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Article BROTHER J. LEE STEVENS. ← Page 11 of 23 →
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Brother J. Lee Stevens.
Cross-examined by Brother Phillipe . Brother PHILLIPE . —AVhen the words ' soft sawder' were used , was any body spoken of ? Brother AVHITMORE . —No person was spoken ofj but the resolution . Brother ROWE examined . —You used the words , but not with respect to His Royal Highness the Most Worshipful Grand Master . It was in allusion to Brother Bell wanting to improve or amend a resolution . Brother STEVENS . —Did I oppose the alteration ?
Brother ROWE . —Certainly not . You said , " Do as you please with it , only don't let us have any soft sawder . " Re-examined by Brother Jennings . —Was the term ' Sam Slick' used ? Brother ROWE . —Yes ; but certainly not by Brother Stevens . Brother BELL , examined by Brother Stevens . —Did I use these expressions in the way in which they are stated ? Brother BELL . —Certainly not . Ifnsed with respect to any person , it certainly must have been myself But I don't think it was intended to be used towards any person at all .
Re-exammed by Brother Jennings . —Was the term ' Sam Slick' used ? Brother BELL . — Certainly it was , by Brother Stevens . The term was used in a little badinage between Brother Stevens and me . The whole affair occurred in this way . I said to Brother Stevens , Yon see how liable wc are to misrepresentations ; are you wedded to particular terms for your resolution ? Then I had not seen the written terms of the resolution . He said certainly not . I said , I am anxious not to be misrepresented in what we do here , or * misunderstood . Brother Stevens looked over his shoulder as he spoke . He
was walking away towards the fire-place . By Brother Phillipe . —Was the tone of Brother Stevens discourteous ? Brother BELL . —Certainly not . Brother BLOOMFIELD . — ' Soft sawder' was particularly directed to Brother Bell . I cannot form an idea of what Brother Bell thought of it . There was little difference in the resolutions ; and the expressions were -used more as small talk than any thing else . It might have had reference to those who were not friendly to the society . Did you hear the words ' Sam Slick' used ? Brother BLOOMFIELD . —Yes ; by Brother Stevens and several other persons at the snine time .
Brother TURNER , cross-examined by the Complainants , gave the following evidence . Com . —Did you hear Brother Stevens move the resolution about forwarding the resolution to the Grand Master ? Brother TURNER . —I do not recollect the terms ; it was merely a simple resolution that the proceedings should be forwarded to the Grand Master ; moved at a time when several of the Brethren had got up to leave the room . Brother Stevens commenced by observing , as on previous occasions we had
been in the habit of having the proceedings referred to the Grand Master , he wdshed to have communicated the result of the present proceedings ; and lie thought it would be only respectful to His Royal Highness to do so on the present occasion . Com . —Was it carried ? Brother TURNER . —It was about to be put , when Brother Bell wished that tbe resolution—as our proceedings had been liable to misconceptionshould be couched in terms that could not be misunderstood . Brother
Stevens said , " Well , well , do as you please , I have no objection . " Com . —AVas the term ' soft sawder' used ? Brother TURNER . —Yes , by Brother Stevens , in this way ; after the conversation about the resolutions , Brotlier Bell wished his resolution to be put , and Brother Stevens said , " Now , my dear fellow , don't let ' s have any soft sawder . "
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Brother J. Lee Stevens.
Cross-examined by Brother Phillipe . Brother PHILLIPE . —AVhen the words ' soft sawder' were used , was any body spoken of ? Brother AVHITMORE . —No person was spoken ofj but the resolution . Brother ROWE examined . —You used the words , but not with respect to His Royal Highness the Most Worshipful Grand Master . It was in allusion to Brother Bell wanting to improve or amend a resolution . Brother STEVENS . —Did I oppose the alteration ?
Brother ROWE . —Certainly not . You said , " Do as you please with it , only don't let us have any soft sawder . " Re-examined by Brother Jennings . —Was the term ' Sam Slick' used ? Brother ROWE . —Yes ; but certainly not by Brother Stevens . Brother BELL , examined by Brother Stevens . —Did I use these expressions in the way in which they are stated ? Brother BELL . —Certainly not . Ifnsed with respect to any person , it certainly must have been myself But I don't think it was intended to be used towards any person at all .
Re-exammed by Brother Jennings . —Was the term ' Sam Slick' used ? Brother BELL . — Certainly it was , by Brother Stevens . The term was used in a little badinage between Brother Stevens and me . The whole affair occurred in this way . I said to Brother Stevens , Yon see how liable wc are to misrepresentations ; are you wedded to particular terms for your resolution ? Then I had not seen the written terms of the resolution . He said certainly not . I said , I am anxious not to be misrepresented in what we do here , or * misunderstood . Brother Stevens looked over his shoulder as he spoke . He
was walking away towards the fire-place . By Brother Phillipe . —Was the tone of Brother Stevens discourteous ? Brother BELL . —Certainly not . Brother BLOOMFIELD . — ' Soft sawder' was particularly directed to Brother Bell . I cannot form an idea of what Brother Bell thought of it . There was little difference in the resolutions ; and the expressions were -used more as small talk than any thing else . It might have had reference to those who were not friendly to the society . Did you hear the words ' Sam Slick' used ? Brother BLOOMFIELD . —Yes ; by Brother Stevens and several other persons at the snine time .
Brother TURNER , cross-examined by the Complainants , gave the following evidence . Com . —Did you hear Brother Stevens move the resolution about forwarding the resolution to the Grand Master ? Brother TURNER . —I do not recollect the terms ; it was merely a simple resolution that the proceedings should be forwarded to the Grand Master ; moved at a time when several of the Brethren had got up to leave the room . Brother Stevens commenced by observing , as on previous occasions we had
been in the habit of having the proceedings referred to the Grand Master , he wdshed to have communicated the result of the present proceedings ; and lie thought it would be only respectful to His Royal Highness to do so on the present occasion . Com . —Was it carried ? Brother TURNER . —It was about to be put , when Brother Bell wished that tbe resolution—as our proceedings had been liable to misconceptionshould be couched in terms that could not be misunderstood . Brother
Stevens said , " Well , well , do as you please , I have no objection . " Com . —AVas the term ' soft sawder' used ? Brother TURNER . —Yes , by Brother Stevens , in this way ; after the conversation about the resolutions , Brotlier Bell wished his resolution to be put , and Brother Stevens said , " Now , my dear fellow , don't let ' s have any soft sawder . "