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Grand Lodge Of Massachusetts.

ducted him to his seat in the Lodge , when the result of the flection was declared and acknowledged . Bro . Solon W . Stevens was elected Grand Senior Warden by 417 votes out of 432 , and Bro . Henry G . Fay Grand Junior Warden by 280 out of 289 . Grand Lodge continued the

appointments made by the Grand Master as regards the offices of Treasurer and Recording Secretary , and proceeded to the election of the other Officers . By-Laws , for approval , Avere presented from several Lodges , eonimuniotions read , and other matters of local interest disposed of ; after which

Grand Lodge was closed until the 27 th December , when tho usual Installation meeting was held and the Feast of St . John celebrated . The Appendix contains reports of

D . D . G . Masters , abstracts of returns of Lodges , Lodges in Masonic Districts , List of Lodges and Secretaries , Past Officers and Permanent Members , and Organization of the Grand Lodge for 1879 .

The Schismatical Grand Lodge Of New South Wales.

THE SCHISMATICAL GRAND LODGE OF NEW SOUTH WALES .

SHORT time since wc wrote an article on this - £ * - mushroom Grand Lodge of Freemasons latel y declared to have been established in New South Wales b y dissentient brethren of the Constitutions alread y working under regular Governments in that Colony . A . late nnmber of the AnalmUtin , Frcrwaxtm contains abundant

information , fully corroborating the views we have stated , nnd justifying our condemnation of those who had set up this schismatic Grand Lodge . We learn from our contemporary that while the representative Grand Lodges of England , Scotland , and Ireland have , or had , on their roll

forty-two , twenty-three , and six Lodges respectively ; even the supporters of the schismatic Grand Lodge only claim for it some twelve or sixteen Lodges , ami that while the former muster among them several thousand brethren , the latter arc about two hundred , or , at all events , within three

hnndred strong . Three of the Irish Lodges havo seceded , oi rather two , for the Master of one of the three remains loyal , and still retains the warrant granted hy his Grand Lodge . The Grand Lodge of England has refused to recognise the self-constituted schismatic bnd y , I hid , of Scotland has suspended the ringlcfidcrs of I he movement and the

contumacious , while that of Ireland has called upon the dissentient Lodges and members to pay their dues , which have remained unpaid for years . Notwithstanding these facts , which they are challenged Io contradict , if they can , the schismatics have impudently declared themselves to be a

majority ot the Ircecnmons in the Colony . But though thoy have applied for recognition to several of the Grand Lodges of the United States , they have been courteousl y but firml y cold-shouldered . They have shifted an organ of their own , which is distinguished by its scurrilous abuse

of Dr . Sedgwick , Prov . G . Master Scottish Constitution and other leading members of ( lie legally-constituted brotherhood . But one other matter remains to be recorded , which is about as astounding a piece of impudence as wo have overheard of . It is announced from Tarbolton—so says

our contemporary—that " the Grand Lodgo of New South Wales having been duly erected , the functions of the various Provincial Grand Lodges hitherto existing have ceased ; and as Brothers Sedgwick and Higstrini " ( P . G . M . aud P . G

Secretary respectively , under the Scottish Constitutions ) " are not Officers of the Grand Lodge , they have no Masonic authorit y whatever iu New South Wales . " Let these mushroom schismatics bear in mind the fate of tho frog in the fable , which tried to swell itself to the dimensions of an ox , and—burst .

A Grand Chapter lor Holy Royal Arch Chapter and Mark Masons will shortly he inaugurated for Jamaica . The ordinary meetings of the Pluenix Lodge , Port Royal , Jamaica , are now held on the first Tuesday of each mouth ' instead of the first Thursday . The first meeting under new arrangement look place on Tuesday , 4 th February 1879 .

