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House Of Commons.
higher , and a little hi gher .. Their barg . iin , however , was concluded on the 250 of April ; and yet it was not till the 3 d of May that the Order of Council made its appearance , nor till the Sth , that the estimates were laid before the House . Would the House stand quietly by , and see the Nation ruined by such grossneglect and incapacity ? How should the Sailors understand the Minister ' s meaning , when it was often misunderstood even by that House ? fVednesdayw . Mr . Whitbread shewed the tardiness with which Ministers had proceeded to
apply for the sanction of Parliament to the claims of the seamen . Though the concession was made to them on the 23 d of April , the final Order of Council , was noi passed till the 3 d of May . For this delay the Minister found an excuse by referring to forms ; but such an excuse was gross and contemptible from a man , who , when any abridgment of national liberty was in question , trod under foot all-the forms of the House , and all the restrictions of tbe constitution . After severa l other observations equally severe , and after expressing a hope , that the cause of our present calamity would some day or other be minutely investigated , and Ministers , if found guiltv , be brought to condign punishment , Mr . Whit bread concluded bv moving , ( That the Right Honourable William Pitt , in having so long delayed to _ present to this House an estimate of the e . vpences to incurred
ne by the proposed increase of the pay of seamen , and by ordering them a full allowance of provisions , had been guilty of gross neglect of duty , and deserved the censure of the House . ' He afterwards amended his motion by inserting his Majestv ' s Ministers' in the room of ' William Pitt . ' Mr . Pitt said , that lie did not shrink from a share of the blame . The true question was , whether Ministers had reason to think extraordinary haste necessary . He then shewed the way in which they had forwarded the business through its successive stages ; asserted , that among many causes of the lale calamities ,
were gross misrepresentations , some of them stating that the seamens claims had been rejected ; and expressed his confidence that no wilful remissness at least would be imputed to the Members of Administration , since it ivas evident that their interest and their duty were , in the present case , too closely connected to admit of negligence . Mr . Fox , Mr . Cunt-en , Mr . Martin , and Lord George Cavendish , spoke for the motion ; Sir W . Geary , Mr . Rose , jun . Mr . York , and Mr . Dundas , against it . After which the House divided— -For . Mr . Whilbread ' s Motion , Ayes 63—Against it , Noes 237 .
Monday 15 . Mr . Wiiberforce said , that if he could but bring the House to a sense of their duty towards God and man , he should accomplish his purpose . It had been granted , that the slave trade was contrary to humanity and justice , and yet was its abolition resisted . Alluding to the critical state of public affairs , he said , that all who believed in a moral Providence must see that our perversencss in a horrid trade , only consistent with practical atheism , had provoked the divine vengeance , which appeared to have given us up to the effect of our own pervcrs * principlesHe concluded tor leave to in Bill for
. , by moving bring a abolishing the Slave Trade , at a time to be limited ; and that the House should then form itself jiuo a Committee , to take that motion Into consideration . The molion was opposed by Mr . Ellis , Mr . Edwards , Mr . Sewel , and Col . Gascoigne . It was supported b y Messrs . Pitt , Smith , Hobhouse , and Martin . Afterwhich the House divided . Ayes 74—Noes 82 . Tuesday 16 MrGrey declaredthat though in point of form his motion iva
. . , « chiefly directed against the Chancellor of the Exchequer , he nevertheless held all his Majesty'sMinisters to be equally amenable for the mischiefs that had happened . They were the result of a most calamitous system , which had been pursued with unvarying malevolence through the whole of the present reign ; which had lost us America , led us into a war with France , and would probably occasion the loss of Ireland also . He then proceeded to move a series of resolution ? , founded upon . the report , of the Secret Committee . The three principle ones imported , that
notwithstanding the remonstrances of the Bank against the demands made by Government , those demand * had been persevered in and repeated ; that similar remonstrances had been made with no belter efti-ct against loans , or other advances to the Emperor ; and that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had therein been guilty of a high crime and misdemeanour , and deserved the censure of the House . {[ TO BE aECl'AAIiXV COSIINVED . ^
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House Of Commons.
