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House Of Commons.
corn to France , the Alien Bill , and the correspondence of Lord Grenville and M . Chauvelin were tantamount to a declaration of war , and that Ministers had since lost every favourable opportunity of making peace . As a t--st ot that capacity , he said , that they had gone to war to save Holland , and Holland was lost . They had made war for the restoration of Monaichv , and had been compelled to treat ivjih . the very authors of the death of the King . Thev had threatened to march to Paris ; and now were afraid of the safety of this kingdom . Th-.-y had announced the ruin of the French financesand had completed the ruin of our
, own . They had ex ( ended the excise laws ; abridged the ubery of the press ; tongue-tied the people ; and disorganized the navy . Messrs . Curw-. n , . leff .-rvs , Stmt , and M . A . Taylor , supported the motion . Messrs . Bootle , Brandling , . 1 . H . Brown , Pierrepoint , Burden , Dent , Ellis'on , Sir Gilbert Heathcote , Aldeiman Lushingtou , and Mr . Atnvati , opposed it . Ihe House divided on the question . On a division the numbers were---Ayes , 59 ™ Noes , 142 .
REPEAL OF THE TIIEASOK AN'D SEDITION BILLS . Tuesday 23 . Mr . Fox rose to make his promised motion on the Treason and Sedition ' Bills . Of the Treason Bill , called Lord Greiiville ' s , he should only notice two leading features . First , its extending the treason 1- ws , which our wise ancestors were anxious to circumscribe : and , secondly , Ihe extraordinary power it gave to Judges in case of a second convicti n for a libel . If st'ch a law had existed -a century ago , the great Locke 1 . lig ht have been sent to Bouny Hay ; and , if it had been enae ' edat the beguiling ofthe present reign , Mr .
Wilkes , an ornament of the literary world , and active magistrate , and now a stanch supporler of prerogative , would have been transported upon his second conviction . It was said that a law equally barbarous existed 111 Scotland ; but after a full consideration of the subjict ,. he was convinced that this was not the law of Scotland , and he trusted that those who had , without due sanction of the laws , inflicted punishments equivalent to death for the general crime of sedition , would one day meet with a just retr bution . After lamenting the fate of Joseph Geraldwhose had made him fall victim to sentence of this sort
, sensibility a a , Mr . Fox adverted to the ' sfcond bill introduced by Mr . Pitt . This Bill , he asserted , had thrown impediments in the way of petitioning , and had increased the ¦ power of Magistrates , who neter before had been so-ready to refuse to convoke public meetings . One slier . if had refused to call a meeting ' became be -ivas going to town ;'—and another , ' because he -.-.-as afraid of disturbing the peace cf We country ! ' - After pointing out tlie mischiefs that app . arcd fo have resulted from the Convention Bill in Ireland , he observed , that there were times when it was necessary to
enlarge , and not to abridge , the liberties of the people . These times required an unusual union of minds , and the utmost efforts of our strength . Liberty , said he , is order—Liberty is strength . He concluded by moving for leave to bringlin a J 3 ill for the immediate ivp .-al of the acts in question . Serjeant Adair defended the Bills ; ancl said that the state of the country was even more alarming than when they were passed : and Major Eli ' ord said , that but for such measures the country might have been one scene of murder and devastation . Sir R . C . Glynn was of the same opinion , and so were Mr . Pierrepoint , Lord Morpeth , Mr . Elliston , and Mr . Cliolmotideley . After which the House divided —For it , 52—against it , 260—Majority , 20 S .
PAY OI' THE ARMY . Wednesday 24 . The House having formed itself into a Committee of Supply , The Secretary at War , after a preamble of some length , said , that at present he should only trouble the Committee with the pay and allowance of the privates and non-commissioned officers , although estimates had been prepared relative to an increase of pay to subaltern officers . Tlie foot soldier , at present , received in pay and allowances eleven-pence three-farthing -, a day ; viz . six-pence per day subsistence two-pence-fart ' iing for What was called the consolidated
almoney ; lowance ; two allowances for bread and meat , computed at one-penny per day each , and one-peiiiiy-lialfpenny per day beer money . His present propositn . 11 was to give ihe solilier , instead o ! all this , except the last allowance , one shilling per day ; so that , with the beer money , he would receive in all a daily pay of thirteeii-pence- halfpenny . It was also intended 10 add two-pence-halfpenny per
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House Of Commons.