Hor . r . owAv ' s I ' II . LS A-XH Oi ,-,-r .-. ii : xr . —IHIIUOIUM . Coinjhs . and Cold- —lit discn .- 'ios oi ' tlir rlii-iiiit : nnl L-liost , so prevalent , in our chiui ; , 'eal , hM-litnatc notliin ' " so speedily relieves , or so certainly cures , us these inr .-ritiiiui . lilc remedies These disorders are too oltcri neglected at , their commencement , or : irr in juiiieiou-ilv treated , resulting- m ciihur fuse in disastrous consequences . Whatever the condition ol tlie patient , Hollnwiiy ' s remedies will restore , if i-n-. iv .-rv he

possible ; they will retard the alanniie , ' symptoms till the lilood is niii-itied anil nature consummates the cure , gradually restoring strum : ; li and vital nervous power . Hy p . TSKvei-inir m the use of Hollowny ' s pn-parat . ioiis , lone is roni ' crrcd on the stomach anil Inline , generally . Tlmiisnnrlfi of persons have testified I Ii-il » , y Hit- use of i hese reroodies alone ( hey have IJCOU restored to health after every i . thev means had tailed , «"" , >

Q: And The Dunckerley Question, Once More.

Q : AND THE DUNCKERLEY QUESTION , ONCE MORE .

BY BRO . JACOB NORTON .

r WAS pleased with Bro . Q . s Fraternal style of discussion , but can . not say aa much about bis arguments . Ilis letter of 2 Stb Decern - ber contains no new facts ; it is bnt tlie old over again ; be proves tbat it is only an opinion of Bro . Norton ; and what then ? The adago says , " it takes a wise child to know its own father , " how then can any one know whose son Dnnckerloy was ? Again , he gives a gentlo hit at my admission that my opinion was changed . Again , I

ask , Whafc then ? I shall name ( privately ) several distinguished brethren who were astonished at my boldness in qnostioning the truth of tho Masonic Dunckerley version ; bnt when I communicated the facts and tbe arguments ns printed in my communication of 7 th December , their opinions were also changed . One of those brethren , after he heard what I had to say , remarked , " It seems to

me , now , that Dnnckerley was neither tho son of Mr . Dunckerley nor of tho Frinco of Wale 3 . " The stunning argument of Bro . Q . is based npou the fact , that Cleorgo the 3 rd ( who , by tho bye , ( . ) ,. admits was not over intellectually bright ) must have bolieved in Dunckerley ' s story , otherwise he would nob havo given £ 800 per annum , and as tbe Masonic

Magazine mentions a Lord II . and a Mr . W ., which according to Q . probably meant Lord Harconrfc and Mr . Worsley , whom ho believes to have been par . igons of wisdom and virtue , and as there wero then " giants in tho land ; " therefore , the Masonic Magazine onght to be believed . But , in tho first place , assuming that H . and W . meant Harcourt

and Worstoy , and that they were giants m wisdom and virtue . And they themselves had signed a certificate of their belief in tho Dnnckorley narrative , then , I would be bound to believe thoir opinion . Here , however , we have only Dunckerley ' s testimony that they said so , or wrote so , and for obvious reasous I cannot accept his nnsnpported testimony . With regard to the judgment of George 3 rd , before I go further , I must relate an anecdote .

James the 2 nd showed Waller , the poet , the picture gallery in his palace ; the king observed that Waller took especial notice of the picture of Queen Elizaboth , and in tho course of conversation he asked Waller for his opinion of Elizabeth ; the poet expressed himselfin high terms of ber ability , & c . " OU ! " said the king , " tho wise measures of her government wero not due to her wisdom , but to the

wisdom of her ministers . " " Sire , replied Waller , " that is true , but it is only a wiso sovereign who knows how to choose wise ministers . " Thero worn undoubtedly in the early years of Georgo 3 rd ' s reign good men , wiso men , intellectual men in Eugland , who may bo called " giants , " but there were also thoro at the same timo giants of

selfishness , of corruption , and of meanness , and Georgo 3 rd , who was not eudowetl with the intollect of an Elizabeth , unfortunately chose his confidants and his favourites from the latter class of giants . Take a glance at all bis ministers up to tbe time of the French Revolution , or oven after , and we ivill not find a solitary man who combined iu himsolf intollect , honesty , and independence , who could maintain

himself for any length of timo in tho king's confidence . Tho Eockiugbaui ministry , which was really composed of good and honest liberal-niiiided men , was turned adrift by our King George , for no other reason but because they wore honest aud patriotic men . Lord Camden , who was another good man , was treated by the other appointees of King Georgo with such contempt , that he was induced

to keep away from the Cabinofc meetiugs during tho discussions about , tho Wilks' troublos and the American tronbles , and afc lasfc he conld endure ifc no longer , aud spoke out boldly in the Houso of Lords , when , of course , he was dismissed . After many solicitations , the Earl of Chatham consented to hold office ; for somo reason or other , ho did not improve matters . Tho history of that period , is a history of

imbecility aud corruption ; both inside and outside of parliament ; tho mean , the crafty , and tho selfish , found favour in the eyes of tho king . Wholesalo corruption was carried ou in parliament , and iu government offices ; but as the tools of his despotism reaped bonefit therefrom , the king approved of ifc . During the administration of Pill , ( tho younger ) an inquiry was called for in the Houso of

