a law in each of our institutions applicable to their case , viz ., " votes allowed on amounts collected . " In the Girls' Institution it is law No . 20 , but not having the Boys' or Benevolent Lists handy , I cannot quote the number in their case . Fraternally yours , II . W . SMITH-PARSONS , P . M . and Treas ., 804 , Oct . 26 th , 1888 . Sec . Carnarvon Lodge Charity Association , No . 3 .

To the Editor of THE MASONIC STAR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , "Junior Warden" and "Bro . Past Master Bcavis , " in their laudable desire to increase and extend the funds of Benevolent Associations connected with Lodges , very reasonably suggest that the secretaries of such associations should have complimentary

votes given them . ior the gratuitous services , which entail upon them considerable time , trouble and personal expense . With regard to the latter , it is unreasonable to expect the secretary to be at a monetary loss ; but there are deductions made in the collections , . and these , I presume , cover expenses . It is only right that deductions should be made for necessary expenses .

I hope , however , that no attempt will be made to pay brethren for such services ; to do so would not enhance the beneficial objects and characteristics of the craft , and I venture to think that , in all lodges , brethren will be found ready to act as secretaries without payment . Bro . Beavis very properly refers to the large sums paid to the

collector of one of the charitable institutions , and appears to have very just grounds of exception to the manner his reasonable suggestions were met by the committee of one at least of those institutions . How far report is true as to the extravagant manner those institutions are managed , I , as a humble member of the craft , cannot tell , but earnestly hope that we shall have a little more

light and information upon the subject ; at the present time , there is a strong feeling that is calculated to prevent subscriptions being given . It is felt that the money subscribed for the benefit of poorer brethren or their children does not fully reach the objects for which it was intended , and that a very large amount , something over 30 per cent ., is expended in the management of the charity institutions .

If such is the case , then the sooner there is some new blood infused into the committees the better for those institutions , and probably for Freemasonry in general The system in force for the collection of funds in th ; various lodges , admirable in its w . ay , still requires , like the management of

the institutions , thoroughly overhauling : a very much better system might be adopted , but that the present . system has done much good , is . in evident fact , and probably no one has worked harder to effect its object than Bro . Beavis , whose untiring energy deserves the best thanks of the craft . —Yours faithfull y , Oct . 30 th , 1888 . W . W . PARKINSON ( 870 ) .

Answers To Correspondents.

Answers to Correspondents .

R . B . E ., SILURIAN . -See our tabulated lint for redemption of our promise last week . J . C , TORQUAY . —WO have scut your letter to "Templar , " from whom vou will probably have heard direct . LODOE OFFICERS . — "We thought we had made the matter quite plain by our last week ' s paragraph and advertisement . Copies in paper covers , sixpence ; post free , sevenpence . In boards , one shilling , post free . Tho Pitter are , of course , the most suitable for presentation by ; i W . M . to the brethren he appoints to ' office .

A . M . W ., P . A . G . P ., N . & E . YORKS . — "Wo have , as you see , been compelled to shorten the report you kindly sent us , much other interesting notices being crowded out .

PRESS EXCHANGES AND BOOKS RECEIVED .

Masonic Calendars and Directories for Surrey , East Lancashire . Oxfordshire , Cornwall , Hertfordshire , Middlesex , Somersetshire , Leicest . rshire and Rutland , and Hampshire and Isle of Wight ; Masonic lleeord of Western India ; History of Lodge Sincerity . No . 17-4 ; _ Report of Proceedings of Provincial Grand Lodge of Lincolnshire ; The lifeboat Journal for November .

THE STAR CHAPTER OP INSTRUCTION—NO . 1275 . —On Friday , 2 Cth ult ., at the Stirling Castle , Church Street . C ' amberwell . Present : Comps . F . Hilton . P . Z .. 1275 , Preceptor ; J . L . Moore , H ., 16 !) , M . E . Z . ; Templeman , II ., 133 !) , II . ; Wingham , 25 . J .: C . Stone , S . N ., 1275 , S . E . ; C . Woods , 2 nd A . S . elect , 1275 , S . N . ' ; W . Briant , 132 !

) , P . S . ; T . Grummant , P . Z ., 1275 ; J . Addington , M . E . Z . elect , 1275 , and Gallaway . The ceremony of exaltation was rehearsed ! Comp . Grummant personating candidate . Comp . Templeman - was elected M . E . Z . for the next meeting . Votes of thanks were accorded Comps . Te . nplcman and Wingh-im . for their working .

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