corn to France , the Alien Bill , and the correspondence of Lord Grenville and M . Chauvelin were tantamount to a declaration of war , and that Ministers had since lost every favourable opportunity of making peace . As a t--st ot that capacity , he said , that they had gone to war to save Holland , and Holland was lost . They had made war for the restoration of Monaichv , and had been compelled to treat ivjih . the very authors of the death of the King . Thev had threatened to march to Paris ; and now were afraid of the safety of this kingdom . Th-.-y had announced the ruin of the French financesand had completed the ruin of our
, own . They had ex ( ended the excise laws ; abridged the ubery of the press ; tongue-tied the people ; and disorganized the navy . Messrs . Curw-. n , . leff .-rvs , Stmt , and M . A . Taylor , supported the motion . Messrs . Bootle , Brandling , . 1 . H . Brown , Pierrepoint , Burden , Dent , Ellis'on , Sir Gilbert Heathcote , Aldeiman Lushingtou , and Mr . Atnvati , opposed it . Ihe House divided on the question . On a division the numbers were---Ayes , 59 ™ Noes , 142 .
REPEAL OF THE TIIEASOK AN'D SEDITION BILLS . Tuesday 23 . Mr . Fox rose to make his promised motion on the Treason and Sedition ' Bills . Of the Treason Bill , called Lord Greiiville ' s , he should only notice two leading features . First , its extending the treason 1- ws , which our wise ancestors were anxious to circumscribe : and , secondly , Ihe extraordinary power it gave to Judges in case of a second convicti n for a libel . If st'ch a law had existed -a century ago , the great Locke 1 . lig ht have been sent to Bouny Hay ; and , if it had been enae ' edat the beguiling ofthe present reign , Mr .
Wilkes , an ornament of the literary world , and active magistrate , and now a stanch supporler of prerogative , would have been transported upon his second conviction . It was said that a law equally barbarous existed 111 Scotland ; but after a full consideration of the subjict ,. he was convinced that this was not the law of Scotland , and he trusted that those who had , without due sanction of the laws , inflicted punishments equivalent to death for the general crime of sedition , would one day meet with a just retr bution . After lamenting the fate of Joseph Geraldwhose had made him fall victim to sentence of this sort
, sensibility a a , Mr . Fox adverted to the ' sfcond bill introduced by Mr . Pitt . This Bill , he asserted , had thrown impediments in the way of petitioning , and had increased the ¦ power of Magistrates , who neter before had been so-ready to refuse to convoke public meetings . One slier . if had refused to call a meeting ' became be -ivas going to town ;'—and another , ' because he -.-.-as afraid of disturbing the peace cf We country ! ' - After pointing out tlie mischiefs that app . arcd fo have resulted from the Convention Bill in Ireland , he observed , that there were times when it was necessary to
enlarge , and not to abridge , the liberties of the people . These times required an unusual union of minds , and the utmost efforts of our strength . Liberty , said he , is order—Liberty is strength . He concluded by moving for leave to bringlin a J 3 ill for the immediate ivp .-al of the acts in question . Serjeant Adair defended the Bills ; ancl said that the state of the country was even more alarming than when they were passed : and Major Eli ' ord said , that but for such measures the country might have been one scene of murder and devastation . Sir R . C . Glynn was of the same opinion , and so were Mr . Pierrepoint , Lord Morpeth , Mr . Elliston , and Mr . Cliolmotideley . After which the House divided —For it , 52—against it , 260—Majority , 20 S .
PAY OI' THE ARMY . Wednesday 24 . The House having formed itself into a Committee of Supply , The Secretary at War , after a preamble of some length , said , that at present he should only trouble the Committee with the pay and allowance of the privates and non-commissioned officers , although estimates had been prepared relative to an increase of pay to subaltern officers . Tlie foot soldier , at present , received in pay and allowances eleven-pence three-farthing -, a day ; viz . six-pence per day subsistence two-pence-fart ' iing for What was called the consolidated
almoney ; lowance ; two allowances for bread and meat , computed at one-penny per day each , and one-peiiiiy-lialfpenny per day beer money . His present propositn . 11 was to give ihe solilier , instead o ! all this , except the last allowance , one shilling per day ; so that , with the beer money , he would receive in all a daily pay of thirteeii-pence- halfpenny . It was also intended 10 add two-pence-halfpenny per