Commons to the corruptions going on iu the Post-office , that pensions were exacted from Posfc-olliee appointees by the rest-Master Geueral ' s friivul . Pitt did not dispute tho fact—indeed , tho facts were admitted , but inquiry was quashed by tho king ' s hired majority in the Honse of Commons . His Majesty imagined himself a kind of a divinity , and ho exacted divine worship from his devotees , or in other

words the king's favour was confined only to thoso who could flatter his conceits aud prejudices . Under those circumstauues , I real ty can seo no reason for disbelieving that ono of these court lick-spittles may have been hired by Dunckerley to obtain for him £ 800 per annum . Surely , if tho king ' s Postmaster-General could take bribes , why could not au otlicial in flic palace do the same ?

" That a , foremost Mason , " says Bro . Q ., " should have been noticed iu his lifetime , anil after death in a Masonic Magazine , is only in the order of things- , hut how came it that his death and some particulars uf hiy career slum Id have been mado the . subject of an article in the Gentleman ' s [ Magazine ] ?" The object of my opponent in asking tho above miestion I cannot

divitie , but without further circumlocution I will endeavour to answer him , vi /„ , at tho end of each monthly Number of the Gentleman's Magazine some pages are devoted to obituary notices of prominent persons of both scxe . ; who died during tho preceding month , the notices arc generally brief , consisting of a few lines ; bat thero nre also longer notices , covering sometimes a whole column or moro . In thoso editorials the editor usually exercised what is called " Christian charity ; " that is , the frailties and faults of the deceased , wore omitted or glossed over , and his virtues prominently brought

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Grand Lodge Of Massachusetts.

ducted him to his seat in the Lodge , when the result of the flection was declared and acknowledged . Bro . Solon W . Stevens was elected Grand Senior Warden by 417 votes out of 432 , and Bro . Henry G . Fay Grand Junior Warden by 280 out of 289 . Grand Lodge continued the

appointments made by the Grand Master as regards the offices of Treasurer and Recording Secretary , and proceeded to the election of the other Officers . By-Laws , for approval , Avere presented from several Lodges , eonimuniotions read , and other matters of local interest disposed of ; after which

Grand Lodge was closed until the 27 th December , when tho usual Installation meeting was held and the Feast of St . John celebrated . The Appendix contains reports of

D . D . G . Masters , abstracts of returns of Lodges , Lodges in Masonic Districts , List of Lodges and Secretaries , Past Officers and Permanent Members , and Organization of the Grand Lodge for 1879 .

The Schismatical Grand Lodge Of New South Wales.

THE SCHISMATICAL GRAND LODGE OF NEW SOUTH WALES .

SHORT time since wc wrote an article on this - £ * - mushroom Grand Lodge of Freemasons latel y declared to have been established in New South Wales b y dissentient brethren of the Constitutions alread y working under regular Governments in that Colony . A . late nnmber of the AnalmUtin , Frcrwaxtm contains abundant

information , fully corroborating the views we have stated , nnd justifying our condemnation of those who had set up this schismatic Grand Lodge . We learn from our contemporary that while the representative Grand Lodges of England , Scotland , and Ireland have , or had , on their roll

forty-two , twenty-three , and six Lodges respectively ; even the supporters of the schismatic Grand Lodge only claim for it some twelve or sixteen Lodges , ami that while the former muster among them several thousand brethren , the latter arc about two hundred , or , at all events , within three

hnndred strong . Three of the Irish Lodges havo seceded , oi rather two , for the Master of one of the three remains loyal , and still retains the warrant granted hy his Grand Lodge . The Grand Lodge of England has refused to recognise the self-constituted schismatic bnd y , I hid , of Scotland has suspended the ringlcfidcrs of I he movement and the