higher , and a little hi gher .. Their barg . iin , however , was concluded on the 250 of April ; and yet it was not till the 3 d of May that the Order of Council made its appearance , nor till the Sth , that the estimates were laid before the House . Would the House stand quietly by , and see the Nation ruined by such grossneglect and incapacity ? How should the Sailors understand the Minister ' s meaning , when it was often misunderstood even by that House ? fVednesdayw . Mr . Whitbread shewed the tardiness with which Ministers had proceeded to
apply for the sanction of Parliament to the claims of the seamen . Though the concession was made to them on the 23 d of April , the final Order of Council , was noi passed till the 3 d of May . For this delay the Minister found an excuse by referring to forms ; but such an excuse was gross and contemptible from a man , who , when any abridgment of national liberty was in question , trod under foot all-the forms of the House , and all the restrictions of tbe constitution . After severa l other observations equally severe , and after expressing a hope , that the cause of our present calamity would some day or other be minutely investigated , and Ministers , if found guiltv , be brought to condign punishment , Mr . Whit bread concluded bv moving , ( That the Right Honourable William Pitt , in having so long delayed to _ present to this House an estimate of the e . vpences to incurred
ne by the proposed increase of the pay of seamen , and by ordering them a full allowance of provisions , had been guilty of gross neglect of duty , and deserved the censure of the House . ' He afterwards amended his motion by inserting his Majestv ' s Ministers' in the room of ' William Pitt . ' Mr . Pitt said , that lie did not shrink from a share of the blame . The true question was , whether Ministers had reason to think extraordinary haste necessary . He then shewed the way in which they had forwarded the business through its successive stages ; asserted , that among many causes of the lale calamities ,
were gross misrepresentations , some of them stating that the seamens claims had been rejected ; and expressed his confidence that no wilful remissness at least would be imputed to the Members of Administration , since it ivas evident that their interest and their duty were , in the present case , too closely connected to admit of negligence . Mr . Fox , Mr . Cunt-en , Mr . Martin , and Lord George Cavendish , spoke for the motion ; Sir W . Geary , Mr . Rose , jun . Mr . York , and Mr . Dundas , against it . After which the House divided— -For . Mr . Whilbread ' s Motion , Ayes 63—Against it , Noes 237 .
Monday 15 . Mr . Wiiberforce said , that if he could but bring the House to a sense of their duty towards God and man , he should accomplish his purpose . It had been granted , that the slave trade was contrary to humanity and justice , and yet was its abolition resisted . Alluding to the critical state of public affairs , he said , that all who believed in a moral Providence must see that our perversencss in a horrid trade , only consistent with practical atheism , had provoked the divine vengeance , which appeared to have given us up to the effect of our own pervcrs * principlesHe concluded tor leave to in Bill for
. , by moving bring a abolishing the Slave Trade , at a time to be limited ; and that the House should then form itself jiuo a Committee , to take that motion Into consideration . The molion was opposed by Mr . Ellis , Mr . Edwards , Mr . Sewel , and Col . Gascoigne . It was supported b y Messrs . Pitt , Smith , Hobhouse , and Martin . Afterwhich the House divided . Ayes 74—Noes 82 . Tuesday 16 MrGrey declaredthat though in point of form his motion iva
. . , « chiefly directed against the Chancellor of the Exchequer , he nevertheless held all his Majesty'sMinisters to be equally amenable for the mischiefs that had happened . They were the result of a most calamitous system , which had been pursued with unvarying malevolence through the whole of the present reign ; which had lost us America , led us into a war with France , and would probably occasion the loss of Ireland also . He then proceeded to move a series of resolution ? , founded upon . the report , of the Secret Committee . The three principle ones imported , that
notwithstanding the remonstrances of the Bank against the demands made by Government , those demand * had been persevered in and repeated ; that similar remonstrances had been made with no belter efti-ct against loans , or other advances to the Emperor ; and that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had therein been guilty of a high crime and misdemeanour , and deserved the censure of the House . {[ TO BE aECl'AAIiXV COSIINVED . ^