contumacious , while that of Ireland has called upon the dissentient Lodges and members to pay their dues , which have remained unpaid for years . Notwithstanding these facts , which they are challenged Io contradict , if they can , the schismatics have impudently declared themselves to be a

majority ot the Ircecnmons in the Colony . But though thoy have applied for recognition to several of the Grand Lodges of the United States , they have been courteousl y but firml y cold-shouldered . They have shifted an organ of their own , which is distinguished by its scurrilous abuse

of Dr . Sedgwick , Prov . G . Master Scottish Constitution and other leading members of ( lie legally-constituted brotherhood . But one other matter remains to be recorded , which is about as astounding a piece of impudence as wo have overheard of . It is announced from Tarbolton—so says

our contemporary—that " the Grand Lodgo of New South Wales having been duly erected , the functions of the various Provincial Grand Lodges hitherto existing have ceased ; and as Brothers Sedgwick and Higstrini " ( P . G . M . aud P . G

Secretary respectively , under the Scottish Constitutions ) " are not Officers of the Grand Lodge , they have no Masonic authorit y whatever iu New South Wales . " Let these mushroom schismatics bear in mind the fate of tho frog in the fable , which tried to swell itself to the dimensions of an ox , and—burst .

A Grand Chapter lor Holy Royal Arch Chapter and Mark Masons will shortly he inaugurated for Jamaica . The ordinary meetings of the Pluenix Lodge , Port Royal , Jamaica , are now held on the first Tuesday of each mouth ' instead of the first Thursday . The first meeting under new arrangement look place on Tuesday , 4 th February 1879 .

Hor . r . owAv ' s I ' II . LS A-XH Oi ,-,-r .-. ii : xr . —IHIIUOIUM . Coinjhs . and Cold- —lit discn .- 'ios oi ' tlir rlii-iiiit : nnl L-liost , so prevalent , in our chiui ; , 'eal , hM-litnatc notliin ' " so speedily relieves , or so certainly cures , us these inr .-ritiiiui . lilc remedies These disorders are too oltcri neglected at , their commencement , or : irr in juiiieiou-ilv treated , resulting- m ciihur fuse in disastrous consequences . Whatever the condition ol tlie patient , Hollnwiiy ' s remedies will restore , if i-n-. iv .-rv he

possible ; they will retard the alanniie , ' symptoms till the lilood is niii-itied anil nature consummates the cure , gradually restoring strum : ; li and vital nervous power . Hy p . TSKvei-inir m the use of Hollowny ' s pn-parat . ioiis , lone is roni ' crrcd on the stomach anil Inline , generally . Tlmiisnnrlfi of persons have testified I Ii-il » , y Hit- use of i hese reroodies alone ( hey have IJCOU restored to health after every i . thev means had tailed , «"" , >

Q: And The Dunckerley Question, Once More.

Q : AND THE DUNCKERLEY QUESTION , ONCE MORE .

BY BRO . JACOB NORTON .

r WAS pleased with Bro . Q . s Fraternal style of discussion , but can . not say aa much about bis arguments . Ilis letter of 2 Stb Decern - ber contains no new facts ; it is bnt tlie old over again ; be proves tbat it is only an opinion of Bro . Norton ; and what then ? The adago says , " it takes a wise child to know its own father , " how then can any one know whose son Dnnckerloy was ? Again , he gives a gentlo hit at my admission that my opinion was changed . Again , I

ask , Whafc then ? I shall name ( privately ) several distinguished brethren who were astonished at my boldness in qnostioning the truth of tho Masonic Dunckerley version ; bnt when I communicated the facts and tbe arguments ns printed in my communication of 7 th December , their opinions were also changed . One of those brethren , after he heard what I had to say , remarked , " It seems to

me , now , that Dnnckerley was neither tho son of Mr . Dunckerley nor of tho Frinco of Wale 3 . " The stunning argument of Bro . Q . is based npou the fact , that Cleorgo the 3 rd ( who , by tho bye , ( . ) ,. admits was not over intellectually bright ) must have bolieved in Dunckerley ' s story , otherwise he would nob havo given £ 800 per annum , and as tbe Masonic

Magazine mentions a Lord II . and a Mr . W ., which according to Q . probably meant Lord Harconrfc and Mr . Worsley , whom ho believes to have been par . igons of wisdom and virtue , and as there wero then " giants in tho land ; " therefore , the Masonic Magazine onght to be believed . But , in tho first place , assuming that H . and W . meant Harcourt

and Worstoy , and that they were giants m wisdom and virtue . And they themselves had signed a certificate of their belief in tho Dnnckorley narrative , then , I would be bound to believe thoir opinion . Here , however , we have only Dunckerley ' s testimony that they said so , or wrote so , and for obvious reasous I cannot accept his nnsnpported testimony . With regard to the judgment of George 3 rd , before I go further , I must relate an anecdote .

James the 2 nd showed Waller , the poet , the picture gallery in his palace ; the king observed that Waller took especial notice of the picture of Queen Elizaboth , and in tho course of conversation he asked Waller for his opinion of Elizabeth ; the poet expressed himselfin high terms of ber ability , & c . " OU ! " said the king , " tho wise measures of her government wero not due to her wisdom , but to the

wisdom of her ministers . " " Sire , replied Waller , " that is true , but it is only a wiso sovereign who knows how to choose wise ministers . " Thero worn undoubtedly in the early years of Georgo 3 rd ' s reign good men , wiso men , intellectual men in Eugland , who may bo called " giants , " but there were also thoro at the same timo giants of

selfishness , of corruption , and of meanness , and Georgo 3 rd , who was not eudowetl with the intollect of an Elizabeth , unfortunately chose his confidants and his favourites from the latter class of giants . Take a glance at all bis ministers up to tbe time of the French Revolution , or oven after , and we ivill not find a solitary man who combined iu himsolf intollect , honesty , and independence , who could maintain

himself for any length of timo in tho king's confidence . Tho Eockiugbaui ministry , which was really composed of good and honest liberal-niiiided men , was turned adrift by our King George , for no other reason but because they wore honest aud patriotic men . Lord Camden , who was another good man , was treated by the other appointees of King Georgo with such contempt , that he was induced

to keep away from the Cabinofc meetiugs during tho discussions about , tho Wilks' troublos and the American tronbles , and afc lasfc he conld endure ifc no longer , aud spoke out boldly in the Houso of Lords , when , of course , he was dismissed . After many solicitations , the Earl of Chatham consented to hold office ; for somo reason or other , ho did not improve matters . Tho history of that period , is a history of

imbecility aud corruption ; both inside and outside of parliament ; tho mean , the crafty , and tho selfish , found favour in the eyes of tho king . Wholesalo corruption was carried ou in parliament , and iu government offices ; but as the tools of his despotism reaped bonefit therefrom , the king approved of ifc . During the administration of Pill , ( tho younger ) an inquiry was called for in the Houso of

Commons to the corruptions going on iu the Post-office , that pensions were exacted from Posfc-olliee appointees by the rest-Master Geueral ' s friivul . Pitt did not dispute tho fact—indeed , tho facts were admitted , but inquiry was quashed by tho king ' s hired majority in the Honse of Commons . His Majesty imagined himself a kind of a divinity , and ho exacted divine worship from his devotees , or in other

words the king's favour was confined only to thoso who could flatter his conceits aud prejudices . Under those circumstauues , I real ty can seo no reason for disbelieving that ono of these court lick-spittles may have been hired by Dunckerley to obtain for him £ 800 per annum . Surely , if tho king ' s Postmaster-General could take bribes , why could not au otlicial in flic palace do the same ?

" That a , foremost Mason , " says Bro . Q ., " should have been noticed iu his lifetime , anil after death in a Masonic Magazine , is only in the order of things- , hut how came it that his death and some particulars uf hiy career slum Id have been mado the . subject of an article in the Gentleman ' s [ Magazine ] ?" The object of my opponent in asking tho above miestion I cannot

divitie , but without further circumlocution I will endeavour to answer him , vi /„ , at tho end of each monthly Number of the Gentleman's Magazine some pages are devoted to obituary notices of prominent persons of both scxe . ; who died during tho preceding month , the notices arc generally brief , consisting of a few lines ; bat thero nre also longer notices , covering sometimes a whole column or moro . In thoso editorials the editor usually exercised what is called " Christian charity ; " that is , the frailties and faults of the deceased , wore omitted or glossed over , and his virtues prominently brought

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